Sure took their sweet time in reporting it, didn't they? jeez! That's "The Media" for ya:
Mary Kay on Exite News
Nov 19, 199940 posts by 17 posters
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Another reason for people not to keep GUNS in their homes.
D.G. Porter said...
Never mind the fact that the CDC report released this week states that gun-related deaths (homicides, suicides, accidentals) are down some 21% and gun-related injuries (nonfatal) are down about 41% in 1997 as compared to 1993.
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/19991118/hl/psb_1.html
Keeping guns in the home is not the problem. Keeping guns *properly* in the home is the problem.
Tirya registered gun owner
Why shoot someone when you can beat them with a big stick and inflict pain? But yeah I'm completely ANTI-gun in homes.
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Yeah- if a burglar comes into your house you can whup them with a stick and say, "BAD! That's a bad Mr. Burglar!"
-Toni
Millasur wrote:
LOL.
You come up with all the best comments!
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say, "BAD! That's a bad Mr. Burglar!"
-Toni
Dude-I've read 3 of your posts so far, and in all 3 of them you cut out the original message, so I have no clue what you're responding to.
-Toni
Millasur wrote:
On Tue, 23 Nov 1999 22:11:27 -0800, Toni wrote:
The original message was there.
Right here.
Sorry but I hate it when I have to scroll to read posts.
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original message, so I have no clue what you're responding to.
-Toni
Thanks dude! Oh and btw, I didn't see that you were responding to my post. Sorry I criticized you like that about the posting of the original message. If I scrolled down a bit more I would have seen it :-)
-Toni
Millasur wrote:
We've had rifles and guns in our house for as long as I remember, and both my brother and I attempted suicide, without using the guns, go figure! Tho truthfully, I think a huge rifle case in the house is unsightly. KyleIke13~ (http://kyleike.8m.com) "When you're unemployed, weekends are meaningless!" ~ Stuart McCormick "Oh no! I'm not SANE YET!" ~ Kyle
In article , [email] (otherwise known as HippiChk79) wrote:
If y'all had been serious, you'd have used them. Gestures! Wimps.
Time to do a SP on suicide.
Dude I was twelve. How was I to know the best methods for suicide?
In article , [email] (otherwise known as HippiChk79) wrote:
Just as well, then. Twelve-year-olds shouldn't commit suicide.
There ya go =)
On Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:52:45 -0600, [email] (Howard S Shubs) wrote:
I have to ask. At what age IS it "proper" to commit suicide?
In article , [email] wrote:
When I find out, I'll let you know.
Actually, I don't think it's an "age" thing, but rather a "need" thing. And it seems to me unlikely that a 12-year-old could have the need.
I had a rather shitty childhood/adolescenthood/present time so I felt rather justified. The day I tried it, I had called my mom to get me out of school cause I couldn't take taking people's crap anymore that day...I did that alot in school. Faked sick to go home. KyleIke13~ (http://kyleike.8m.com) "When you're unemployed, weekends are meaningless!" ~ Stuart McCormick "Oh no! I'm not SANE YET!" ~ Kyle
On Mon, 22 Nov 1999 02:41:56 GMT, [email] wrote:
75+
The wheelchair/adult diaper/kidney dialysis years.
"You can have those years! I don't fuckin want 'em!" - Dennis Leary
----- Lone Wolf I did it all for the nookie.
"Dr. Ruth's pussy is so old it's got mice." - Jeffrey Ross
"Forget pathetisad... is 'weirdork' a word?" "I dunno... is sarcastabitch a word?" - Kate and Drew, The Drew Carey Show
Like the movie "Ordinary People", the Timothy Hutton character attempts suicide and one of the EMT guys says "vertical cuts, he was serious". How'd he know to make vertical cuts? I've always envisioned the cuts were horizontal, i.e., across the wrist; but what do I know?
Bill Lynch :-)
I've always envisioned the cuts were horizontal, i.e., across the wrist; but what do I know?
otherwise known as HippiChk79 wrote:
I think it has to do with the fact that if you cut more of the vein, it prevents the clotting.
Lesley
"Every turkey dies, not every turkey truly lives." - Chef
The troublesome one said...
The way I heard it, slitting your wrists vertically instead of horizontally allows the blade to get between the tendons of the wrist (instead of crossing the tough suckers) and increases the likelihood that the blade will penetrate deeply enough to hit an artery. If you just go horizontal at the wrist, the blade can't get deep enough to do sufficient damage to the blood vessels, unless you have a really sharp blade, a really strong cut, or the wherewithal to saw at the wrist tendons.
Tirya
tirya piped up with....
Going down the arm (vertically) opens up more of the vein/artery, therefore making clotting a problem because of the amount of area of the vein/artery open. If you were to go horizontal, the cut would be only a small slit, therefore clotting is alot easier. One way to go horizontal and prevent clotting is keeping your arm immersed in water. This is commonly shown on TV and movies where the person will climb in the tub and slit their wrist. How do I know this? One of my roommates in college tried slicing his wrist and he went horizontal rather than vertical. Why did he do it? His girlfriend broke up with him. The college sent him home and arranged for consouling with a doctor in his hometown.
(snip)
I believe this was a preferred method for the Romans (for those not macho enough to fall on one's sword). The water is also warm/hot to encourage blood flow. There was a reference to this in "The Godfather, II", among others. The description was something like "get in a hot bath & open a vein".
Bill Lynch
PS: The those who explained why vertical and not horizontal, I understood the reasons when I heard it - just hadn't occurred to me before.
On Mon, 22 Nov 1999 15:43:16 -0500, Jack wrote:
Not only that, but the small slit is also alot easier to repair in surgery (if required) than a long slice all the way down.
In article , Cronos writes:
Okay, could we please maybe get a LITTLE more morbid? I don't think we've discussed the exact number of cubic centimeters of blood that must come out of the wrist for death to occur yet.
Is it an African or a European death? (Ref. to M.Python's "Holy Grail"...)
Jeremy B tried to go with:
How do you know so much about death?
Bill Lynch
On 26 Nov 1999 16:43:30 GMT, [email] (Jeremy B) wrote:
42.
;)
(just kidding)
----- Lone Wolf There's a reason that banana is in my ear. I'm trying to get the little monkey out of my head.
"No ticket." - Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade/Dogma
"Forget pathetisad... is 'weirdork' a word?" "I dunno... is sarcastabitch a word?" - Kate and Drew, The Drew Carey Show
(snip)
I don't think that's a constant. Probably depends on the total volume the person has, general state of health, can the body maintain blood pressure, etc. (probably a bunch more which I can't think of).
If you find it morbid, why don't you just kill the thread?
Bill Lynch
I think the blood would flow faster if you cut more of the vein. Kinda makes sense. Cutting an artery would be quick.
There's also the issue of clotting, and the long cut helps here. The amount of the blood flow probably depends more on the cross section of the vein than the length of the slit. The bigger veins contain smooth muscle which will clamp shut if severed. I don't think a long cut is very effective in the face of medical treatment, They'd just clamp it at the heart end of the slit and repair or replace with a graft.
This is all hypothetical, right, gang?
Bill Lynch
[email] (Howard S Shubs) wrote:
Sorry to flame here, but that statement was totally uncalled for. The poster was sharing something very personal and (probably) private. Please keep the rude, smart ass comments to yourself, since they do nothing to further the topic/posts.
Lesley
"Every turkey dies, not every turkey truly lives." - Chef
In article , [email] (The troublesome one) wrote:
I could say the same to you.
On Sun, 21 Nov 1999 11:21:17 -0600, [email] (Howard S Shubs) wrote:
It's been done. "Death" way back in season 1. Stan's Grandpa wants him to assist suicide. At the end, Stan's grandpa's grandpa appears to him and tells him that suicide is not the way out. Stan's grandpa then plans a trip to Africa so he can be attacked and eaten by lions.
----- Lone Wolf I did it all for the nookie.
"Dr. Ruth's pussy is so old it's got mice." - Jeffrey Ross
"Forget pathetisad... is 'weirdork' a word?" "I dunno... is sarcastabitch a word?" - Kate and Drew, The Drew Carey Show
In article , [email] (Lone Wolf) wrote:
Nah, that's more about age than about suicide.
Maybe they were the thoughtful types who didn't want to eat a bullet so the family would be spared the job of scraping brains off the ceiling? Many have said suicides are so selfish, here's someone showing some consideration and they get called "wimps". No pleasing some folks.
Bill Lynch
Stupid me, tried to suffocate myself while my mom was outside mowing the lawn.
funny...heh.
Don't get me started with the whole gun issue. If she wuz hell-bent on taking her own life, she woulda found some other way of doing it. You think the gun jumped out of it's guncase and TOLD her to use it? Whatta moron. Guard your guns people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[email] wrote: