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Jul 9, 199839 posts by 30 postersalt.tv.southpark
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Saw this at www.beef-cake.com...could someone write them and let them know where they can stick their little SP awareness guide??

hmmm...i think it's time for a Lamer Post Translation Theatre...heheheh...stay tuned.

Sir Galahad - "And coming from a Christian(me), that's harsh..." http://www.primenet.com/~srgalhad

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                                  South Park - The Poisoning of Our
                                                    Youth
                               South Park is a cartoon which uses paper
doll cut-out-type
                               animation featuring 8 year old children. The
setting is the fictional
                               town of South Park, Colorado and the
children attend South Park
                               Elementary School. The program is aired
weekly on Comedy
Central at 10:00 p.m. and has earned a TV-MA (mature audience) rating. As
such, Comedy Central insists
that their target audience is adults. While the producers of South Park may
claim that their target audience
is adults, it doesn't take a genius to realize, after seeing who the
sponsors of South Park are, that this claim
is totally and completely bogus. Advertisers on South Park include youth
oriented products such as
ADIDAS, AMERICA ONLINE, AIWA AMERICA, NINTENDO, REEBOK, SONY, and many
others.

Christian Family Network has prepared a South Park Education/Action Guide to help make people aware of South Park and its potential affect upon our youth. It only take a brief analysis of our daily headlines of recent killings at public schools in West Paducah, Kentucky, Jonesboro, Arkansas, Edinboro, Pennsylvania and Springfield, Oregon to realize that our nation's youth are being feed a steady stream of violence in the media that poisons as surely as if they swallowed it.

This Action Guide is available FREE OF CHARGE by sending your name and address to Christian Family Network at the address listed at the top of this page or by sending an e-mail with the same information to [email]. Please put 'South Park' in the subject box to help us get the package out to you faster. If you would like to call and request your Action Guide, call (937)236-5433. If you get an answering device, leave your name, address and phone number (in case there is any question about your address) and we'll get the Action Guide in the mail to you as soon as possible. As a preview to the Action Guide, below you will find the Table of Contents. The section entitled Children, the Media, and Violence is presented here in its entirety.

Working together we can help protect our youth from vile trash like South Park.

                            SOUTH PARK
                      Education/Action Guide
                           Table of Contents
                            South Park - The Poisoning of Our Youth
                                Simple-Step Action Plan Guide
                                    Where to Write/Call
                                   Sample Business Letter
                               Petition to Local Cable Provider
                                 Anti-Christian Issue Analysis
                              Drugs, Alcohol, Gun Issue Analysis
                                 Homosexual Issue Analysis
                                  Language Issue Analysis
                                Sexual Content Issue Analysis
                                  Violence Issue Analysis
                     Children, The Media, and Violence: A CFN Position
Paper
                    Complete Example Dialogue: "Cartman Gets An Anal Probe"
   To Order Your FREE Education/Action Guide:
                               Call: (937)236-5433
       Write: Christian Family Network, P.O. Box 24171, Dayton Ohio 45424
                          E-Mail: [email]
Updated: June 23, 1998 More Information: E-Mail to: [email] Comments about this site: [email]

To this article and all who would write or support information such as this, I must simply remind you that we live in the United States of America. Here we have a thing called freedom of choice, which many people have died defending. The religious zealots are always harping on the fact that God is an integral part of the United States. Well, guess what, so is freedom of speech. To put it in terms that your small, pea-like minds can undertsand, if you don't like it DON"T FUCKING WATCH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We now return you to your normal vegitative state.

Hey i love southpark but come on. We may have the right to do what we want to do in the US but that ALSO means they have to right to protest it as well!! The rule swings both ways!! I love southpark but we must be fair. There will always be a fight with this type of programming. Thats the flip side of free speech. Lurch

Lurch said...

They can tell me they don't like South Park. That's fine. I can tell them that I like South Park. That's also fine.

THey have no more right to try and force the program off the air than I do to tie them in a chair and make them watch it. I'm not changing their ability to do something (not watch it). They are trying to change my ability to do something (watch ti). And therein lies the difference.

Their television has an off/off switch same as everyone else's. Just 'cause they don't know how to use it doesn't give them the right to affect what other people choose to watch.

Tirya

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Yes but protesting means to not watch the show not trying to tell everyone else what to do and to belive in what they say or they will get mad. If you dont like the show then dont watch it and dont let your kids watch it.. As for me i will do what and if i (and i do) let my kids watch it that is my choice!!!!!You see, I can let my kids watch the show because unlike you protesters out there i have kids who understand the diff. between right and wrong and i teach the that. IF YOU WOULD TAKE THE TIME TO TEACH YOUR KIDS, AND INSTILL MORALS IN THEM THEN YOU WOULD NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE TV TEACHING THEM OTHERWISE.

Yes the internet does not stop at the US border but this show is made in AMERICA and if they dont want to watch it then dont let it in!!!!!!!

"Killings in public schools" blamed on South Park? My gosh, chlorine bleach can harm children if they drink it; parents don't let them. Shootings happened because parents allowed guns to be available.

If you'd had my teachers in grammar school, it wouldn't be surprising that the kids are finally showing some initiative (ha ha).

abe hornberg

"If you fancy it, there it is, in your eye. If not, be it his that finds it."

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This all seems really ironic to me, seeing as how I just watched "Death" for the first time...

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Fictional? Explain those ads with the south park residents being asked baout weird things in their town a while back then.>ADIDAS, AMERICA ONLINE, AIWA AMERICA, NINTENDO, REEBOK, SONY, and many

Youth oriented products? More like the products that 18 yr olds use. I dont see 8 yr olds addicted to aol.

I don't know about that one. It surely takes the mentality of an 8 yr old to want an AOL account. ;)

Anyone feeling like reposting the DIARY OF AN AOL USER?

Metlhd3138 wrote in article ... > > I dont see 8 yr olds addicted to aol.
AndrewMetlhd3138alt.tv.southpark

You forget that most of the religous wrong...err... right is composed of people fifty and up. To them, 18 years olds still are kids and 18 year olds are not capable of making their own decisions.

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Just wanted to drop a line to say this-- I am a Christian, and I think South Park is a great show. Dave Hollins, Space Cadet -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Kryten: He evolved from cats, sir, just as your distant ancestors once swung from trees. Rimmer: Ancestors? His >grandparents< swung from trees.

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Is this a racist comment??

Go back to woodstock, hippie, if you can't slam a religion correctly! SIrG

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And so does Red Dwarf . . .

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This is the text of an essay I wrote in March. It seems pretty pertinent to this discussion. Remember this was written before any of the new episodes, so hold your flames. And, if any of you lazy students use any of this, let me know how it worked.

Ernie Mayhorn

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The 12 Deaths of Kenny, or Why I Think South Park is OK

�Oh my god, they killed Kenny!� This phrase can be heard in the hallways of every school in America. What does it mean? Who is Kenny? Why has he been killed? Is he a bad person? Are he and his friends really that bad?

Kenny is one of four eight-year old boys (along with Eric, Stan, and Kyle) in a TV show aired on the cable station Comedy Central called South Park. Yes, Kenny is killed in each of the 13 episodes, with the exception of the Christmas episode where he was thankfully spared, but not before a run-in with a shark tank and a near electrocution. What am I talking about here? Is this for real?

Yes, South Park is for real. It is the highest rated show on cable TV today, with over 4.5 million people tuning in to witness the Christmas show. It has been called �not just the hottest cartoon but the hottest youth-cult phenomenon in the country� by Spin Magazine. Time Magazine has described it as �the latest giant asteroid to slam into American pop culture� and a show �which deserves our attention�. But, what is the continued uproar over this show? Just because 4 eight year old children have so far seen an alien abduction, where one of them experienced an anal probe, the attempted assassination of Kathy Lee Gifford, a town turned into zombies, the trials and tribulations of genetic cloning, dealing with a gay pet, and a pay-per-view fight between Satan and Jesus Christ, does this make South Park a bad thing? Is it fair to describe South Park as �next to such popular agents of murder and mayhem, the Devil doesn�t even stick out�? I say, not at all � keep it in the context with which it is presented. I say that South Park is not an overly violent show, and therefore deserving of television, because it portrays eight year old boys as they truly are, is meant to be absurd as to strike a nerve, and is just plain fun to watch!

As a former eight-year-old boy, I can honestly say that when you are eight, the coolest thing that you can do is curse! The next coolest thing is to be gross! Yes, it is important to be able to outgross your friends. This is nothing more than a rite of boyhood. You cannot change it, and do not deny it. Little boys can be mean, weird, and nasty.

Young boys will literally laugh at anything, and that is proved on this show. At times it seems more scatological then logical. I hate to break it to people, but yes, boys do laugh also at the misery of others. When someone falls down and scrapes his knee, or even worse, the first thing eight-year-old boys will do is laugh out loud at him. They will think nothing of laughing at someone who is tall, short, thin, fat, hairy, bald, dark, light, cute, ugly, religious, non-religious, poor � it doesn�t matter! Boys will laugh and tease their peers about anything. If you keep this in the back of your mind when viewing the show, it seems to make a bit more sense. As Time Magazine sums it all up, �The creators are not simply out to offend people, but are exploring the surreal terrors of childhood. The show would not be so funny, and its outrageous humor would not be shaded by such fear and poignancy, if it weren�t an imaginative recreation of an authentic experience.� Amen.

To say that this show is absurd is as understated as can be imagined. This is a show where Kathie Lee Gifford was almost assassinated, but was then was saved and then was able to spend the night with the school Chef. This of course after he sang a love song to her, where he proclaimed �Kathie Lee, you�re my sexual fantasy�. A world where Santa Claus and Jesus Christ fought over the true meaning of Christmas, but if that was not enough, Jesus got to fight a second match with Satan, which was of course on pay per view. A world where all of the gay pets in South Park had ran away to a mystical land overseen by Big Gay Al, a world where they could play and dance to disco songs, and not worry about being social outcasts by their owners. Only in South Park could elephants mate with pigs. This is a place where starving Ethiopians are substituted for watches as gifts for pledging money to Sally Struthers. And, as a finale, a world where the true purveyor of Christmas cheer, Mr. Hankey, can only be tastefully described as a stool specimen with a sailors hat, and a falsetto voice. What in the world is this? Is this truly a place that Spin Magazine refers to as �perversely, South Park may be one of the realest social worlds on TV�? Yes it is -- this is satire, folks. Comedy, the kind that makes you gut laugh, turn your head, roll over, and cry. Then again, it might make you turn your channel as quickly as humanly possible.

Don�t be alarmed, folks. While this show sounds insane (and it is), it is never shown before 10PM. It is the only regular series on television that carries the new TV-MA or Mature rating code (shows for mature audiences over 18), and can be blocked with the new V-chip. Yes, it is a cartoon. No, it is not for children. It is for adults, simply put. And, cartoons for adults are not such bad things. Remember that one of the biggest cartoons for adults ever was The Flintstones. This was a crazy show! A direct knock-off of one of the greatest TV shows of all time (The Honeymooners), full of inside jokes, and even at times a bit racy. Many young boys had the biggest crushes on Wilma and Betty. And, the show on February 22, 1963, where Pebbles was born, is still one of the highest rated shows of all times. So, yes, there is certainly a place for adult cartoons.

In closing, the other reason to watch South Park can be wrapped up easily � it is fun to watch! This has become the new �thing to do� � South Park viewing parties. It is a now a social event. No, it is not an educational experience. The odds are fairly good that you will not get smarter from watching it. Nor will you be considered a better person for watching it. Heck, people might even turn their nose up at you for watching it. And I say, let them. Life is too short to not have a little bit of harmless fun now and again. And, if people still want to harass you about this show, ask you why you would even bother watching this show, or go so far as to question your sanity or intelligence, remember what Mr. Garrison, the boy�s teacher, had to say about people who ask questions: �There are no stupid questions, just stupid people.�

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<standing ovation> I don't think it's ever been said so well. Of course, try telling this to the Christian Family Network..

Marguerrite, Hunter of the Infamous Matt and Trey (they call me Kim, but I know better) Aka Crabtree-Norn "Sit down and shut up!" "&^*$ Censorship!"-originated on alt.tv.southpark

You are making one of the many mistakes people make when they think of Christian zealots. You assume they are all old farts. Just the opposite. Do not underestimate them. Many have, that's why they now wield the power they do. Another is that they are goody two shoes. The makers & shakers are devoted, comitted and dare I say it? As evil as anyone in politics.

Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgment that something else is more important than fear. -Ambrose Redmoon

JonSir Galahadalt.tv.southpark

Hey, here's an idea for those religious freaks. If you don't like south park, DON'T WATCH IT. And if your kids know about the show. I'd like to know where the hell you were when they started watching this ADULT ORIENTED program. Ever heard of getting involved in you child's life. Sounds like another bunch of over zelous fanatics trying to push their beliefs on others. Who the hell do they think they are to tell others what to watch.

Jon

Is the complete text of the "education/action kit" available anywhere online? I'd order one of my own, but I'd rather not end up on one of their spam lists.

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Bochebiohazardalt.tv.southpark

Check out http://www.cfnweb.com/ And if you think religious groups can't get cartoons kicked off the air then I should remind you of what happen to the newer Mighty Mouse episodes (by Ralph Balski SP?). That show got kicked off on with the accustion that it encouraged cocaine use by children!

biohazard wrote in message ...

On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 21:07:12 GMT, "Boche" wrote:

I already did, that's how I found out about the kit! But the kit itself is not available on the site, only via US Mail.

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Bochebiohazardalt.tv.southpark

I tried e-mail using "South Park" in the subject an a simple "Tell me more" request but haven't got a response. Do you think I'm using too many big words in my request ;)?

The kicker to on their home page is right after their diatribe against the evils of South Park they go in to a frenzy about how THEY are being censored. Here's the text:

the producer of the leading internet blocking software

its biblical stand on homosexuality. Calling AFA's stand on >homosexuality "intolerant", the software manufacturer has refused to unblock AFAs site even after peer review. If CyberPartol can block AFAs >site based on a biblical stand, who will be next? CFN? Your local church? This is a very dangerous precendent."

So it appears that a product no one is forced to purchased is being intolerant while CFN is just looking out for "our own good" by blocking our right to view South Park. Go figure.

biohazard wrote in message ...

But this show is not for children!!!!!! AND IF YOU WOULD TEACH YOUR CHILDREN NOT TO DO DRUGS YOU WOULDENT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ANYBODY ELSE TELLING THEM TO DO THEM...

Sir Galahad said...

Wow, I bet all the people who live in the *real* town of South Park Colorado will be pleased to learn that they don't exist!!! Sorry, any modicum of credibility I *might* have been inclined to offer this piece just went right out the window.

...because we all know that good Christian children go to bed at 8pm on weeknights to be ready for school the next day. And their parents are home at 10pm and should be able to exert something resembling parental responsibility with regards to the idiot box.

...because they are rating their show in accordance with the Television Rating System that people screamed and yelled for... and then promptly ignored...

I still want to know where the "youth" they're afraid of being corrupted is getting the *money* to buy products from Adidas, AOL, Aiwa, Nintendo, Reebok, Sony, etc... Hell, I'm 27 and employed full time and *I* don't have the money to pay the prices these "sponsors" are asking for some of their products!!! (Although I have to admit that the Aiwa commercial with "Another One Bites The Dust" is damned amusing!!)

In this Guide, you will be instructed on how to work your remote control, specifically the "ON/OFF" button and the "Change Channel" button. The Guide also includes a brief packet on Good Parenting, with a chapter entitled "The TV Is Not A Babysitter."

The millions of children who go to school each day *without* killing their classmates is detrimental to our cause, however, so we won't mention them.

However, we don't know yet what to do about protecting our youth from neglectful parents who are expecting everyone else to raise their children for them. We're still working on shaping everyone else up, first.

Tirya

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Yeah, this is why I posted that in the first place. Yes, I am a christian, and heavan forbid, I was just like that once. Until I started realizing that most of the stuff I was being told kinda of defied one of God's greatest commands: Judge not, lest ye be judged yourself.

Me eyes were woken up after going to a slew of Satan in Rock seminars and realizing that all they were telling me was from hearsay and rumor (IE. all the members of Queen are active homosexuals. KISS stands for Kids In Service to Satan, Anton LaVey is in the ballroom in the Hotel California inner sleeve, All the members of Fleetwood Mac are witches, Jimmy Page lives in Alister Crowley's house(well, actually he does)...Granted some are true, but some are just excuses), so that's why I got pissed off at the artice i posted.

1. Is Southpark immoral...oh hell yes. Thats a given, if this was 1950 there'd be no way in hell that show would be on the air.

2. Is this america? Yup, freedom of speech and all that. If that truly is the case, then it's the parent's decision on what his/her children watches, not the church.

3. Most interesting...If you look REAL closely, there is NO MENTION of the fact that Jesus is a supporting character. Hell, that was the FIRST thing that made me cringe when I started watching southpark, because you're taught in Church that He is the one thing that you shouldn't make fun of...but like everything else Matt and Trey does, I got over it. You would think a Religous group staging a protest would put that. I mean their little guidebook has the script transcription to Anal Probe. If I wanted to put SP out I'd use Spirit of Xmas anyday. Or The Mexican Staring Frog.

Basically, the whole point is if you're going to protest something, at least put a little more research into it. Not hearsay and rumors and what you saw as you were clipping channels because Benny Hinn was busy recombing his hair.

Sir Galahad "Did I mention that the Alice Cooper song, "Cold Ethyl" is about necrophilia?" http://www.primenet.com/~srgalhad

Jimmy Page not only lives in Aleister Crowley's house, he also practices magic....probably some form of Thelema. As far as Fleetwood Mac being Witches...don't really know but I can tell you that the kind of Witches they'd be, you wouldn't hear about at some CHristian propaganda seminar.

Check out http://www.celticcrow.com for real information on Witches and magic

Or http://www.witchvox.com Or http://www.newageinfo.com Or keyword "Pagan" if you are on AOL

Isis Bless, Asethotep

I know I am late on this but.... South Park Immoral....BIGGEST BUNCH OF BS!!!!! That show has better morals that BARNEY! Lets take the Damien episode. Everyone went back on Jesus for Satan and what happened? THEY GOT SCREWED. It displayed that when you go for evil instead of good you get screwed EVERY TIME. How about The Death episode? The parents were all yelling about some show that they found wrong and immpropor for their children to watch, but they are doing exactly what every parent that wants south park off the air is doing, using TV as a babysitter. Maybe if instead of plopping your kid down infront of the TV you should either watch with him or not let him watch TV and make him do more creative things. So fine, it throws some cursing in there but please! What show doesn't? It's not immoral so do me a favor and SHUT UP! -me

Sir Galahad wrote:

Why would there be? For them to know that they'd actually have to watch the show, and we CAN't have people actually getting accurate info on the things they're protesting, can we?

Xenu Self-declared Anti-Scientologist(Go ahead, try and sue me)

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Youth oriented products such as Adidas? Reebok? Sony? AMERICA ONLINE? These are products that youths use... not youth oriented ones, except for maybe Nintendo. These are huge companies with knowledge of where the big bucks are. They advertise on South Park because it's one of the most watched shows on Earth.

A brief analysis of the headlines? It sounds to me that if that's the case, then the people sending violent, murderous messages are the newspaper editors. These people are so quick to blame anything except for society itself on the rise in youth violence, because they won't accept their part in it. You can't ignore the problem and hope it goes away, and you can't fix it by banning harmless TV shows.

I don't want them to know my address.

Vile trash... isn't that exactly what Carol Broflofski called Terrance and Philip?

Wouldn't it be a better example to show "A South Park Christmas"? That's MUCH more terrible, evil and heretical.

These people fail to realize one basic truth. If everyone were to get rid of everything that offended them, then soon there would be nothing left. They are not helping anyone or anything with your rabid censorship. It's a good thing nobody will listen to them.

Martin (1/2 Christian 1/2 Jewish)

"God, grant me the strength to change what I can, the inability to accept what I can't, and the incapacity to tell the difference."

--Calvin and Hobbes

I must agree. I watched 3 stooges and daffy duck getting shot by hunters all my childhood (and feel extremely lucky I wasn't born later because before I knew it only edited versions were being broadcast) and I never once thought that hitting another person or shooting anyone would play a laugh track in the background and people would love me. People who think TV causes violence are every bit as bad as those religious fanatics who, seeing the sun move across the sky, came to the conclusion that the earth was the center of the universe. It doesn't work that way and it never will! If you want to lay the blame on anybody I'd have to go with the parents. These people might have been the nicest people in the world, but that quality never hit home in their child. Teach your children, teach yourself.

Bob

Ok, Well if they are "wacked out in the head as you say, Don't you think that what they see and hear has a factor in how they act and think? DON'T BE STUPID!!!!

RabbitDsdavis2alt.tv.southpark

Dsdavis2 wrote:

Nope. I've seen one million vicious murders on television and in the movies, but I've never killed anyone.

Rabbit

Rabbit wrote:

...yet!
;-D
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Peter Thomas wrote:

True. The next rugrat that runs its little mini-shopping cart into the back of my legs in the grocery store may end up facing the result of the last time I saw "Die Hard".

Rabbit