I was just watching the Grandpa episode of SP, and you know that part where Cartman says "Kyle's mom is a dirty Jew!"? Well, this time around, they beeped out "dirty". Now What the fuck is that? did anybody else notice this?
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I noticed that too. I should've kept a recording of it the first time around. This is the same senario we had with both "Ren & Stimpy" and "Beavis & Butt-Head."
It's not unlike the reruns of "The Simpsons" which get gutted all the time to make room for more commercials.
Watch an old original tape of an older Simpsons and you'll notice that it's a lot longer than now. Now they jam it up with more ads.
but south park is still cool. besides this way we'll make sure totape the original eps.
Similar in that things are being cut. For differing reasons perhaps. but they are both cut. hence the similarity.
One episode of the simpsons was actually changed. Homer had an academy award he astole from Haing Ngor -- in reruns it was changed to "Don Ameche" after Ngor died. That's a real change, not just a cut.
I think the "Censorship" issue is a little overstated. they're just bleeping out stuff. I think it's kind of couterproductive since we ALL KNOW what they're saying, but still. it's not like they're changing the content by making M & T rewrite episodes on orders from the sponsors.
I like south park, but it seems that anything that doesn't satisfy the hardcore fans' wishes is immediately blasted. Terrence and Phillip weren't that great but it really wasn't THAT bad. People went crazy.
Likewise with the bleeping. The fact is I can tell EXACTLY what Eric Cartman is saying about Kyles mom or whatever, bleep or no bleep.
On Wed, 22 Apr 1998 01:50:55 GMT, [email] wrote:
True, but there's a big difference between I&S and T&P. That being that only one of them is funny. People have been watching a somewhat less violent version of I&S for years. It's called Tom & Jerry.
That's why I always try to keep a copy of the first-run airing of any show just in case a network like Comedy Central pulls a stunt like this. And to think that I was going to erase the old one just because the newer "bleeped" one was closed captioned. Thank God that I didn't. I wouldn't be too surprised if the video version of this episode has the word "dirty" bleeped out too.
Hehe I just finished making a hybrid copy, using the sound from the original (including "dirty jew") and the video (including closed-captioning) from the rerun. I'd be glad to make anyone a copy -- just send me the ashes of at least one jew you've recently cooked, and I'll gladly send you a tape!
Now, that REALLY isn't funny. The car you see coming up fast behind you--the one with the shotgun sticking out the window--on your next drive home. . . . That will be me, you fuckstain.
I can't believe fans of South Park would have such a baffling lack of a sense of humor. If you can't take a joke, go hang out at alt.kathie-lee-fan or somewhere lame.
John Novak wrote:
I don't mind humor that "stretches the envelope,"but that wasn't even funny. Not even compared to South Park. I hope you get a pleasant visit from Mossad.
You must mean the car with the big star of David on it.
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I don't think the bleep was censorship, I think it was hilarious. "[Bleep] Jew" is no less funny or offensive in meaning than "dirty Jew". It allows viewers to put their own words (possibly much more profane) into Cartman's mouth. It also makes a better punch line to Mrs. Cartman's previous comment about Terrence & Phillip making Cartman into a pottymouth, since the word "dirty" is not ordinarily considered profane. I know many people consider the bleeps on South Park to be censorship, but I think they're a very witty and subversive joke. Bleeps are normally reserved for live TV events, or else for material imported from another media (ie, major movies, HBO Comedy specials, etc.) The idea of bleeps as part of an orginal script, especially one involving animated characters, upsets the viewer's balance and turns TV convention on its head, much like Monty Python did. The idea that real-life children need to be protected from the words of their animated counterparts is also quite funny. The bleeps underscore the crudeness and offensiveness of Cartman and his friends; they don't hide it.
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Speaking of Monty Python, do you remember the animated short where Carol Cleveland's narration was bleeped out? What she was supposed to say was that a young prince died of the clap, only "the clap" was wiped and replaced with a man's voice saying "gangrene." It was hilarious, much more so than the original, which showed up in a later collection. Same deal here, with me at least. "Dirty Jew" just doesn't do it for me. Original artistic intent can go to hell.
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