Forgive me for not really watching a lot of 80's movies. I was born in 1978 and really didn't care for those movies, I was playing video games.
SOUTH PARK in ASPEN!
This ep had the look of about 1/2 dozen 80's movies and one or two after school specials. I got only one real joke ("Quaid...start the reactor!" TOTAL RECALL), but so many are over my head. A little help here?
Who was this 22-year veteran skier a parody of? What was the bit with the youth center? Heather?
I loved the bit on the TIME SHARE! That was great. A buddy of mine at work got roped into a similar deal, but it was for an extra night in Jamaica ...if he attends a brief "evaluation" period...to tell of his time.. actually a presentation. He got to thinking how the numbers made sense, how he could do it, and so on. He came to his senses. Those timeshare people didn't have guns.
It's DRIVING ME NUTS!!! What are the songs that they play while Stan trains for "the big race". And whats the song that plays at the end credits. I know it. God. Damn you South Park. Any help out there. AGGGHHHH.
The song while Stan trains was created for the show... listen to the lyrics. They're all describing how to make a montage song to show time passing and improvement, while that's exactly what's going on. One of my favorite parts of the episode.
As for the ending credits, there was some weird stuff going on tonight compared to the original airing. The song is Take On Me. It plays in the beginning of the episode too. Now, in the original airing of this episode, the A Ha version played in the beginning with lyrics. Tonight's airing had no lyrics in the beginning. Also, the first time it aired, the ending was just the standard South Park ending. Tonight's ending had Take On Me playing again, except with someone else singing.
And, just to add this for no apparent reason... Reel Big Fish covered "Take On Me" in BASEketball.
On 07 Nov 2002 04:21:07 GMT, [email] (TimmyBrisby) wrote:
Opens with Aha's Take on Me
The song during the montage was an original - you can nail Trey's voice singing it in three seconds.
The song being played when the kids first arrive at the activity center was Safety Dance by Men Without Hats
Those were the only ones I payed attention to... don't know if there were any others I missed.
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We must be in trouble if we find the the reruns more interesting than the new episode! But I liked Asspen a lot, too. I found the episode really, really funny without having much of an idea what movies were being referenced, but in what movies have we seen these scenes before:
1. The plain girl is in love with the protagonist and helps him, but he doesn't notice at first.
2. Training/studying montage. I loved the words to the montage song in Asspen. Some of the Rocky movies have good montages, but I can't picture Rocky in a library. Maybe "Summer School" was an 80's movie that was an inspiration for that. I'm not sure.
3. A seemingly superior rival wins at first, but is eventually beaten. The Karate Kid movies, maybe? Top Gun?
4. A hangout/second home/whatever is in danger of being shut down by a power parent of one of the rival characters. I can think of a few movies with that plot cliche. Maybe Karate Kid II, Gung Ho...
I don't ever recall watching a skiing movie, though.
On Thu, 07 Nov 2002 14:03:52 GMT, Liam Devlin wrote:
There were a couple of skiing movies... besides Better Off Dead, "Hot Dog - the Movie" was one of the "biggest" ones. I've only seen bits and pieces on HBO though - never gave enough of a crap to watch the whole thing.
Point is - there are probably a few dozen movies from the 80's that have similar plots and themes.
Better Off Dead is DEFINITELY the best of the bunch.
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The "hangout in danger of being closed" scene was lifted from "Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo", hence the mid 1980s breakdancers in that scene. I love Asspen as well. The most awesome scene is when all the families are driving through 1985 era Aspen, everyones all jazzed up and the action FREEZE FRAMES(!) and we get that snazzy early 80s looking "South Park in Aspen" graphic.
That type of stuff happened in all of those 80's Ski movies. There were no specific references to any one thing other then the "Quaid ... start the reactor."
They all had the same premises with those stupid little music training montages. See "Better Off Dead", "Hot Dog the Movie", "Ski School." I mean, there's a ton of them. M&T are too funny.
On Thu, 07 Nov 2002 04:09:33 GMT, Dark Angel wrote:
The "bad guy" from Better off Dead (John Cusack movie)
Just a running plot that was used in a lot of 80's movies. Bad guy wants to close youth center/nursing home/local club/etc. so the good guy races the bad guys equally bad son.
Atypical 80's love interest - offbeat good looks, sweet, embarrassed to reveal her feelings to the main character, etc.
Yeah, that was a bit of a stretch, but I should've seen it coming. The time share guys were really getting annoying - and I don't just mean to the parents.
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It actually does make sense if you travel often and demand deluxe level accommodations. If you are the type that goes out all day on vacations and just comes back to the hotel to crash, timeshares are definitely not for you. Also, no matter what you are told, they are not good investments. They are simply deluxe accommodations at a good price, and you can trade yours for others, etc. The salespeople are extremely aggressive and try to sell them to everyone. That is true. However, they are a smart choice for some people.
No, they are not. You obviously don't know anyone who owns any and knows how to use the system correctly. You have to be a frequent traveler and demand the kind of rooms that normally would cost over $100 a night. Most people don't care about that. Those that do, those who want 5-star accomodations at Tahoe for a week that includes multiple bedroom suites, pools, kitchens, entertainment centers, dining rooms, etc. for a week -- those are the people for whom timeshares make sense.
I made a fair assessment of timeshares -- noting that they are not for most people even thought they are pushed at everyone. If you refuse to listen to reason, so be it. You only show your own ignorance.
On Sun, 17 Nov 2002 10:18:25 -0600, "Bao H. Lammy" wrote:
I'm not a fan of timeshares, but I have sort of backed into ownership of one through my girlfriend (she got it when her mom died). Timeshares make sense if you have a family, can ensure that you'll be able to take your vacation during your week, and don't mind going to the same place every year. Of course with the bigger timeshare companies you can trade in your week for someplace else, if space is available. It seems like a good deal, but the nice places fill up so far in advance that it really isn't useful unless you do your vacation planning a year or more in advance. (Full disclosure, we did use a traded-in week from several years ago this past month at a very nice place in the Berkshires. The yearly fee is about what one night in a B&B would have cost. Of course we did this last minute, and of 40-50 possible places we were interested in, this was one of only 3 that had any rooms.) I have no desire to buy a timeshare, and I think that timeshare marketers are all a bunch of donkey-raping shit-eaters, but it doesn't mean that the concept is terrible. (If you're really interested in affordable vacation property, check out vacation condos owned by the tenants, you'll often be able to get a 1/4 share for not that much more than your 1/52nd share you get with a timeshare.)
It's not important to have a family, imo. Why do you think it is? A single person could easily use a timeshare effectively, or even a couple with no children.
It's usually pretty easy to switch your week...
Yes, if you do buy, always go with the bigger companies, like RCI [sic?], II, Hilton, and Marriot. I've never heard of much trouble finding open places to switch to, but mileage varies as usual. Of great importance is how highly rated *your* timeshare is; Christmas week in Las Vegas is hard to trade away while New Year's week is very valuable and easy to trade, for example. btw, I don't own any, but my parents own at least 4 weeks in various places such as Vegas, Orlando, Hilton Head, S.C., etc. The family never stops hearing about how great they think their timeshares are, and we are shown directly when they invite us to come along.
Exactly correct.
Never heard of them...anyway, another good idea is to buy timeshares directly from owners who no longer want them (or can't afford to keep up the payments, which happens to many poorer folks suckered into buying when they can't afford them).
Finally, a little-known fact about timeshares is that you are often offered (with no obligation whatsoever) to "buy" a week in totally different places -- though just for that week that year. The deals are often incredible. For example, my parents stayed in Tahoe for a week on one of these bonus offers, which didn't affect their actual week at all. I believe they stayed at the Ridge (5 stars) for an entire week for under $250. Their suite had multiple bedrooms, kitchen, dining room, entertainment center, big screen TV, and the master bedroom had its own hot tub -- not just a communal one near a swimming pool used by everyone staying there.
On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 20:07:44 -0600, "Bao H. Lammy" wrote:
I don't think most single folks or even couples really appreciate the larger unit sizes with a condo vs. a hotel. For a weekend with another couple or something I do prefer a 2-bedroom unit or larger, but if it's just my girlfriend and I, we're just as happy with a hotel room (well, maybe an effeciency).
Yeah, that may be true, but it does become a hassle, and if you want to go somewhere other than your home unit, you'll have to pay more AND find something open.
Again, I think it's personal preference. I've been to all of those places and they certainly aren't places where I would prefer to vacation. That may be a large part of my issue with timeshares, they are marketed to the masses, and I don't neccessarily have mass-market tastes. I absolutely DESPISE my gf's condo home, in the Poconos in PA. In my experience, the majority of timeshares are in places where I really have no desire to be. (That being said, the place we stayed two weeks ago in South Lee MA had a great location, decent facilities, and acceptable units.)
Basically, in less-developed (and more exclusive) resort areas, you can often find condos that don't have any timeshare setup. The units are fairly cheap, and if you go in on a unit with 3 other groups, you can get it once a month for not much more than your once a year timeshare. I know my parents wanted me to go in on one with them (hmmm, I live 2500 miles away, i wonder who would use my weeks) and it was about 25% more than prices I see for one week timeshares.
Hmmmm, now Tahoe is one of the few condo hotspots I really like. I'll have to check into that. Again, I have no desire to buy a timeshare, but since I've sort of backed into it, I'm not going become Inspector Sandy Vagina or anything.
In article , Ben Raines wrote: #>What was the bit with the youth center? # #That would be the obligatory business/house that's #in danger of being foreclosed unless the rent is paid.