Why are the episodes so damn stupid?

S03E06 Sexual Harassment PandaliveJul 9, 1999, 2:06 AM ETthe next day20 posts by 12 postersalt.tv.southpark
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Jordan Bermanalt.tv.southpark
I've been a South Park fan since the beginning.  Before the beginning, even.
Early in the summer of . . . 1997, I think, Comedy Central ran short promos
all day for South Park, and I thought it looked freakin' hilarious.  So I
searched the web and found the Spririt of Christmas, which reigned as the
funniest thing in existance until the movie came along.  But we'll get to
that later.  So I watched the first six episodes in awe.  It was terrific!
But since then, I've been dragged through a show that is inconsistant at
best and boring and repetitive at its worst.  How many times can they use
the sample, "Dude, this is pretty (bleep)ed up right here!"  How many times
can they use the same plotline? (The pinkeye and Starvin' Marvin episodes
were exactly the same, just as SoXmas' plot was recycled in Jesus vs. Satan,
not to mention the number of times the town has faced certain doom).
    I've been a faithful watcher throughout, though I terminated my website,
which was among the first ten South Park sites on the web and one of the
five most popular upon its demise, after the string of four February
episodes including Mecha Streisand, etc.  As the movie drew nearer, I
groaned and lamented over how crappy it would be, since the show had done
nothing spectacular since its first episodes.  Then more information leaked
out about it's true nature, and I was pleased to find a return to SoXmas'
brutal humor for another uncensored tour de force.  Anyway, I just remember
waking my parents from laughing at "An elephant makes love to a pig" while I
barely smiled at the recent Sexual Harassment Panda episode.  Even the movie
was inconsistant, with big laughs, but the Satan-Saddam tryst was an even
bigger bore.  And the first episodes were inconsistant, too.  While Anal
Probe, Big Gay Al, and Elephant were hysterical, Volcano, Kathy Lee, and
Death were not so great.  But the highs have decreased while the lows have
gotten much lower.
    Sorry about this incoherent rant.  I'm sure many die-hard 12-yr-olds
will call me a pigfucker for this, but I just wondered if anyone felt the
same way.  Respond with your thoughts,

Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo

p.s.- Sorry if this shatters my arguement, but next week's episode, in which Cartman squares off with his new babysitter, Shelly, shows promise. That is, if Cartman doesn't go into the same old chauvenist rants and Matt and Trey can come up with some new material.

Possible spoilers (Although I'm sure everyone has seen these eps by now)

How? "Starvin Marvin" was about the kids adopting a starving African child, Cartman getting sent to Ethiopia for being selfish, and a gang of pissed-off turkeys trying to kill everyone. "Pinkeye" was about Kenney being killed and coming back as a Zombie, then the whole town being terrorized by or turned into zombies.

SaraJ I don't suffer from insanity.I like every minute of it. SNAFU=Situation Normal:All Fucked Up

"Umm-is that a God dam? "-Beavis, "Beavis&Butt-Head Do America"

"We'll live like kings! Damn hell ass kings!" -Bart Simpson

Jordan BermanSaraJalt.tv.southpark

A band of crazed pink-eye zombies threaten the town, only to be sliced into pieces.

A band of crazed turkeys threaten the town, only to be sliced into pieces.

You're right, I guess there is no connection.

Meanwhile, I never said the show sucked, I merely said it was inconsistant at best and repetitive and unfunny at worst. It's still one of the better things on tv, but the quality of the show has declined tremendously since the first episodes.

SaraJ wrote in message news:[email]...

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Well, I guess there is a connection between the eps. Sorry!

SaraJ I don't suffer from insanity.I like every minute of it. SNAFU=Situation Normal:All Fucked Up

"Umm-is that a God dam? "-Beavis, "Beavis&Butt-Head Do America"

"We'll live like kings! Damn hell ass kings!" -Bart Simpson -----END SIG-----

In article , [email] (SaraJ) writes:

You know, I understand Kenny dies in both episodes. And both of them use the word "the". So, I guess they are repetitive.

Jeremy B "Space... it seems to go on and on forever. But then you reach the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you."

Tough one there.. I always love it when people complain about shit instead of making the changes neccessary to alieviate the problem.

Case in point; you don't like the show ( and haven't for 2 years ) then stop watching it.

The first episode I saw was WeightGain 4000. I lived in an apt complex which was one of the first in the area to get Comedy Central. Everyone was at my place on Wednesday nights to watch the show. I think the show is great. If you think the laughs ended after the THIRD episode, then why have you persisted to catch every episode? Why do you still tune in?

Jordan Berman wrote in message news:3kgh3.15458$[email]...

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Michael Pitts wrote:

And just how exactly do you propose he make these changes? Write to Trey and Matt and tell them, "Hey guys- some of your episodes suck. Start making some better ones ok?"

-Toni

The PacifistTonialt.tv.southpark

I've seen them all from SOXMAS to 303 and I think they're all GREAT, except for:

201 Terrence and Philip in "Not Without My Anus" 207 City on the edge of Forever 213 Cow Days 301 Rainforest

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The best SP episode ever made....

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Very funny!!!!!!!!!!!

Pretty good for "the new batch" ....

The ones, in my opinion, that were kinda spotty and not that funny were "ROger Ebert Should Lay Off The Fatty Foods" and all the ones that have aired since Jackofasaur

Greg

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Blame Canada!!! wrote in message ...

How can you say that was brilliant? It was just a rehash of previous episodes. What the devil was so funny about it?

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Dude, watch it again and pay attention! The Flashback episode is a great example of South Park irony and wit. Almost every sitcom has a cheezy flashback episode where people go "oh, remember the time....". However, in this one, they changed all the events! An ice-cream truck came outta Cartman's ass instead of a satelite dish, John Elway was Cartman's father, etc.....it was so gaddamn funny! Not to mention they had a "Happy Days Fonz flashback", yet Henry Winkler did the big black monster's noises instead of Fonz's "eeeeeeeeeh"s. Dude, that's fucking funny.

Greg

"God is the biggest bitch of them all..." -The Mole, South Park:BL&U "Rosie O'Donnell...is as exciting as a dry popcorn fart" -Doug Steckler

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Dude, I KNOW all the endings were changed. Also, Kenny didn't die in #106, and they garbled the ending of #103: Scuzzlebutt had something else on his leg instead of Patrick Duffy. Ahh, it may grow on me next time around.

I'm still suspicious as to why they chose that time to do a flashback episode. It would be relatively to put together with minor alterations, and with the movie (then) in full production...

Talking of Kenny, I've only now seen #110, if anyone can remember it. Did anyone notice how T&P were constantly playing on everyone's anticipation of what was going to happen to Kenny? "This is where he gets it," I thought on several occasions, like when he went up the ladder to remove the star from the stage curtains. Then at the end, when they go, something's not quite right... I'm still waiting for something to happen... Kenny's eyes dart all over the place. Then "The End" lights up, and he goes "Yippee!!!!" Classic.

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They did it cuz all shows do a cheezy flashback episode. :) ....the movie was barely starting when that ep came out, so that had nothing to do with it.

Greg "God is the biggest bitch of them all..." -The Mole, South Park:BL&U "Rosie O'Donnell...is as exciting as a dry popcorn fart" -Doug Steckler
Michael PittsTonialt.tv.southpark

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Read the rest of my post. I wasn't suggesting that this person change the show. They say the show hasn't been funny since the first three episodes. I recommeded that, if they don't think the show is funny, to discontinue watching it.

Instead of fixing their problem and stop watching the show, the watch it and complain. That is what I was talking about.

The recent batch has totally sucked, but I think that the show had been relatively consistant up until now! The episodes from last fall were all pretty good! Chef's Salty Chocolate Balls, Cow Days, Chef Aid, Clubhouse, Spookyfish, Merry Christmas Charlie Manson, Gnomes, Chicken Pox.....I dug all those....it's just lately, there's been a total lack of profanity and witty humor.

Greg
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   "Rosie O'Donnell...is as exciting as a dry popcorn fart" -Doug Steckler
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    "They may cut your dick in half, and serve it to a pig...and though it
    hurts, you'll laugh...and dance a dickless jig!"
    -La Resistance, "South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut"
    ======================================================================

Most of the ones you named were good. Though I am a much less avid watcher through season II/III than in the first one, i remember City on the edge of tommorow, Charlie Manson, Salty Balls, Rainforest, Spookyfish, and where Chef gets engaged (gimme tree-fitty!) were all very good. But when the show is bad, it's awful. And responding to Sarah, the most blatant thing about the likeness in the two episodes, Pinkeye and Starvin' Marvin, was that they aired within three weeks of each other. I think they were even consecutive episodes, (remember, this was when South Park was a breakthrough phenomenon, and Comedy Central was desperate for more than the six original episodes).

  • Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo

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