B&B-H vs South Park/Simpsons

Nov 27, 19979 posts by 8 postersalt.tv.beavis-n-butthead
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I think that the reason Iike B&Bbetter,is that they don't ever take themsevles too seriously.If you look at SP,and S,esp.when the latter,had these animal;rights things with The McCartneys,and soon,it got too complex.

B&B is just fun.HUHUHUH.Not politics,or anything.

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Almost always. Remember the episode where they get electrocuted while flying a kite. The consumer advocate lady tried to pin it on them watching music videos, when they really got the idea from a documentary on Ben Franklin.

I thought that was great comeback against the critics of the show.

No politics?Remember Fire fire fire?How about the wild raw shows in the beginning licking toads to trip,beavis smoking,sniffing paint thinner and painting up that dudes cat and house?Its more pollitically correct nowadays.BnB would kick ass on comedy central or specials on a real cable channel.Your right the boys dont take themselves to seriously,but have been sabotaged.(Politically correct as they could make or tame them 2 boys.They used to be much wilder in the begining!).......

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GCarras wrote:

The episode, "Lightning Strikes," was more than mindless entertainment. It was one of the very few B&B cartoons to have a real message in it.

It was clearly an answer to the real-life idiots who make all kinds of accusations against Beavis and Butt-head, accusing them of influencing kids to engage in all kinds of mayhem.

The episode demonstrates that impressionable TV viewers can be harmed just as easilly by imitating what they see in a PBS documentary on Benjamin Franklin as by Beavis & Butt-head.

When the activist who visits B&B in the hospital discovers that they were injured by watching a PBS documentary, she conveniently discards her own findings, and pretends that B&B were harmed by watching music videos.

Lenny Bruce made a similar point when he said that the film "King of Kings" is more harmful to show to kids than a stag film. Nobody ever got crucified in a stag film!

Aside from the superb "Lightning Strikes" episode, B&B cartoons are mostly pure, undiluted fun, with no social/political agenda woven in. Although, come to think of it, there was a bit of social satire in the plane crash episode, in the scene when B&B went into the gun shop, and the owner repeatedly hinted for them to lie about their age so he can get around the law and make a sale.

Anyhow, I think "Lightning Strikes" should be shown to every crusading Moron-majority-type crusader who claims that B&B cartoons are destroying the fabric of our society, etc. Unfortunately, these uptight ultra-right-wing bungholes are probably too stupid to understand the message of that episode.

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ericperlin@SPAMSUCKS!!!pb.net wrote:

I kind of think this was a crappy episode. I mean the whole point of B&B was to be mindless. This show was at its best when there was no regard to critics. A response like this episode is totally unnecessary. Did any of us realize anything we didn't already know from this episode? Who was this episode written for? I didn't like it myself because it was politically based and the point of B&B is to be totally irreverent. Would B&B really have wanted to make an episode like this? "Videos with a message suck!" Also, it was just too blatant and had been done by the Simpsons (much better) several times before. (No offense B&B, but even the further copy by South Park was done a lot better) If you think this episode would change the opinions of the dumbasses that think TV causes people to do things they wouldn't otherwise do, I think you are sorely wrong. These people are first of all too stupid to understand satire and too closeminded to even consider another viewpoint. Mostly I think B&B is not the right forum for such a political episode. Try watching one of the early episodes and then follow it with this episode and it'll make you puke. There is something wonderful about the crass nature of B&B in the absence of any explanation for their behavior or justification. And, don't we all revel in the fact that so many people don't get B&B? Doesn't this give us a place to be crass and irreverent ourselves? In short I would say politics has no place on B&B.

What do you guys think?

Jason

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"Thinking is hard!" "It's cool to, like, try to think of stuff."

No, no, Jason, you don't get why "Lightning Strikes" and "The Miracle that is Beavis" as funny! Those are REAL PEOPLE in those episodes! There really is a Betty "Whiner" [that's the sound of her name -- don't know how it's spelled] for "Betsy Weiner," and that "motivational guy" with the BIG TEETH and BIG CHIN is real! I've seen those butt-munches on A&E and CSPAN. And the real ones are even STOOPIDER (if that's possible) that the lampooning characters! These two episodes are direct frontal attacks on those folks, and the episodes RULE! --DGP

That's not true. B&B are a satire on our empty-headed 90s media-obsessed youth culture. The reason MTV probably liked them at first was how they provided a glimpse of 2 fictional viewers of MTV who seem to do nothing else but watch videos and comment on them. Yes, B&B has a lot of masochistic slapstick humor at its core, but it's not just that.