...he said, on a Jerry Springer interview (last month), that South Park
is trash, shit (he was bleeped MULTIPLE times), vulgar, disgusting, and
should be taken off the air for those reasons. When Springer asked
Manson why he thought his music shouldn't be banned for the same
reasons, Manson said, "I agree, many people think my act is disgusting
and tasteless. But it's not on TV. Also, we're real people and
South Park is nothing but a bunch of animated children, and bad
animation at that. It's a bunch of [bleeped -- looked like "crap"].
I agree...South Park is shit and should be taken off the air.
Are you crazy? "South Park" is one of the very few good things on TV!! And I'd really like to know where you saw that interview, because Marilyn manson was not on the Jerry Springer Show at any moment during the last few months!!
On Mon, 06 Apr 1998 10:57:00 -0400, jakilaja wrote:
Hardly, I'm not one for censorship, since I do think someone who is mature enough to see south park should be able to. What I DO NOT think is ok is having a buncha 5th graders running around swearing their asses off and talking about dildos and pot pies in the same sentence. I used to think when I was younger, I'm 19 now, that you shouldn't shelter kids from that stuff. Now as more and more kids gun down other ones and then grow up to do it again, I have to sit back and wonder. As I said though, I do think the show is funny at times, but damn keep it away from the most impressionable kids it cannot be doing them *any* good.
I wholeheartedly agree! But let's not stop there. At the beginning of every Tiny Toons episode, the Elmer Fudd character gets an anvil dropped on him causing him to crash through the floor. More and more kids are dropping anvils, 1 ton weights, and other dense objects on other children. And how about classic literature? School age kid across the country that run away from home are getting the idea from Tom Sawyer. I say we lock the demonic little bastards in dark rooms until they mature to at least 19 years old. Either that or have a good old fashioned book, video, and TV burning!
Hey now slow down on the sarcasm, he had a good point about the 5th graders.
Though they certainly won't shoot guns like in the "Volcano" episode just
because the others do it, does'nt mean they won't start TALKING like Cartman.
I'm not lying...you don't think little kids like to TEST grown-ups? I bet that
some under-age kid watching SP is going to try the word "dildo", just because
they don't know its bad. Its like this girl in my town who calls people a
"slut". She has no idea what a slut is, she just knows its "not good". I do
believe kids will reapeat what they hear, MUCH more often than repeat what they
see!
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Don't you think those "fifth graders" should be in bed. If their parents were any kind of people, they would monitor their children and they would know 5th graders arent ready for SP????
exactly .... i agree w/the post about parents not watching out for what the kids have on TV... SP does have the "MA" mature adults rating on it... so theres no reason to blame television OR SP itself for anything... ppl are just looking elsewhere to put the blame!
Now, I'm as much of a SP fan as anyone, but in todays society kids can get
anything. Parents can't watch kids 24 hours a day, and lets not forget the
almighty VHS tape. Try to remember when you were a kid...if you wanted
something your parents did'nt want you to have, did'nt you still go to great
lengths to get it. No one person or thing is to blame about the trouble in our
youth today, EVERYTHING has a part. We can't point fingers.
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I agree with what you say about kids, but I do not blame South Park. My little sisters and brother know that Rule #1 is: "Don't use a word if you don't know what it means!" They get in much more trouble for using a word if they don't know what they're saying (and I won't spell it for them to look it up, either =)
Anyway, half of the joke on South Park is the fact that the boys don't know what those words mean! "What's a dildo?" "I don't know and I bet Cartman doesn't either." or "Hey Wendy, what's a ****?" <shrug> Kids use words they don't understand all the time! It's up to their parents (or whoever takes care of them) to stop them. South Park is just making a joke using something that has gone on forever.
I'm not blaming South Park, kids pick that up from anywhere. Besides, I love South Park.
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On 7 Apr 1998 19:56:58 GMT, [email] (SnowCalico) wrote:
exactly. Beavis & Butthead did this to alot of the kids i know. a bunch of stupid boys run around saying "huh-huh". I know a girl like that girl who yells slut. she calls everyone a cunt, but doesn't know what the word means. she just does it because she heard the word somewhere.
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Yet an another attempt to dehumanize Manson, grow the fuck up. I've met Marilyn and could tell he's very open minded and would never say something as hypocritical such as that. Plus he was NEVER on Springer.
You're right. He hasn't been on Springer. You've all been trolled. Sheesh. What a clueless group of newbie sheep some of you are.
P.S.- use your fukkin' heads. Manson hates cries of censorship, because *HE* has to deal with that bullshit from the christian right every day. Do you really honestly believe someone who is boycotted constantly would advocate something they can't fucking stand!?! Take a trip on the Clue Bus(Tm). And don't believe what you read especially on the net. Suckers.
Me too. I hate South Park. It is a disgrace to television. It's unreal. It should be taken off the air, and completely forgot of. But I know that will never happen. So I do not watch it. IT SUCKS Blue Troll wrote in message ...
WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT MM's OPINION ITS JUST HIS OPINION AND ITS NOT A DIRECT INSULT TO ALL YOU SUPERSOUTHPARKWORSHIPPERS
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On Mon, 06 Apr 98 21:43:58 GMT, [email] (Donna L. Cross) wrote:
For one if Manson was on Springer I definatley would have heard about it. Two, Marilyn Manson would be a total hypocrit if he said anything like that. He is totally against censorship, so I find it rather difficult to believe that he would go on Jerry Springer and scream about South Park, besides he's much too famous for the Springer show :-)
Why are so many people on Usenet such flaming IDIOTS? MARILYN MANSON HAS NEVER APPEARED ON THE JERRY SPRINGER SHOW!!! He never said any of this. It's a STUPID JOKE! I can hardly believe how moronic you all are...
I guess Marilyn Manson doesn't believe in the first amendment, does he? He has no right to say what and what shouldn't be banned/censored/taken off the air with the act that he has. Personally, I think MM is a victim of bad animation-he really needs some help with his makeup. Until then, HE should be taken of the air.
yeah you probably agree because your a mason faggot who worships that satanic son of a bitch. he probably doesnt like the show because he knows it has more fans and better fans than he does. and besides if you hate south park then get the hell off of the newsgroup! SOUTH PARK RULES ------------------------------------------------------------ The T.A.T. stand for The A-Team Fool! Visit my web page at: http://members.aol.com/mobiltat/ateam.html My Under Construction ReBoot Page http://members.aol.com/matrix576/reboot.html (\/)ATRIX
In alt.tv.southpark Joe D. Foster-Grant wrote: [hilarious post about Marilyn Manson snipped]
Oh, that's just too precious for words... Marilyn Manson *and* Jerry Springer in the same post, either of whom on their own is enough to make many people puke... combined it's just too much. If you're attempting to find some sort of "respectable" backing for your opinion about South Park, you're definitely on the wrong track.
Your opinion has been noted. Thank you for your input. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
MTV is still on the air? I thought that channel would collapse due to it's total shit programming years ago. Nod, "music television" is now what, 4 rap videos, 5 chick pop videos, 2 hanson videos, a madonna special every weekend, 18 stupid game shows, 5 stupid "we put four models in a lush apt/van and gave them thousands of dollars. This is just like real life!" shows, and now it seems, Jerry Springer. Jesus, I feel for the people who watch more than 10min a week of MTV.
I duno.... I saw in the prevue guide "Springer Break" and I thought, NO.. that would make like lame pop TV critical mass. I turned it on, and sure enough there was Springer holding a fistful of blue cards while a couple of distraught-looking teenagers were sitting up on stage, except this was outdoors in what probably could have been one of the sets of their game shows.
I didn't watch long enough to see whather he instigated a fight up there. I turned to the History Channel and watched World War II until that special about the Prohibition came on.
Yup, there was a fight! And nope, there was NO Marilyn Manson. He never appeared on Springer. The original post was just a troll. Manson actually likes SouthPark. And Kraft Dinner. And Cheezy Poofs. And who cares what else?
Incidentally, "Springer Break" may have been the first time a Jerry Springer audience had on less clothes than the guests!
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Springer - The Pro Wrestling of talk TV. And infinitely more entertaining.
And when, exactly, did Marilyn Manson become a social arbiter for America's youth or a paragon of good taste?
He's disgusting. His "music" (if that's what you want to call it) is noisesome crap. At least South Park has a sense of humor, even about itself (witness the April Fool's spoof). MM is vulgar and pointless.
I'm confused. A while back, during the Spin magazine controversy, someone posted what was supposedly a letter from the SP creators. It stated how much they hated Spin, partly because of what the mag had said about "their friend Marilyn Manson." So did these guys have a falling out or was it determined the letter was a fake?
I have to take EVERYTHING that "supposedly" comes from Matt/Trey Parker/Stone, or any other "inside information", with a grain of salt... that includes that letter on Taison's website, unfortunately. Too many people have posted too much BS for me to take any "personal letter from the creators" seriously. Until someone PROVES to me that it WAS them (which is probably next to impossible), I just call it a cow pie and get on with life.
Obviously you have'nt read the "Aspen" interview. The two said how much they
liked beefcake.com, so they've been there. If the letter was a fake they'd say
so.
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listen fucked up people it's my OPINION!!!!! I don't care what your opion is if it's agenst mine then FUCKEN EGNORE IT!!!! AND WHO GIVE's A SHIT IF MANSON LIKE's IT OR NOT BUT TO TELL YOU SOMETHING MY OPINION I HATE THERE SHOW AND IF I WAS AS FAMOUS AS MANSON U PEOPLE WOULD PROBABLY LISTEN TO ME!!!! AND YES I AM A MANSON FAN AND AGREE MOSTLY ON EVERYTHING HE SAYS
So if yer a fan of Manson, yer a sheep eh? Maybe you should listen to some of what the guy says, hes smarter than he looks or acts. For the intelligent Manson fans out there, the few there are, you are making yourself look like an idiot.
Ummmmm... did I SAY that? No... I said that Gary Arsenian is.
I actually saw the guy on Politically Incorrect late last year. I'm not bashing the man's intellect... I found his views, though different from mine, were pretty well-presented and somewhat mature.
Read my post again. I didn't bash Manson. Just the mindless sheep that post in all caps "MANSON IS COOL AND IF YOU DONT AGREE WITH MY OPINION THEN FUCK YOU MANSON MAKES GOOD MUSIC AND YOU WOULD LISTEN TO ME IF I WERE AS FAMOUS AS HE IS" (typographical errors left out for your reading convenience.)
Both of Manson's intelligent fans can think what they want about me. What they, and you, think of me is of little consequence. Again, read the thread and ask youself if I bashed Manson.
BTW: Who do YOU think Cartman's dad is? (Desparate attempt to regain a SP topic)
He can't unless Manson tells him to get one. Then Manson would have to tell him to install it. Then Manson would have to tell him use it. But I don't think even "The Great Marilyn Manson" could tell him to be smart enough to use it correctly. That would be like Stan telling his dog to "not be gay".
LM (Hey look, I even snuck a Southpark reference in so folks won't think I'm posting off topic!) : )
*Marilyn Manson*, wonderful role model that he is, ranting on - of all places the Jerry Springer, that bastion of quality television. Yeah...I'm really going to base my decisions on that combination.
Marylin Manson is a poser who has to use "shock value" to sell his music. Unfortuately, for him, it's already been done, and by more talented musicians like "Thrill Kill Kult" and "The Impotent Sea Snakes".