The Contest is overrated

S04E11 The ContestretroAug 6, 1993, 9:17 AM ET9 months later8 posts by 7 posters
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Mark L Rodini

I find it interesting that in "Favorite Episode" polls, "The Contest" always comes out by-far the winner. Does everyone really find this episode that much funnier than others, or do people find the fact that they take on such a "controversial" topic in an entirely implied way to be what makes it funny? Make no mistake, I think it is a hysterically and brilliantly crafted episode, with some classic criss-crossing of plot. But if I were to pick my favorite episode based purely on how much and how often I laugh, I wouldn't select "The Contest". Rather, I'd choose, say "The Pen".

To quote Chris Gabel's post:

Quite so. Humor based on "shock" value, as in the plot of "The Contest", only goes so far. (Sort of like, to make a VERY crude comparisson, how stand-up comedy alla Eddie Murphy, based solely on profanity and vulgarity, gets very old very fast.) Indeed, it's the back and forth bantering, repetition ("Snapple?"...."Snapple?" -from, ironically, "The Contest" when first Jerry, then Elaine offer the Virgin a Snapple.), and the criss-cross of "nothing" plots that makes the show funny. That's precisely what make a "show about nothing" work.

Once they try to add too much plot, the show fails (relatively). Frankly, I really didn't care for the episodes of last season in which J & G were trying to come up with a sitcom, which came to its disappointing climax at the season finale. They tried too hard to force a PLOT about a show about nothing, rather than actually making a show about nothing, highlighting their bantering.

Sure, their plots are far more creative and funny than the vast majority of other shows, but face it, it's the bantering...the Bantering, people...it's the BANTERING.

Opinions?

Mark

David SilverMark L Rodini

In [email] (Mark L Rodini) writes:

Shoudn't that be "It's the bantering, stupid!"?

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Rob Shearman Jr.David Silver

In article , David Silver wrote:

"Bantering, Jerry, *bantering*!!"

-Me

Matthew K. NordhausRob Shearman Jr.

# wrote: #Shoudn't that be "It's the bantering, stupid!"?

* "Bantering, Jerry, *bantering*!!" * * -Me

I think it's the Bantering.

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CRGABELMark L Rodini

In article [email] (Mark L Rodini) writes:

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I think you've hit the nail right on the head.... I like "the Contest" but I must agree that it shouldn't have such a stronghold on the "favorite episodes" list. I particularly agree with your point "when they tried to put a plot into the shows, it gets duller" (paraphrasing) I thought the season finale was somewhat disappointing as well. I was left with the feeling that there was a few scenes editted out or something.

I second Mark's motion. BANTER, BANTER, BANTER!!!!

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Roy EassaCRGABEL

[email] writes:

I also agree. I am sometimes amazed to find that certain repeats, such as last week's (the one with George's double-dipping and the silicone implants mystery) and the "second spitter" episode, are incredibly funny, fast-paced, and enjoyable the second time around. Knowing "the ending" doesn't spoil the fun at all -- it's the dozens of little details, banter, quips, gestures, etc., that make these great episodes.

I've watched a lot of TV in my day, and this is the only show I enjoy 100% as much in reruns as in originals. That's saying a lot.

David SchragRoy Eassa

Roy Eassa ([email]) wrote:

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Funny, but I LOVE Seinfeld originals and don't care that much for the reruns. That was *especially* true for The Contest, which had me literally on the floor the first time around, and merely smiling as a rerun.

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CRGABELMark L Rodini

One other thing I forgot to add...

I think the reason "the Contest" is so overrated (Please do not confuse this description with "bad") is the same reason Kramer is so overrated. EVERY character on Seinfeld is hilarious in their own way, but Kramer is so over-the-top that he stands out over the rest of the characters. Sort of like the "shock value" aspect of "the Contest".

-Chris