100the ep **may contain spoilers**

Apr 9, 2003, 10:36 PM ET26 posts by 15 posters
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bain_rapidsword

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I think the best part of the episode had to have been in Cartman's "flashback" when Ben Franklin expressed his opinions on a country that should "have its cake and eat it too." Amen to that. I'm glad it had a good moral to end off with. And Cartman saved the day!!!

You Aint Sanchobain_rapidsword

Heh I liked the whole episode, specially when Cartman kills the messenger boy and "ps, icecream every Thursday". Thats just hilarious.

"bain_rapidsword" wrote in message news:b72laq$jm4$[email]...

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andy5421You Aint Sancho

I liked cartman's attempts to have a flashback

the Tivo idea killed me "Buddy Lee" wrote in message news:6m5la.28395$[email]...

Steve SilberbergYou Aint Sancho

On Wed, 9 Apr 2003 23:24:44 -0400, "Buddy Lee" wrote:

I thought that Cartman killing the messanger was the only egregious mistake. Hit him? Sure. Kill him? Naah. Ditto for Scott Tenorman Must Die. But that's just my opinion.

Ice cream every Thursday was the best line.

Also, I think it might have been a better choice to make Jesus the anti-war protester instead of Randy, and make Satan/Saddam/Chris/Santa Claus/Jimbo the spokesman for the pro-war side.

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JoshSteve Silberberg

On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 00:23:36 GMT, Steve Silberberg wrote:

Then you have COMPLETELY missed the point of the whole episode. The idea was to portray neither side as right or wrong (good or evil) so that Ben Franklin's words, and the ending itself would make sense. This clever idea is why episodes like this tend to get nominated for Emmys, and why stupid, obvious stunts don't. If it seemed that they were going to take a particular side on this issue, they would have lost half the audience from the start.

Steve SilberbergJosh

On Sat, 12 Apr 2003 11:28:01 -0500, Josh wrote:

So how would making Jesus the Pro-Peace leader and Santa (or even say, God) the Pro-War leader do this?

Steve Silberberg mailto:[email] Steve's Tiny Book of Romance http://www.callipygianproductions.com/stbor/stbor.html
JoshSteve Silberberg

On Sat, 12 Apr 2003 19:20:14 GMT, Steve Silberberg wrote:

These are not neutral characters. In your original message, you suggested using Satan as a pro-war leader, and I suspect that most people who support the war do not consider themselves in league with Satan. My point, was that once you've lost the audience, your message is lost. By effectively claiming that people who support the war are on the side of Satan, you lose them. By the same token, you also lose them by saying that Jesus is against the war. The reason that this episode was brilliant was that it made a strong point about the war and democracy without taking either side or alienating anyone. (And bringing both sides closer to the middle)

Incidentally, it seems unlikely that Saddam would support a war against Iraq. Even a ficticious Saddam.

Steve SilberbergJosh

On Sat, 12 Apr 2003 15:28:00 -0500, Josh wrote:

That's the best idea yet. Having Saddam lead the anti-war protestors. For surely, he is/was against it.

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HeavyarmsSteve Silberberg

"Steve Silberberg" wrote in message news:[email]...

On that note, since Sadaam is supposedly dead, I think Trey and Matt need to come up with a new Iraqi leader to portray on the show (they can show him in hell still.) I nominate Baghdad Bob.

bain_rapidswordHeavyarms

"Heavyarms" <jentrytee (at) pee-puhl-pee-see (dot) com> wrote in message news:[email]...

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Actually Saddam was in the Krazy Kripples episode. He was one of the members of "Chris"'s Legion of Doom. Which I don't understand because in the 'Ladder to Heaven' episode it showed him in heaven. Some inconsistencies?

bain_rapidswordbain_rapidsword

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protestors.

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LMAO

HeavyarmsHeavyarms

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nevermind, apparently reports are coming out that Baghdad Bob committed suicide. http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcast/story/0,7493,937425,00.html
Burton SamogradSteve Silberberg

Steve Silberberg writes:

It would have been too extreme to have jesus leading the peacenicks and would have torn the religious and quasi-religious (church at christmas and easter types) towards that side, when the true public opinion is more random. Meaning that Christians are both pro-war and anti-war, but as a group if Jesus was leading they would probably go on that side.

There's something about the whole pro/anti question that defies those types of beliefs and I think trey and matt know that. The wanted to show Americans as Americans and that no matter who you are, the other person's opinion is just as stupid and wrong compared to yours no matter if your gay, redneck, christian, country or rock. The whole point of being American is to be pissed off at your neighbour's opinion simply because they are *allowed* to have an opinion, which is what those founding fathers intended. That whole EP made me know what being American is all about, just like Asses of Fire made me realize what it was like to be Canadian (stupid I know, but I felt that I had saw the most patriotic Canadian propoganda ever after seeing that).

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Willie WestwoodJosh

The day South Park actually WINS an Emmy for this is the day I'll applaud that statement. :) "Osama bin Laden Has Farty Pants" was a great nomination, but we know what it lost to...

Burton SamogradWillie Westwood

What did it lose to? I can't say I follow the Emmy's much...

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Antonio E. GonzalezBurton Samograd

Simpsons did it!

  • Vaughner

"I'll have you know, in addition to knowing the secrets of the universe, I'm quite potty trained!" - Ko-enma, Yu Yu Hakusho

Burton SamogradAntonio E. Gonzalez

Awww geeze! What haven't they done!??!?!

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El WhappoSteve Silberberg

"Steve Silberberg" wrote in message news:[email]...

That is kind of stupid. Wouldn't it be smarter to have Saddam be the ANTI War guy being he doesn't actually WANT a war. Saddam is on the ANTI-War side.

"For the war, against the war, WHO CARES? 100 episodes!" heh heh heh.

"bain_rapidsword" wrote in message news:b72laq$jm4$[email]...

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Last scene had every character (maybe) ever on the stage!: I saw (quickly) Sally Struthers, one of the Thompsons (butt-face people), Terrance and Philip, that blue goddess (Shiva?), Jesus (didn't he get killed in Red Sleigh Down?) . . . oh well, that's the best I can do. Anybody wanna try at the rest?

  • Vaughner

"I'll have you know, in addition to knowing the secrets of the universe, I'm quite potty trained!" - Ko-enma, Yu Yu Hakusho

andy5421Antonio E. Gonzalez

yeah but he's Jesus, come on! "Antonio E. Gonzalez" wrote in message news:[email]...

(quickly)

Philip,

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I'm

bain_rapidswordandy5421

"andy5421" wrote in message news:[email]...

Yes, our Lord and savior was there. As well as Santa, sexual harasmment Panda...the list goes on but since the episode was last night and I don't have the episode downloaded yet I can't look at it first hand...

Trapper KeeperAntonio E. Gonzalez

Last scene had every character (maybe) ever on the stage!: I saw (quickly)

I see Drew Carey, all of the Super Best Friends and David Blaine, Cheech and Chong, the Sorcerer, Gorak/Steve, Kathie Lee Gifford, Death, Nurse Gollum, the Helen Keller guy, Towelie, Damien, the Jakovasaurs, some Marklars, Scott Tenorman... There are som I can't make out too, I'm looking at the RealPlayer file.