Pip

Why does everyone(ok most) people say pip is french?

He has an english accent. and a very un-subtle one at that. and he also wears a cap like the english children do in the movies.

Because little kids are ignorant and can't tell the difference. All they know is that Pip isn't American. -Toni

MaskedMan wrote:

On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 23:02:30 -0400, "MaskedMan" wrote:

It's a joke.

The ignorant youths of South Park know Pip is somehow foreign, and pretty much just picked a European country at random and decided that's where they thought he was from... they hate Pip, and thus don't care enough about him to really find out what his story is.

----- Lone Wolf AKA Powerslave My Kung-Fu is the best.

"It was as if the lights dimmed just for him." - Steve Buscemi, Desperado

"Into the flood again... same old trip it was back then... so I made a big mistake... try to see it once my way..." - Alice in Chains, "Would"

"Just because you ARE a character doesn't mean that you HAVE character." - Winston Wolf (Harvey Keitel), Pulp Fiction

I never understand the reason why everybody hates Pip. Some have suggested that it is his lack of assertiveness, but that still doesn't justify their downright hatred toward him. They just don't have to respect him. It is believable that someone like Cartman would pick on him, but Stan and Kyle are supposed to be more sensible than that.

In the real world, an obnoxious fatass, like Cartman, who throws a fit and kicks everybody out of his birthday party because one person didn't bring the birthday present he demanded, is far more likely not to have any friends.

Or is it the jealousy for being the rich kid who carries around $50 bills?

On Wed, 19 Aug 1998 08:55:33 GMT, "Bill K." wrote:

Because he's DIFFERENT. He wears different clothes, speaks differently... like they said in Satan vs. Jesus...

"Well, they used to pick on the fat boy all the time... but when the fat boy started picking on me, they left him alone."

(something like that... I'm paraphrasing and butchering the script horribly.)

But Pip is MUCH more different, between his voice and clothing, than Cartman, who's just fat.

That, too... but it seems like the kids aren't aware or care about Pip's money... or they'd be ripping him off left and right.

----- Lone Wolf AKA Powerslave My Kung-Fu is the best.

"It was as if the lights dimmed just for him." - Steve Buscemi, Desperado

"Into the flood again... same old trip it was back then... so I made a big mistake... try to see it once my way..." - Alice in Chains, "Would"

"Just because you ARE a character doesn't mean that you HAVE character." - Winston Wolf (Harvey Keitel), Pulp Fiction

It was in "Damien" that Chef specifically tells the children not to hate anyone for being different when they tell him there's a new freak in the class, yet he too seems to encourage and participate in the Pip persecution by making him play football without a helmet and tells him to shut up when he has just won them the dodgeball championship.

Sounds like their hatred of Pip is extremely intense if they judge their friends/enemies by how much they persecute Pip...just for looking and talking differently????

But Cartman is downright rude, obnoxious, and offensive. I can't see how anybody would forgive him after his birthday party tirade.

Maybe they'll one day make an episode dedicated to the story of Pip and give us some insight into his background and why everyone hates him. Perhaps the kids have the misfortune of having classical literature in the school curriculum, and as a result, have grown a hatred for anything resembling a character from a Dickens novel. :)

On Thu, 20 Aug 1998 01:45:32 GMT, "Bill K." wrote:

Uh... welcome to the real world. Kids have been doing that for a thousand years.

Because his mom is a wicked ass good cook. (and on the cover of Crack Whore magazine)

Wouldn't be the first...

----- Lone Wolf AKA Powerslave My Kung-Fu is the best.

"It was as if the lights dimmed just for him." - Steve Buscemi, Desperado

"Into the flood again... same old trip it was back then... so I made a big mistake... try to see it once my way..." - Alice in Chains, "Would"

"Just because you ARE a character doesn't mean that you HAVE character." - Winston Wolf (Harvey Keitel), Pulp Fiction

You see, there probably isn't really a reason for the kids to hate Pip. I have read in the TV Guide (in the secrets of South Park section or whatever from a while ago) that Pip was included as the kid everyone hated because Matt & Trey hate Great Expectations (Pip was the name of the main character in that book). So there ya go!

P.S. Did anyone here read that book? I had to for English in 9th grade--UGH! I can definitely see why M&T made Pip the hated one!

In article , [email] wrote:

I had to read "A Tale of Two Cities" for my AP English class last year (ooh, *tough*), and I HATED it. I was about ready to go and dig Dickens up, reanimate him, and then kill him again.

Ah, yes, Dickens ... there is a special place in hell for that man. I read an awful lot of classical literature but with a few exceptions ("A Christmas Carol", for one) I can't stomach the man.

What you have to remember is that Dickens' work was originally run in newspapers and magazines, and he was paid by the word. When your salary is negotiated that way, it's never a house ... it's always a large, well-lit, many-windowed, ivy-covered, slate-roofed, expensive house in the very centre of a large city. And so on ...

Rabbit

[email] wrote:

Oh, yes! I can certainly relate here! I absolutely couldn't *stand* Great Expectations! Both the book and from our deranged teacher (who would have conversations with an invisible Charles Dickens in the middle of class--scary! She'd be like, "Oh, Charlie! We really do enjoy your book! Pip is my favorite character!" while we'd all be looking on, frightened. I'll never forget the day when that teacher said to me, "Ok, Jason. You can read a paragraph now!" You see, I'm a girl, and I'm Jess! So, I say, "Umm, Jason is over there!" Her, to me, "JASON! Read the paragraph already!" Me, "OK, but I think you should let Jess <I indicate Jason at this point> have a turn to read!" Her, "Jess can read later!" Yup. I've got some *FOND MEMORIES* from that frightening class, both of that awful book and our psychotic teacher!]

~Kyle Broslofski~

Kyle Broslofski wrote:

Oh my god. Your story caused me to have flashbacks about my psyho spanish high school teacher. We all figured he was a Nazi or something. He would always come to class carrying a mysterious brown paper bag...a little drinkie poo perhaps? One time he wouldnt let us leave becuase he was missing his briefcase. Turns out the asshole himself locked it in a cupboard. Hmm...reminds me of Mr. Garrison. We also heard rumors that he believed Jesus was an alien, and he said weird things like if you drank too much water, you'd die (or drown or something). What a lunatic! -Toni

Actually you can die if you drink to much water, I've heard it discussed on two different accounts. I think it boils down to a cellular(sp?) level, and your cells couldn't handle water. But keep in mind that you have to drink alot of water, and you would probably feel sick or something. Either that or your bladder would explode(the ave bladder can only hold 600 ml of water I heard. *shrug*

Jeff

Umm...if your bladder is full you pee. it wouldn't explode. YOu'd just have to pee every two seconds. -me

de Jong wrote:

Rupture, maybe, if you've got a stopper in your pisser, but that's pretty unlikely.

In article , [email] (de Jong) writes:

You won't die from drinking too much water. You might get a stomach-ache or have to piss a lot, but that's it.

Speaking of exploding bladders, that's how Ptomely (astronmer who created the everything-rotates-around-the-earth model of the solar system) died. He was having supper with his patron (the king) and was too polite to excuse himself to use the bathroom when his patron was giving a very long speach.

Well ok...but you'd have to drink at least 100 gallons of it. And that would be hard...people don't get scared. Don't stop drinking either..the amount of water you would have to drink to get killed is ridiculous...your water bill would make you wish you were dead so don't sweat it! :) -me

Ann wrote:

Not true.

3 litres should do the trick.

BULLSHIT. that is major bullshit. Throughout the day your supposed to drink a gallon of water a day and more won't hurt 1 gallon = 3.75 litres -me

Ann wrote:

No, it's true, although it may be a bit more than 3 litres (I can't find the source I have on it right at the moment, but it's somewhere within my books). But you're missing the point -- you have to drink it all at once, forcefully, within a very short period of time.

For the record:

Yes, it's true. No, it's not going to happen to any of you, unless you're tortured by particularly cruel captors. Any "picture" you have of drinking water is not it. We're talking force-feeding here. It will probably cause hallucinations first.

Rabbit

In all seriousness, the latter one is true ...

Rabbit (And I do suspect the former)

Rabbit wrote:

Oh man, I shouldn't have set myself up for the Jesus thing. I'll keep my mouth shut though and not say anything. People are entitled to their own opinions. -Toni (a devout Catholic-for the most part)

I also had a somewhat phycotic (spelling?) english teacher. If we didn't pay enough attention he'd throw a desk accross the room. And occasionally his seniors would come down and start a fight in the middle of class. He would of course fight back and give them all wedgies (it was a great break from discussing Madame Defarge). But It all worked out cuz sometimes he got us bagels. Ohh BTW, did I include that we all had to write journals...but he threw them at us instead of handing them out. Also in front of the whole class, I had to act out a fight scene in the begginning of romeo and juliet with little plastic forks. Ohh well... -me

Kyle Broslofski wrote:

That reminds me so much of my 8th grade *RELIGION* (?) teacher. He'd beat up the boys in the middle of class, and one time he picked one up and put them on top of the television set, also give them wedgies, hit them with the briefcase, etc. One time, we were playing charades in that class, and some of the things we had to act out were some of the 7 mortal sins, someone picked the paper that said "lust", and they had to act out what lust is in the middle of religion class. And once the word "prostitute" was drawn out by some poor boy, who tried to act that out without embarassing himself.

~Kyle Broslofski~ The Things That Go On In Catholic Schools...

In article , Kyle Broslofski writes:

Funny, I don't recall "prostitute" as being one of the deadly sins...

They were portraying "lust".

The teacher just put that one in there,(even though it had nothing to do with the deadly sins or anything) just to torture a poor soul with embarassment.

~Kyle Broslofski~

In article , [email] wrote:

Is there other stuff from that issue you wouldn't mind sharing? I love to hear about stuff like this and didn't read that issue of TV Guide... Thanks lots...

Andrea

[email] wrote:

I don't have that article with me--my mom threw it out a while ago. But my friend has it, so I'm gonna bug her to make a copy of it for me, and when she does, I'll post the info here for y'all!

~Kyle Broslofski~

Actually, his real name is Philip, but everybody calls him Pip because they hate him. I thought they called him that as short for "Pip Squeak" or something like that.

On Wed, 19 Aug 1998 17:20:10 GMT, "Bill K." wrote:

No... Pip explains this, actually, in an episode (Cartman Gets an Anal Probe, I think? Definitely first season)

"You see, my given name being Phillip, and my father's name being Pirrip..."

(something like that... again, I'm butchering the script)

----- Lone Wolf AKA Powerslave My Kung-Fu is the best.

"It was as if the lights dimmed just for him." - Steve Buscemi, Desperado

"Into the flood again... same old trip it was back then... so I made a big mistake... try to see it once my way..." - Alice in Chains, "Would"

"Just because you ARE a character doesn't mean that you HAVE character." - Winston Wolf (Harvey Keitel), Pulp Fiction

Yeppers, just like Pip in Great Expectations. His (the Great Expectations one)name was Philip Pirrip or something, but was called Pip for short. As the Pip in that novel said, "My father's family name being Pirrip, and my Christian name being Philip, my infant tongue could make of both names nothing longer or more explicit than Pip. So, I called myself Pip, and came to be called Pip." (yes, I have that thing memorized because I had to read the stinking thing so many times) So, both Pips names are really Philip. And South Park Pip is based on the Great Expectations in other ways as well (parents being dead, some things he says, etc.)

~Kyle Broslofski~

In article , Kyle Broslofski writes

He actually says exactly that in one of the early episodes.

As I recall he *tries* to say all that, but he gets cut off at about the phrase "infant tongue." When it comes to the South Park kids (and many of the adults too) we're definitely *not* talkin huge attention spans....

UGH!!! If there was a time machine I'd go back and shoot charles dickins. I had to read Great Expectations and A tale of two cities in 4 months. -me

Kyle Broslofski wrote:

I've only seen one episode with Pip. How many episodes has the character been in anyways?

On Wed, 19 Aug 1998 16:49:46 GMT, Poof wrote:

He's had lines in at least 4-6 episodes...

Cartman Gets an Anal Probe Elephant Fucks a Pig Satan vs. Jesus Mechastreisand Conjoined Twin Myslexia

That's just off the top of my head... I'm sure someone who has every episode memorized will provide a full list.

----- Lone Wolf AKA Powerslave My Kung-Fu is the best.

"It was as if the lights dimmed just for him." - Steve Buscemi, Desperado

"Into the flood again... same old trip it was back then... so I made a big mistake... try to see it once my way..." - Alice in Chains, "Would"

"Just because you ARE a character doesn't mean that you HAVE character." - Winston Wolf (Harvey Keitel), Pulp Fiction

In Big Gay Al it was obvious that chef had no use for the little wanker either.

Nostalgia is like a grammar lesson: You find the present tense and the past perfect.

• Anal Probe (catches Cartman's fart-fire) (but is he introduced yet? hm.)
• Big Gay Al (has to play football without helmet, gets bloodied)
• Cartman's birthday episode

Any others? Seems like that's about it.

If you remember in damien, they said Cartman, used to be a looser but was called cool because he picked on Pip and spit on him and all that mean shit.

-me

Bill K. wrote:

In article , D'arcy007 writes:

That's because he followed Mr. Mackies' bad advice; never retaliate and be super passive to everyone.

I like pip

Lone Wolf (Chris Baile) wrote in article ... On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 23:02:30 -0400, "MaskedMan" wrote:

It's a joke.

The ignorant youths of South Park know Pip is somehow foreign, and pretty much just picked a European country at random and decided that's where they thought he was from... they hate Pip, and thus don't care enough about him to really find out what his story is.

----- Lone Wolf AKA Powerslave My Kung-Fu is the best.

"It was as if the lights dimmed just for him." - Steve Buscemi, Desperado

"Into the flood again... same old trip it was back then... so I made a big mistake... try to see it once my way..." - Alice in Chains, "Would"

"Just because you ARE a character doesn't mean that you HAVE character." - Winston Wolf (Harvey Keitel), Pulp Fiction

The simple fact of the matter is that Pip is different, and little kids usually make fun of something or someone they can't understand or relate to. When I was in third grade I told my best friend (who wasn't at the time) I came from the Philippines, which are made of islands. She started teasing me about the island part, asking me if I lived in a hut and wore a grass skirt. She didn't know any better. Kids are mean, vicious, ignorant little bastards. Simple as that. -Toni

MaskedMan wrote:

Funny how they show more tolerance towards a black Ethiopian wearing just a cloth around his crotch.

On Thu, 20 Aug 1998 02:49:10 GMT, "Bill K." wrote:

Yeah, but the Ethiopian sounds cool when he talks.

And he comes with a free watch,

----- Lone Wolf AKA Powerslave My Kung-Fu is the best.

"It was as if the lights dimmed just for him." - Steve Buscemi, Desperado

"Into the flood again... same old trip it was back then... so I made a big mistake... try to see it once my way..." - Alice in Chains, "Would"

"Just because you ARE a character doesn't mean that you HAVE character." - Winston Wolf (Harvey Keitel), Pulp Fiction

Bill K. wrote:

Maybe it's because he can make a really cool clicking noise with his tongue. -Toni

Yep. I can totally relate here. Kids also pick on those who aren't assertive (like Pip) and don't stand up for themselves. I remember, earlier this year, I was a quiet, unassertive, goody-two-shoes type, similar to Pip. Some asshole started spreading rumors about me, saying I cheat in order to be the #1 ranked academically in the class (which I *DIDN'T* ever do, and never would). Well, that was just ruining my reputation, so that really got me upset. But, one day, as this kid was tormenting me, saying, "So, how does it feel being a cheater now?" Well, I don't really know what happened to me next, but it was definitely for the better. I said, first really calmly, "Well, it can't possibly feel any better than this!", and I shoved that asshole right into the door. Then, as he was getting to his feet, absolutely shocked about what I did, I said, "Oh, and by the way, Merry Christmas. You better enjoy it now, because if you keep spreading these rumors about me (he also started one that I was a slut, which I definitely am *NOT*) your New Year is gonna be living hell! So don't fuck with me!" Needless to say, after Christmas vacation, I didn't hear anything from him or his followers ever again. And, since that time, I've been able to stand up for myself and everything. No one has picked on me since then, and gotten away with it. (I've put the school bully in her place, silenced the kid who terrorized both the teacher and kids in our homeroom, and many other good deeds for the betterment of humankind). If Pip would stand up for himself, then he wouldn't be bugged.

~Kyle Broslofski~

Kyle Broslofski wrote:

Wow. :) That was great what you did. My hat's off to you :) People in school can be such dicks, and one has to stand up for themselves. I was lucky during high school and elem school I was basically a wallflower, so no one ever really picked on me or spread rumors about me (not that I know of). My little sis used to be kind of meek and quiet too. She wouldn't fight because she thought it wasn't nice and she'd get in trouble with the teacher, but we told her to fight back and if she explained to the teacher she didn't start it, she'd be fine. Well now she does. The other kids won't dare mess with her. One time (she told me) this girl wanted to start something so she started pushing her against a tree. My sis got pissed and fought back. She went "POW!" and she fell to the ground. Her retainer went flying. She stood up and tried to sneak up behind her but my sis did a back hand fist "POW!" like the babboon Rafiki did in the Lion King. At any rate, from then on, she never messed with my sis again. -Toni

Ms. Toni Dimayuga wrote:

Why, thank you! :)

Woohoo! She gets a cookie! ;)

~Kyle Broslofski~

Hey Kyle...are you in middle school or high school? Cuz it sounds like your in middle school. About the whole cheating thing...unless you stole someone's essay getting the answer to a question from a classmate isn't a biggie. -me

Kyle Broslofski wrote:

Aargh! I dunno what is considered high school or middle school. That whole episode happened last school year, 9th grade (which is considered, in my school, high school, but then I've heard that in some schools 9th grade is considered middle school).

Cuz it sounds like your

I didn't cheat at all--and it wasn't anything about getting one answer or something. This kid said I had all the answers to a Spanish quiz written down on my hand and copied off of it during the quiz(you see, our quizzes were just a picture, and you'd have to write the Spanish words down of what each picture was), which I did not do at all. And, since I was ranked #1 in my class, everyone started having no respect for me, thinking I just got there by cheating, instead of doing it fairly. Not only that, but that kid was trying to convince the teachers that I cheat at everything (luckily, they didn't believe him because they saw through him--the other kids didn't see through that shit because they all worship him for some weird reason)

~Kyle Broslofski~

Yes! Go girlie! I happen to be the current Pip wherever I go..<sigh> A few boys I like to call "Cartman's offspring" and/or "Cartman's spawn" (they are also South Park fans, and give us very bad names) seem to enjoy making me feel like an idiot..and I don't know why it bothers me, as everyone knows they're jerks. <sigh> Marguerrite, Hunter of the Infamous Matt and Trey (they call me Kim, but I know better) Aka Crabtree-Norn "Sit down and shut up!" "&^*$ Censorship!"-originated on alt.tv.southpark

GUMPELS wrote:

Hehe! Thanks!

I happen to be the current Pip wherever I go..<sigh> A few

I know what ya mean there...most of the people who bug me are just a bunch of jerks, but it still gets to me, causing me to go into a weird rampage, stomping around really pissed off, kicking the asses of anyone who is being a bastard.

~Kyle Broslofski~

In article , "MaskedMan" writes:

I only recall them acusing him of being french in the dodgeball episode.

They says he's French on SP cause they know it pisses him off. Pip is an English name BTW, like in Great Expectations.