why the gum?

S07E10 The GumretroJan 14, 2002, 3:21 PM ET6 years later9 posts by 6 posters
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Fans discuss why George buys gum from a street vendor despite claiming he doesn't chew gum, debating whether he was lying to Lloyd Braun or if the scene logic is inconsistent.

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Rich Forman

This has probably been brought up before....I imagine everything has...but anyway, in last night's Fox 5 episode, one of my many favorites, the one about Lloyd Braun reviving the old Palace movie theatre, early on George refuses Lloyd's offer of a stick of chinese gum explaining that he doesn't chew gum. Later, he buys some gum from the equistrine cashier; it makes sense, because he just needs to buy something to get her to open the cash register. But still later in the episode he stops in the street and again buys gum from Larry David. Makes little sense - he's already said, and verified later, that he doesn't chew gum. Why is he suddenly stop to buy some? I don't think there's a legitimate answer (for instance, I don't think that he was lying when he first states that he's a non gum chewer, if that's what you were going to suggest); it just doesn't make sense.

richforman

John TwernboldRich Forman

This was only said to Lloyd Braun, however. Remember, he once faked an injuryy and even went to a doctor to avoid being caught in a lie told to his nemesis, Lloyd.

My guess is that he initially refused the gum from Lloyd out of dislike for the guy (and possibly distrust of gum "from China"), and then explained it with the lie that he never chews gum. Later, he doesn't really want to buy gum--he just wants Ruthie to open the cash register--but does so out of need. Then he lies about it to Lloyd to avoid getting caught in the earlier lie.

At the end, he really does want gum, and buys it from the stand.

Why not? Is it so hard to accept the idea of George lying? ;-)

John Twernbold jtwernbold (at) yahoo.com
Rich FormanJohn Twernbold

"John Twernbold" wrote in message news:...

Nah, of course not, it just didn't seem like it in that particular case. He said it so matter of factly and didn't look/sound like he was in lying mode, and I'm not sure what the motivation for the lie would have been at that point - I see what you're saying, just didn't read the scene that way as it played. Oh well, guess we'll never know.

Funny, I hadn't looked in on this newsgroup in a long time, I'd say a couple years, 'til yesterday, and some of the same lists and discussions are still going on - threads listing all movie titles mentioned in the series were around years ago!

richforman

John TwernboldRich Forman

"It's not a lie if you believe it." ;-)

I know what you mean, though--if George really was lying (especially when he's confronted by Lloyd Braun while trying to get Ruthie to open the cash register), Jason Alexander should've made it more clear. As you say, he played it too matter-of-factly.

Speaking of George's mendacity, I love Jerry's line in The Secret Code: "Come on--weave your web, liar man."

John Twernbold jtwernbold (at) yahoo.com
gordonJohn Twernbold

"John Twernbold" wrote in news:CnX08.217350$[email]:

Hello, just a thought but if he really didn`t like gum then why would he choose to buy gum to get change? Surely he would have been better off buying tic-tacs, or some pez or something? :)

Gordon

gordongordon

it was definitely a lie.. 913 - The Cartoon. George LOVES gum with the she- jerry. :)

Gordon

EastCoastGuyzRich Forman

Rich Forman wrote:

I took the reason that George said he didn't chew gum the first time, was because he didn't like Lloyd Braun. I remember that others at the table in the diner encouraged by Kramer, were pretending to be nice to the guy because Lloyd had a recent history of mental health problems. It came across to me that George didn't mind seeing Lloyd pushed a little, cause of how much he was jealous of him. It's not about if he likes gum or not, it is about that it may give some comfort to Lloyd if he accepts it.

As for George chewing gum, I think he is when he enters Jerry's apartment with his new rug on.

East

OzmodiarEastCoastGuyz
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to Lloyd if he accepts it.

his new rug on.

George quite deliberately puts a stick of gum in his mouth while trying to impress Anna in [The Little Kicks]

Mark MellinOzmodiar

In article , "Ozmodiar" wrote:

some comfort

apartment with

to impress

Gum also becomes the basis for his relationship with the she-Jerry:

Janet: I like gum.

George: I do too. you see that's what we're about . You don't remind me of anyone and we love gum.

  • Mark "I have gum in my hair." Mellin
Mark Mellin Precita Valley, CA USA 94110-5206