McCaffrey should be fired (1/1)

Aug 9, 199845 posts by 11 posters
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D.G. Porter

Imagine this scenario: A top government official of a foreign country visits your country, and during that visit makes numerous statements to the effect that your country's murder rate is twice that of his country, that the overall crime rate of your country was "probably 40 percent higher" than in his country, and that your prison population and rates of drug usage were "way up." You, as a citizen of your country, know all of these assertions to be false, that the murder rate in the visitor's country is actually 4.5 times higher than in your country, that the overall *violent* crime rate in his country is actually closer to 50 percent higher than in your country, that he is comparing *violent* crime rates in his country to *overall* crime rates in your country to obtain his figures, and that the prison population in your country is actually closer to *one-ninth* the prison population of his country.

Is this visitor some sleazeball from the Ministry of Propaganda from Nazi Germany of sixty years ago, or a denizen of the Kremlin out of the old Soviet Union of thirty years ago? Hardly. He is General Barry McCaffrey, the so-called "drug tsar" of the United States, and his statements were aimed at the tiny European country of Holland. But his tactics are the same as those employed by those regimes. It is called "The Big Lie." It is the technique of exaggerating or even manufacturing "facts" and repeating them over and over, ignoring all rebuttals, until the majority of your own population believes them.

Before visiting The Netherlands a few weeks ago on a nominal "fact-finding" tour, McCaffrey denounced their approach to minimizing drug use as "an unmitigated disaster." He subsequently announced to an incredulous world that, "The overall crime rate in Holland is probably 40 percent higher than the United States. That's drugs." He also asserted that the Dutch drug policies were the main cause for a murder rate of 17.6 murders per 100,000 inhabitants, compared to a rate of 8 per 100,000 in the United States.

The Dutch government responded at first that it was "confounded and dismayed" at the General's opening remarks, and that the timing of the General's remarks, coming six days before he had even set foot in their country was "rather astonishing." And in answer to his broad assertions about their murder and crime rates, they noted that the General had arrived at his figures by including cases of attempted manslaughter in Holland with the number of actual murders (while using the figure for cases of "murder or non-negligent manslaughter" in the United States for comparison), and by including cases of all reported crimes in Holland while being more selective in his figures for the United States. The Dutch Minister of Foreign Affairs said, "His expressions are negative and he has thereby created the impression not to come to our country without prejudice."

(The U.S. crime index consists of offenses such as murder, non-negligent manslaughter, forcible rape (female victims only), robbery, aggravated assault, burglary, larceny-theft, motor vehicle theft and arson. The number of total crimes in The Netherlands contains ANY crime committed, including bicycle theft in a country where there are more bicycles than people.)

When confronted with the Dutch statistics on the comparative murder rate, McCaffrey responded, "So what if she's [the Dutch respondent] is right? All that means is that they aren't very good at murder." (Is this to be taken as an indication that the General thinks Americans are "very good at murder"?)

(Later, after returning to the U.S., the General remarked, "Deceptive terms should not obscure a position so that it can't be debated coherently.")

An analysis of the General's figures regarding teen drug use, on which he based his assertion that drug use among Dutch teens is twice that of the United States, was found to be similarly skewed. The General's figures for Holland included "any lifetime use," while his figure for the U.S. was "recent (last month) use."

When asked why the number of those who use hashish in the Netherlands was much lower than in the United States, McCaffrey replied, "I'm not sure if it's lower in the Netherlands. I also don't know if I want to know that." (So much for the General's stated intention of visiting Holland to take part in a "frank exchange of views amongst friends"! Later the General said, "I listened very carefully to their ideas.")

When confronted with statistics that differed from his own, McCaffrey is reported to have fallen silent and gazed into the distance.

Upon his return to the United States, McCaffrey noted that while he was in the Netherlands, "There was a huge uproar over murder rates and crime stats, and was I right or wrong?... For an American to suggest that their crime rates were higher than the U.S. absolutely blew their mind."

The General was wrong, and the reason for the "uproar" is clear to everyone except the General and his own "dittoheads."

Thirty years ago, it was a common joke to laugh when the Soviet Union made these kind of comments about the United States. I don't hear any laughter now; in fact, I don't hear much of anything about McCaffrey and his brand of instant statistics!

What do you call someone who repeatedly and willfully distorts the truth? You call him a liar.

McCaffrey has no legitimacy in his job. I am calling for his immediate firing.

--David G. Porter

D.G. Porter wrote the most boring piece of crap this side of lunch:

shut up! we dont' [address] we only care about getting a sequel to "Beavis and Butthead Do America"... now go away bunghole

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EEK!D.G. Porter

D.G. Porter wrote in article ...

Whoa... so do I....
D.G. PorterEEK!

Hey, baby. Ever been with an older man, uh-huh-huh-huh-huh! I like what I see. Now why don't you meet me in that booth over there? You might even get a candy bar out of the deal!

dude! that line might have worked on guys, but it won't work on a chick ;)

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Wubba Joe wrote:

dammit e heh I was showering today and I'm sure I was sexually harrased by omne of those sponges eheh dammit

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Not in Saskatchewan ehehe farm animals are legal (and neccesary) ;)

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Gay Cartoons 'R' Us wrote:

I'm starting to think that Freddy Mercury's Bungee-Jumping Mustache is not a mustache at all but some farm animal bungee jumping from his upper lip.

yeh ehehe maybe we should have a contesticle to see what everyone thinks it is? go see it veryone, and post her what anuimal you think it is :)

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So does that mean its his nads that are bungee jumping?

Wubba Joe wrote:

Maybe someone else's nads have been bungee-jumping into Freddie's mouth! He's guaranteed to blow your mind. Or, failing that, something else.

Don't say that cause that Gay Cartoon dude would agree with you.

Wubba Joe wrote:

uhuh Evil Beavis still wants me uhuh ;)

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"and another one falls and another falls, another one bites the crust"

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no he's just wearing it on his upper lip, and it keeps trying to jump back down to it's rightful place ehe ful ehehe

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is it elton's??? ;) sorry.. that's disrespectful... I meant SIR elton ;)

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Yeah, show him some respect.  After that Princess Di/"Candle in the
Wind" thing, he can do no wrong.   I'd like to see him do a tribute to
Frank Sinatra by rewriting "The Bitch is Back", or "Jamaica Jerk Off".
Or eulogize Roy Rogers by rewriting...oh, wait.  Elton's got a song
about him already.  Maybe he could rewrite it anyway.
	"Turn on the TV,
	 Put out the light,
	 Roy Rogers is dying tonight..."
Tom BirdWubba Joe

In article , Wubba Joe writes

That song was CRAP and Diana annoys the HELL out of me.

Hamster

On Fri, 21 Aug 1998 21:01:30 +0100, Tom Bird wrote:

Well, yeah, I guess. But at least she's dead. Prince Charles is a much bigger buttmunch (isn't he?), and he's going to be KING!

CB

Tom BirdCyberButt

In article , CyberButt writes

And he wants to marry a horse faced woman.

Hamster

Gary M.Tom Bird

I doubt that ant-ee-one would marry that wuss-looking butthole if it wasn't for his 'TIT-le'. emheeheh....he's probably never even had wood!

Gary M.

uhuh I told you most English chicks are ugly uhuh ;)

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uhuh *candle in his friend* uhuh :)

uhuh so you're not going to visit the grave, then? ;)

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In article , Gay Cartoons 'R' Us writes

Candle in the pOOp

Or do any of that other crappy worshipping... people actually travel hundreds of miles just to see where she lived... SAD BASTARDS!

Hamster

Gary M.Tom Bird

In France they are offering a 'Death Tour'.... starting at the hotel where they left from and ending up at the hospital where they died!!! huh huhuh French ppl!!!! ;)

Gary M. ;O

Tom BirdGary M.

In article , "Gary M." writes

heheh yeah... die die di di die kill kill die di di dodi di di

Hamster

On Wed, 26 Aug 1998 22:44:37 +0100, Tom Bird wrote:

Q: What was the last thing that went through Diana's head that night?

A: The radiator.

CB

Tom BirdCyberButt

In article , CyberButt writes

I was in the car last night and Diana was on the radio. And the windscreen. And the dashboard...

Hamster

Gary M.CyberButt
;D

"That was pretty messed up" "Yeah, that was cool..."

here's a joke on of my other Snapple-Crazed Chihuahua friends told me:

(Q) What did Dody say to the bodyguard?

(A) do you want to come in the car with me and Di? (uhuh "with me and die* uhuh geddit? uhuh)

yeh uhuh *I surrender* uhuh ;)

for more famous death stuff:

"Famous People's Graves Locator Site" http://www.findagrave.com/index.html

"Dead People Server" (find out who is and isn't dead) http://www.city-net.com/~lmann/dps/

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"It seems to me you lived your life like a camel with the wind...."

I'd like to see him do a tribute to

yeh who's next on elton's "song-o-death" list? he's written songs for that little boy who died of AIDS, he wrote one about John Lennon after he was killed, he wrote the Marilyn one, then the Diana one.....

I noticed he didn't write one for Johnny Versace.....

uhuh "dont' let your son go down on me..." ;)

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uhuh jealousy will get you nowhere uhuh :)

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Imagine this scenario: A top government official of a foreign country visits your country, and during that visit makes numerous statements to the effect that your country's murder rate is twice that of his country, that the overall crime rate of your country was "probably 40 percent higher" than in his country, and that your prison population and rates of drug usage were "way up." You, as a citizen of your country, know all of these assertions to be false, that the murder rate in the visitor's country is actually 4.5 times higher than in your country, that the overall *violent* crime rate in his country is actually closer to 50 percent higher than in your country, that he is comparing *violent* crime rates in his country to *overall* crime rates in your country to obtain his figures, and that the prison population in your country is actually closer to *one-ninth* the prison population of his country.

Is this visitor some sleazeball from the Ministry of Propaganda from Nazi Germany of sixty years ago, or a denizen of the Kremlin out of the old Soviet Union of thirty years ago? Hardly. He is General Barry McCaffrey, the so-called "drug tsar" of the United States, and his statements were aimed at the tiny European country of Holland. But his tactics are the same as those employed by those regimes. It is called "The Big Lie." It is the technique of exaggerating or even manufacturing "facts" and repeating them over and over, ignoring all rebuttals, until the majority of your own population believes them.

Before visiting The Netherlands a few weeks ago on a nominal "fact-finding" tour, McCaffrey denounced their approach to minimizing drug use as "an unmitigated disaster." He subsequently announced to an incredulous world that, "The overall crime rate in Holland is probably 40 percent higher than the United States. That's drugs." He also asserted that the Dutch drug policies were the main cause for a murder rate of 17.6 murders per 100,000 inhabitants, compared to a rate of 8 per 100,000 in the United States.

The Dutch government responded at first that it was "confounded and dismayed" at the General's opening remarks, and that the timing of the General's remarks, coming six days before he had even set foot in their country was "rather astonishing." And in answer to his broad assertions about their murder and crime rates, they noted that the General had arrived at his figures by including cases of attempted manslaughter in Holland with the number of actual murders (while using the figure for cases of "murder or non-negligent manslaughter" in the United States for comparison), and by including cases of all reported crimes in Holland while being more selective in his figures for the United States. The Dutch Minister of Foreign Affairs said, "His expressions are negative and he has thereby created the impression not to come to our country without prejudice."

(The U.S. crime index consists of offenses such as murder, non-negligent manslaughter, forcible rape (female victims only), robbery, aggravated assault, burglary, larceny-theft, motor vehicle theft and arson. The number of total crimes in The Netherlands contains ANY crime committed, including bicycle theft in a country where there are more bicycles than people.)

When confronted with the Dutch statistics on the comparative murder rate, McCaffrey responded, "So what if she's [the Dutch respondent] is right? All that means is that they aren't very good at murder." (Is this to be taken as an indication that the General thinks Americans are "very good at murder"?)

(Later, after returning to the U.S., the General remarked, "Deceptive terms should not obscure a position so that it can't be debated coherently.")

An analysis of the General's figures regarding teen drug use, on which he based his assertion that drug use among Dutch teens is twice that of the United States, was found to be similarly skewed. The General's figures for Holland included "any lifetime use," while his figure for the U.S. was "recent (last month) use."

When asked why the number of those who use hashish in the Netherlands was much lower than in the United States, McCaffrey replied, "I'm not sure if it's lower in the Netherlands. I also don't know if I want to know that." (So much for the General's stated intention of visiting Holland to take part in a "frank exchange of views amongst friends"! Later the General said, "I listened very carefully to their ideas.")

When confronted with statistics that differed from his own, McCaffrey is reported to have fallen silent and gazed into the distance.

Upon his return to the United States, McCaffrey noted that while he was in the Netherlands, "There was a huge uproar over murder rates and crime stats, and was I right or wrong?... For an American to suggest that their crime rates were higher than the U.S. absolutely blew their mind."

The General was wrong, and the reason for the "uproar" is clear to everyone except the General and his own "dittoheads."

Thirty years ago, it was a common joke to laugh when the Soviet Union made these kind of comments about the United States. I don't hear any laughter now; in fact, I don't hear much of anything about McCaffrey and his brand of instant statistics!

What do you call someone who repeatedly and willfully distorts the truth? You call him a liar.

McCaffrey has no legitimacy in his job. I am calling for his immediate firing.

--David G. Porter

BC ConnexGary M.

Hmm-emhememehem! you said "count"ry.you know, cunt! hm-emhememememhem

Jason Reid wrote: ^^ ehehe *on* ehehe

oh yeah.. he DID! ehehehememememem

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err.. imagine if your weener could oscillate at 100MHZ eheh ;)

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 you in this toilet..."
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I think that's called *diplomatic impurity* or something uhuh ;)

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