Brainwashed by the liar Stossel?

The timing of this episode is a little too close to that right-wing hack piece by John Stossel. The first thing I thought while watching was that Matt&Trey ate that s#!t sandwich and had another! Stossel is an ADMITTED LIAR, remember that next time he fouls the airwaves.

Yeah, but Matt & Trey are ADMITTED LIARS too.

PZB

Just like anyone who believes the liar Stossel. Poppy Z. Brite wrote in message news:[email]...

What the hell are you talking about?

"" wrote:

"New shit has come to light."-The Dude

A couple of weeks ago the liar Stossel had a hack piece on ABC about how kids are being "brainwashed" by environmentalists about the the dangers of pollution. It was not without it's own controversy. It was a total ambush. First, he didn't let the school where he appeared know that HE was the one to interview the children. Second, he asked leading questions over and over (which was edited out) and only had the entire group answer, basically, manipulating the entire group. As for his status as a LIAR, last year he did a hack piece about organic vegetables. He stated findings about pesticide residue in organic vegetables from a study that never existed, in other words, HE MADE THE WHOLE THING UP! He had to make a retraction, thanks to the corporate media most people have never heard about it. I used to have respect for that scumsucker when he was a consumer reporter, but now I see he's just a hack.

Jesus Quintana wrote in message news:[email]...

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A couple of weeks ago the liar Stossel had a hack piece on ABC about how

And dittoeheads have held him up as a martyr of "the liberal media" (that doesn't exist except in the imaginations of loonies who name all their pets Erick).

"D.G. Porter" wrote in message news:[email]...

The Devil's greatest trick is to convince the world that he doesn't exist.

Apparently the devil is alive and well and controlling the CORPORATE media, with the help of Rupert Murdoch.

LooseChanj wrote in message news:hRp67.46509$[email]...

On Sun, 22 Jul 2001 01:27:59 GMT, "<spyre09>" wrote:

Yeah, the devil's entire agenda is simply that a person does not believe that Jesus Christ is the messiah, god, savior, ticket to heaven etc. That is how the devil wins. The devil has no agenda for the world to be evil or anything or to really influence the media (except to make it appear more that Jesus was not the Christ) , its only to do that one thing. If the devil did not exist, it follows that there is no Christ (as in being the Lord) since it would nullify the possible truth of that faith, so that comes under pretty much the same thing and something he'd also want. To the devil, or if the Christians are right, it makes no difference if you are agnostic or athiest or worship the devil because it all comes down the the same thing = you are not a christian.

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"" wrote:

LooseChanj wrote:

Very true. All the bullshit this d g fella is posting is starting to look like trolling to me.

"Mainstream commercial nihilism can't be trusted?"-Calvin

"Jesus Quintana" wrote in message news:[email]...

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Sounds more like typical liberal brainwashing bullshit, exactly like the guys in the latest episode. *We* don't do that...*we've* been demonized by the *republicans*...D.G.'s been around here for awhile, so I'm not about to call him a troll, but he is using tactics which would befit one to push his political views. There's another one in hyah, but I've got her killfiled. *waves at Cheryl*

Well, "we" don't. And we have. You remember James Watt, Reagan's first Interior Secretary? Paraphrase: "Let's use all our resources up now because Jesus is coming soon and there won't be any future generations after that."

Frankly, I found the idea of "environmentalists" hacking peoples' arms off and getting away with it to be pretty ridiculous, but so is feeding a kid his parents and getting away with it.

BTW, I've been an "environmentalist" since 1967 or so. In high school we went on a long field trip over a weekend, studying up close various habitats -- Chapparal, Alpine, Desert, etc. -- and these were the days when that asshole Reagan was saying we didn't need to preserve any redwoods.

What are you, some Republican or something?

Methinks it's YOU who's been brainwashed! You grow up inna Eighties or somethin'?

What do you expect from someone who lets a cartoon influence his opinions? Isn't it funny how everyone forgot that quote by James Watt?

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What do you expect from someone who lets a cartoon influence his opinions?

In the interest of accuracy, I wanted to be clear that I was paraphrasing Watt's confirmation testimony. It was more like, after being asked by a Senaor if he believed we shold not go after all our natural resources "rightnow"but save some for future generations, Watt said something muchlike, "Senator, I don't know how many more future generations there are going to be after the Second Coming."

AND HE WAS SERIOUS!!!!!

Then there was a speech he gave, I forget to whom, where he berated "liberals" as this and that, really laying on the slime and tar, ending with this bizaarre deliver of the line, "Republicans ... taaaaaake caaaaaaaaare ..." What utter shit. He didn't want to take any care, he wanted to bulldoze every goddam inch.

I was a Pacifica programmer for years, and I know there are a lot of loonies out there who SEEM to be "on the left," but they aren't, and since I'm still kicking at old-school liberalism, I'm not going to stop bashing these Republicans until the REAL LOONS are exposed.

It really wasn't vey fair to depict "environmentalists" as arm-choppers. We get enough of the "wacko" and "kook" bullshit from the far-reichwing loons as it is. People who not only don't like animals, they hate them. (Except dogs, because you can control a dog.)

As far as Earth Day goes, I just did an arrangement of Tom Lehrer's "Pollution" (1964) for a quartet of "very nice" church musicians which they plan to work up by then. FWIW.

(snip)

Only "the breakfast garbage you throw into the bay, they drink for lunch in San Jose" doesn't seem all that funny anymore.

Remember, just two rules as you travel around the US: 1. don't drink the water, and 2. don't breath the air:-)

LiamD

For here I changed it to "...that you throw into the tide, They drink at lunch in Oceanside." Just south of Camp Pendleton too.

This lead sheet was terrible. It came from an "Earth Day" songbook and they had it all wrong. It didn't have the rhythms right, and worse, it was engraved with ugly Finale! I put the usual Porter madness into my realization (these musicians can't improvise from a lead sheet w/chord symbols) and restored Lehrer's idiosyncracies.

"Poisoning Pigeons in the Park" still brings a smile to me...

LOL, that's why certain works are considered classics.

LiamD

So Environmentalism is such a sacred cow that we cant make fun of its more extreme members?

Its that mentality that causes some of them to be made fun of in the first place

Ron Chambless Pilot C-340 - Weather Modification Edwards Aquifer Precipitation Enhancement Program

I just thought arm-hacking was a bit *bizarre*. Of course, I'm fully aware that this is a show where Cartman can set up two people to get shot and drag their bodies off and cook them and not be thrown into jail by even a nitwit like Barbrady, so arm-hackers can also go unnoticed and kids can jack off dogs...

OK, now I want an episode making fun of assholes who don't like cats ("They rub up against me and stare at me!"), snakes ("I'm scared of that snake fifty feet away! Get it out of the room!"), birds ("They flutter in my face!") and hamsters ("They smell bad!"). But dogs are OK ("I can control my dog!").

It was bizarre, but then isnt this whole show rather bizarre at times? Thats
the whole appeal of it.  I have an Environmental Science degree, and I thought
the those environmental fanatics were funny, since I have seen lots of people
of that type.    Especially the comment "These people wont listen to logic and
reason" being applied to them..    We have probably all see Environmentalists
whose degree of activism depends on the cuteness of the animals being
protected, and whose arguments are solely emotion and pictures, and not logic
and science.

Well hopefully SP will be around long enough to spoof them all

Ron Chambless Pilot C-340 - Weather Modification Edwards Aquifer Precipitation Enhancement Program

Yeah, like the one that gave me a C in college, mainly because I had the audacity to suggest alternative points of view. For example: "Okay class, let's go around the circle [yes -- we sat outside in a friggin' circle 'to be closer to nature' -- never mind that there streets everywhere and buses roaring by every 5 minutes] and have everyone say what we should do with the 'peace dividend.'" (For those who don't know, the 'peace dividend' was the money saved by decreasing the defense budget in the very late 80s / early 90s.)

Hippie 1: "I think we should use it to prevent global warming!" Hippie 2: "We should take that money and research more solar power." Me: "We should not spend it on anything at all. Aren't we running a deficit every year that is billions of dollars? Isn't the national debt in the trillions?" Rest of class: Frowns & silence.

LOL! Well, FWIW, I say spend a little of it on all 3! But I said "Bring down the debt" years ago and a lot of REPUBLICANS frowned at me!

FTR, those are either actual quotes (which I remember well) or paraphrases( when I forget this guy's exact words) of someone we know. He didn't like our cat, and he actually said that about birds. Regarding the snake, he (age 47) was in the store with his mommy and there was this guy way off afar wearing his pet boa (altho' I agree with Jimmy and Adam about guys who wear their snakes) and this guy was getting ballistic -- "I'm gonna complain to the manager! Snakes are dirty!" BTW this guy is blind and has a guide dog, and frankly I think he abuses hs dog sometimes (and others apparently have agreed with me in the past). I heard a story from a mutual friend that around 1973 she first met him at CSU Long Beach, where he was making a huge stink out of nothing -- someone had commented on his "seeing-eye dog" and he went into a dither because it was a "guide dog" -- "DOES ANYONE HERE SEE A SEEING-EYE DOG!?" he yelled at the crowd. "I DON'T SEE A SEEING-EYE DOG! THIS IS NOT A SEEING-EYE DOG! DO YOU SEE A SEEING-EYE DOG ANYWHERE!!?" As if anyone else cared!

Trey and Matt, this really happened!

In article , "D.G. Porter" writes:

It appears that you are the real loon, D G.

BTW, whatever does this weird rant of yours have to do with South Park, (not to mention real life)?

Look who's talking... you don't even know what James Watt said during his confirmation hearings... think I make stuff like that up...

Fucking Xer...

"D.G. Porter" wrote in message news:[email]...

You do, and you haven't. Ok, try to defend the argument "I am righteous, because the other side is dirty". Bullshit.

Er, no.

I pretty much expected this. It's called "projection", D.G., you call someone else something you can't face in yourself.

What the fuck does this have to do with South Park anyhow? Fuck off with the political shit already.

LooseChanj wrote:

My thoughts exactly.

"Maybe you guys need to drink more beer."-Calvin

Straw man, ffoney argument. The other side is definitely dirty, but I still have to act righteous to be righteous. If you can agree that the GOP leadership -- Armey, DeLay, and others, Kyl, Hayworth, Barr (that asshole), Mica, an a few retireds -- Newty, Livingston, Deukmajian, Wilson and of course Trickey and Reagan - are either evil or unde he will of the evil ones, then you and I are of one mind. Now Dems -- as Christopher Hitchens said at UCLA in '89 -- "They're too fucking polite!" Plus they're whiney wussies. (Altho' Pubs like Barr whine a lot too.)

Oh fuck that shit. Prithee, what be-eth it I cannot face within my self? Come on, I'm waiting... I chose the '80s because that was the great age of worshiping ignorance. Too many kids have bought into that happy-shit.

Well, too fucking bad. SP is definitely a political show.

I'm for that... reefer would be nice too...

"D.G. Porter" wrote in message news:[email]...

So start already.

No, it was the age when anyone with a bit of sense realized what fucking morons they'd been in the 60's, realized smoking pot and talking shit about the establishment was pretty damn worthless, and accepted the fact they were gonna have to work for a living.

Oh please. It's about 4 foul mouthed little brats in a podunk mountain town. So anything with the slightest semblence of a moral is "political"?

Finally something we can all agree on.

<bluster> I take exception to that statement! (Got anything to smoke?)

But both Dems & Repubs are obsessed with fighting the incredibly immoral and wasteful "drug war." I think we all know where Libertarians stand on this issue. And no -- I don't mean we all want to get high all day, but that government should not be involved in this sort of matter. It is shameful and disgusting what is being done to millions of citizens in this country in the name of the drug war. You don't have to support drug use to be anti-drug war, iow.

Similarly -- and no debate about abortion itself please -- many Libertarians are pro-life (not me), but ultimately want pro-choice policies because they don't feel government should be involved in that matter either.

In article , "Bao H. Lammy" writes:

You HAD to bring that up, didn't you?

In article , "LooseChanj" writes:

Unfortunately, we're still feeling the consquences of the actions from the actions of these morons' actions. When will the baby boomers die already so we can start fixing up their messes?

Look, an Xer who thinks his shit doesn't stink too.

NOW you're going to complain to DG about being OT in alt.tv.southpark? Pulease.

LiamD

In article , "ChumpChanj" writes:

Wow, ChumpChanj and I agreed on something; Imagine that!

You might as well save your breath, they're beyond reason.

LiamD

In article , "D.G. Porter" writes:

Cite sources, please. I'm sure you can't, as you made it up.

Of course I'd expect you to say that, 20 year after he said it to the Senate committee that he appeared before. It was a well-aired soundbite. No need for me to make it up, but obviously you have a need to deny Reagan would pick anyone stupid enough to say something like that.

<<You remember James Watt, Reagan's first Interior Secretary? Paraphrase: "Let's use all our resources up now because Jesus is coming soon and there won't be any future generations after that.">>

I remember that.

It was, oh, so comforting to know that Reagan had surrounded himself with born-again nuts.

And wasn't it Watt who also told that racist joke about the three things that black people want? Or was that another Reagan appointee?

In article ,

     In a press conference where he was defending the amount of racial
diversity in the Reagan administration ( I think, I don't really know the
context. ) he said about his staff something like, "Well I have a black, a
woman, two Jews and a cripple, and we all have talent."  That remark was
treated as the last straw of a lot of anti-Watt sentiment, and he soon
resigned.
     Trivia:  Watt wasn't even right.  One of the Jews was the cripple ( He
had a paralyzed right arm, I think, like Dole ).  The last member of his staff
was just a plain old WASP. :-)
     BTW:  Actually wasn't it Manual Lujan, a Bush Sr Interior secretary,
who was a creationist?

That was Nixxon's� Interior Secretary Earl Butz. He told the joke to Pat Boone and John Dean, not knowing Dean was reporting on that trip for a publication. (Boone gulped audibly.) "Loose shoes, tight pussy and a warm place to shit."

Thanks for setting the record straight.

<<> > And wasn't it Watt who also told that racist joke about the three things that black people want? Or was that another Reagan appointee?>>

<<That was Nixxon's� Interior Secretary Earl Butz. He told the joke to Pat Boone and John Dean, not knowing Dean was reporting on that trip for a publication. (Boone gulped audibly.) "Loose shoes, tight pussy and a warm place to shit." >>

Right, right, right! Many thanks for the correction. Nixon, Reagan, I get them all mixed up...

Again, Nixxon's� Interior Secretary Earl Butz. See my other reply. Butz was drunk as usual...

It was Earl Butts; but he was Ford's Sec'y of Acriculture, not a Raygun appointee.

LiamD

No, he was Nixxon's� ("Nixxon� -- where newer and stranger perversions and obfuscations of the language are invented!"). Butz was an asshole. His talk was all about "the farmer" -- but not the small-time family farmer, the agribusiness giant swallowing them up. The "family farmer" was invoked whenever he was lauding "small-town values," "Heartland culture" and the like. Places that never experienced the Roaring Twenties or The Jazz Age (all big-city phenomena, eschewed by those small town cultural leaders). Places where "we don't smoke marijuana ... and we don't take our trips on LSD." Places where young teen boys with crew cuts and T-shirts pounded the shit out of black dudes trying to sit at their lunch counters. Places that will take another 20 years to catch up with the last 100 years of the rest of American culture (such as it is). Places still fighting Rat Buchanan's "culture war for the hart and sole of Amerika."

Nixxon� hired him, but he was working for Ford at the time. He even got mentioned in Saturday Night Live's "Weekend Update", which was definitely after Nixxon� had left office. Jane Curtin paraphrased him as "loose shoes, good sex & a warm place to go to the bathroom".

LiamD

There is no "liberal media." There is "media that sells whaever is being bought." Right now people are buying bullshit. You've got an asshole or three like Reed Irvine -- "Accuracy [NOT] in Meida" running around telling you, "The media aren't supporting us right-wing LOONS! It's liberally-biased!!" Or Stuart McBirney running around looking at commies under your bed. They're so far out in right field that theyleft the ballpark ages ago, walked three miles down the block and hid behind the Maxi Mart! And they say anything even CLOSE to the ballpark is "radical leftist"! -- forget still being IN the ballpark! What a joke! Look at "Crossfire" or "Capital Gang" -- you got some LOON like Bob Novak (drunk a usual) supposedly balanced by "leftists" like Mark Shields and Al Hunt -- HA!!! We used to call people like Shields "moderate Republicans"! Then you've got the Trots, supposedly "on the true left" -- who are no different than Republicans like DeLay and Armey except maybe more honest. You guys here, you wouldn't know a real "leftist" if he bit you on the ass! THERE IS NO REAL "LEFT" LEFT IN AMERICA ANYMORE!

It's ok LooseChanj, I had my eyes closed.

"D.G. Porter" wrote:

In article , Jesus Quintana writes:

You guys are only now realizing this?

We all know he exists. He goes by Nyarlothotep. Hey, I think YOU'RE Nyarlothotep!

(snip)

That's not so odd! Kemel Attaturk had an entire menagerie all named "Abdul".

LiamD

(Mrs., retired)

In article , Liam Devlin wrote:

No 'e didn't.

I stand corrected -- someone at least DID get the Erick ref!

Thank you, please be so kind as to ignore my more recent post, same topic.

LiamD

Duly noted!

Did, did, did, did, did & did. "Kemel Attaturk, the Man", by AE Swinton, with a foreword by Paul Anka.

Liamd (excuse any spelling problems)

In article , Liam Devlin wrote:

I still won't sell you a fish license; you don't NEED one.

Hah! I'm falling for that one. I've got a license for me pet dog, Eric, me pet cat, Eric, and I bloody well want one for me pet fish, Eric.

LiamD

I'm *not* falling for that (of course)

LD

Excuse me, do you know where I can get a license for my fish?

It isn't named Erik, is it?

Is he an halibut?

I chose him out of thousands. I didn't like the others; they were all too flat.

PZB

You don't need a license for your pet fish.

LiamD

Then I would like a statement to that effect from the Lord Mayor.

PZB

If I can't get you one from the Lord Mayor, would you accept one from the Ministry of Housinge instead?

-Laura

"Housinge"? You must be very observant.

PZB

Not really. I just have a knack for remembering completely useless snippets of Monty Python sketches :-)

-Laura

Yeah, but you know ... "Housinge?" "It was spelt that way on the van. I'm very observant."

One of my favorite lines, as it has absolutely nothing to do wth anything.

PZB

That's funny. I remembered the housinge part, but not the very observant part. My brain works in ways that I can't even begin to explain.

Laura

So much for the "very observant" part, eh, Erik?

LiamD :-)

You're in luck, here he comes now.

You are a looney.

-Laura

Why should I be tarred with the epithet "looney" merely because I wsh to buy a license for my pet fish?

PZB

Look, it's people like you what cause unrest.

"Poppy Z. Brite" wrote in message news:[email]...

buy a

Shouldn't that be halibut?

In article , "<spyre09>" writes:

Actually, they are. This environmental propoganda is pure Chicken Little chicanary some leftist anti-capitalist dreamed up and has no basis in reality whatsoever.

Why don't you do a little research on your boy James Watt?

<<Why don't you do a little research on your boy James Watt?>>

Or his satanic disciple, Gail Norton.

In article , "<spyre09>" writes:

Mmm, drugs are BAD, mmkay?