BASEketball-did you notice?

did anyone notice how fucking horrible this movie looks? that "dude! dude! dude! dude!" thing has to be one of the worst things i've ever seen. i'm sure everyone will run to defend it because the photogenic creators of south park are behind it.

What movie?

Sweepings wrote in message ...

dude!

south

They are NOT behind it in anyway, they were casted for that movie BEFORE South Park became anything. Personally the previews look pretty damn funny, and no matter what people say about it, I will go see it and form my OWN opinion of it afterwards.

Sweepings wrote in message ...

dude!

south

Casted? DUUUDE!

Maagic wrote in message ...

Yea, I f*cked up on that one, LOL. It's CAST I know, sorry for the spelling eye sore, sigh......

On Mon, 08 Jun 1998 23:53:10 GMT, "Jedi" wrote:

Reminds me of when people say "Eww, this milk is spoiled. You taste it."

Hahah, well atleast a bad movie won't give you the runs as bad milk will, ofcourse they're might be an exeption to that rule but I doubt Baseketball will be it ;-) .....

Lance Dooly wrote in message ...

funny,

I agree that the movie doesn't look *that* great, and we all know that the studio is pushing *really* hard with the "Creators of SP" thing...

That's probably the only reason *I'll* end up seeing it. (I have no shame!)

But it does look *kinda* funny. I mean, it's directed by David Zucker (right?) and those ZAZ films were pretty hilarious!

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I feel I must post this review I read of a test screening of BASEketball. Note: After the review was submitted someone involved with the movie said it would definately not be edited and will very likely be a R, seeing as they have no intentions to edit out the swearing. There would be no dialouge left. Anyway, on with the review:

I, THE MIGHTY JOE HALLENBECK, braved the high waters and torrential rain and
managed to
   attend the very first Test Screening of BASEketball. For those of you
knuckleheads out there that
    have yet to hear of the film, let me give you some insight as to who is
involved in this project:
                                Director/Co-Writer - David Zucker
        Stars - Trey Parker and Matt Stone(probably contributed to the
writing chores as well)
  Now, if you don't know who these 3 Gents are then GET THE FUCK OFF THIS
PAGE AND GO
                        READ THE SHIT MR. SHOWBIZ PRINTS UP!!!
 Anywho... before I get on with my review I'd like to take this next
paragraph to bid a fond farewell to
              one of my all time favorite TV Shows...that one with Jerry and
the gang.
  Back in the summer of '89(man, what a great fuckin summer...unlike the
piece of shit one we have
 coming up!), a little pilot premiered on NBC right after Cheers(I miss that
show) called The Seinfeld
  Chronicles. What a piece of shit that was. I was shocked and somewhat
dismayed to hear the show
  was picked up. I watched the damn thing everytime it was on(if you
remember correctly, the show
 bounced all over the schedule...Thur at 9:30...Wed at 9:30...Wed at
9:00...and so on), but wasn't too
  impressed by it. It wasn't until the 3rd season when I realized what a
truly ingenius show this was.
 Everything really started to click(creatively speaking). I found myself
literally obsessed with the show.
 My whole life revolved around it. Seasons 3 and 4 were two of the funniest
years in televison history.
  I thank God I was around to witness it(unlike when MTM and MASH were in
their prime). As the
  season's went by the show started losing it's touch. I figured out why - a
show that was once about
 nothing suddenly became about something. However, that didn't affect my
love for the show. It was
 still close to my heart, but me noggin' was getting a bit disparaged. It's
true, there were moments of
  pure genius that popped up every once in awhile, but not with the same
consistency as they used to.
  Yada-yada-yada...the show's final episode airs in a day. What will I, one
of the biggest Sein-freaks
 around, be doing when it's on? -- Balling his eyes out...either from
missing the show or laughing too
 hard. I did weep, however, after I managed to get on the set of the show
right before they filmed the
   last episode. To be granted carte blanche on the set of Seinfeld was a
dream come true. To sit in
 Monk's Cafe and to see Jerry entire bathroom was an experience I'll never
forget. It has become my
 Rosebud. I'm glad to say I was there before it ended. I'm also glad to hear
the true genius behind the
  show wrote the last episode. As to what it's about...I don't know. If I
were writing it I'd have Jerry
 and the gang move to LA. Jerry becomes a talk show host. Elaine finds the
man of her dreams(who
  is Puddy in my eyes, but that ain't gonna happen). George becomes a TV
critic. And Kramer...well,
   the K-Man becomes an actor on a sitcom for NBC.. Afterall, they need a
show to replace the one
    that's leaving. I'm not saying that's it, but that's what I'd do. I'd
also do this -- Have Jerry call
        George Biff one last time. Me gotsta hear my man call Georgey-boy
that once more!
                        Give me a moment to wipe the tears from my eyes...
 There we go. Enough of Seinfeld and one with the review. The review I'm
about to write will be quite
       different from most of my reviews. The structure will be different as
well as the content.
 So, pull up a swiveling chair, chug down that morning coffee and let I, The
Mighty Joe Hallenbeck,
                            tell how good -- or bad -- BASEketball is....
                             The Stuff that Worked(aka The Laughs):
 First off, let me just say that everyone who was involved in this
production is a bastard...and that's a
  good thing. You're all bastards because you broke me...you made me cry. I
was sobbing during two
 particular parts of the movie and not because it was a sad scene. Tears
were streaming down my face
 in buckets because I was laughing so hard. As I write this review, my sides
still ache and my throat is
   horse. I haven't laughed that hard(intentionally) during a movie since I
saw Airpalne for the first
  time. If it were possible, I would have been rolling on the floor. You
bastards managed to tickle my
 funny bone to near death and a hate you for that! You managed to crack that
serious demeanor that
        has plauged me for years. I'm giddy! Now, the resons why I laughed
are as followed:
1) THE MOVIE WAS NOT FUCKIN PC!!!!!!!! Finally, filmmakers with enough balls
to show some
  really sick and twisted comedy on the big screen(ie sick children jokes,
cripple people jokes, and big
  dick jokes!). This movie was incredibly offensive. Many will hate it and
will want it banned. Others
   will praise it...calling it daring, stupid, audacious, and balls out
hyterical. If you are offended by
 shows like South Park or movies like The Kentucky Fried Movie then stay far
away from this movie.
 I don't want to hear about you being offended by the material. I don't want
to hear some PC, liberal
    bullshit about how it's not right to make fun of child labor or sick and
dying children. This is a
 movie...a silly one at that! If you take one second of this movie seriously
then you deserve to be shot
  and your wounded body should be buried under 6 feet of dirt where you'll
try to claw your way out
        but will eventually die and suffer before doing so. That said, let's
get to number two.
     2) The problem with comedies nowadays is that they are waaayyyy too PC.
They try to please
  everyone! If you look at the great comedies of yore, they could give a
fuck if they were insensitive.
   Everything that was said and done was done in the name of comedy.
Sometimes, jokes were too
   insensitive...othertimes, the didn't go far enough. That's the case with
BASEketball. Some of the
 jokes went a little too far...others didn't go far enough. I respect the
filmmakers for making a movie
 that was able to offend everyone...regardless of race, sex, or gender. Any
movie that has cheerleaders
dressed in extremely provacative outfits and 8 year old kids downing shots
of Tequila is all right in my
                                             book!
 3) The content was extremely mature. The language, the props(two in
particular), the skimpy outfits,
      and the excessive use of the word "Fuck" should garuantee an "R"
rating for this movie.
 Unfortunately, those fuckers over at Universal probably want a PG-13 rating
so they can supposedly
   sell more tickets! I say -- BULLSHIT!!! Leave all the offensive, great,
witty comedy bits in there!
 Movies like Animal House and The Breakfast Club were rated "R" and were
geared toward the same
 audienece. Amazingly enough, they managed to make a shit load of mula. Why
was that? Maybe it's
    because they were...FUNNY!!! Maybe these teenagers would stop at nothing
from seeing those
 movies! Just because a movie is rated "R" doesn't mean a teenie-bopper
won't see it. If anything, it'll
    attract them to it. If there's a will(and there will be)...there's a
way. For once in the goddaman
 PC-Bullshit '90's I'd like to see a funny, well-written, offensive comedy
come out have a dreaded "R"
 rating attached to it. Leave the shit in there and see how it does. If it
bombs, then blame me. If it's a
                         hit then give me a 3 picture deal. Cool with you?
  4) The use of the word DUDE has never been used so perfectly. The dude
argument Matt and Trey
 have in the movie is a classic scene in cinema. It's such a "Guy" thing! To
a "TRUE" guy, the word
     DUDE has so much meaning it's beyond a woman's comprehension. Kudos to
you dudes for
                 overusing (and somewhat abusing) the word as much as you
did!
                      5) Scene #1 I cried in -- The Hospital Scene. 'Nuff
said!
 6) Scene #2 I cried in - The Kissing Scene(bar none one of the most
reprehensible, disgustingly funny
    scenes I've ever seen. If you cut this, I'll make it my mission in life
to fuckin destroy you!!!).
                                           7) Squeak!
                                      8) The Titanic gags!
       9) The "Dick" scene. I hope and pray this scene isn't castrated or at
least circumcised.
                      The stuff that didn't work(mostly for the filmmakers)
:
 1)The Unsolved Mystery gag was funny(particualrly Stack swearing), but it
bogged down the movie.
 2) Jenny McCarthy. Two great jokes about laying some carpet and a trailer
hitch(I almost cried with
that one) is about all she contributed. She'd be perfect in the movie if you
had some explaination as to
 why she hooked up with Vaughn(I'm assuming it's because she's gonna sell
the team to him after the
                                  Beers lose the Championship).
                 3) NO TOMMY LASORDA!!! You must put that scene in there!!!!
                             4) Cut some of that fame shit with Matt.
                     5) I want to hear Vin Scully do the intro in the
beginning!
                6) The playmate of the year bit. Nice to look at, but lacked
in laughs.
  OVERALL: The funniest goddamn movie I've seen all decade! The story maybe
a little thin, but I
 truly laughed my ass off!!! To take away the crude and crass nature of this
film would be a sin. At a
    current 1:44, I'm sure the filmmakers will chip away at that running
time and manage to put
    together a movie that runs a little over 1:30. I, for one, hope and pray
to the Movie Gods above,
 they'll take out the bits and pieces that just didn't work(as in some of
the slower moments mentioned
                                             above).
           Oh, and yes...there's at least one mention(or should I say voice)
of South Park.
                                      Send letter bombs to:
                                   [email]
                                            T.T.F.N.,
                                         Joe Hallenbeck
                                    "Master of My Domain!"

Ok, that's it, gonna start to save my nickles and dimes for this one for sure. Question, if this is from a site (and I'm sure it is) could you give out the URL? This Mighty Joe hallenbeck dude sounds he's got his shit together hehe.

Try this URL...I did a netsearch and got here (pretty much)

http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/reviews/index.html

Shane Jedi wrote in message ...

< Lengthy review snipped >

If this review is even close to being true it may be the movie that finally ends the meaningless movie rating system. Can you imagine the wrath of the parents who find out their "underaged" children have seen this film or are cajoled by their kids into taking them to see this only because of the creators of the "cute" SouthPark show? I really hope it comes out as "R". I, for one, can hardly wait.

If I could drop dead right now, I'd be the happiest man alive. - Samuel Goldwyn

MOWBIE wrote in message ...

I'm not sure I understand this comment. Are you actually saying that if enough minors get in to see this movie because it came from the creators of South Park, that the ratings system will be abandoned because it wasn't enforced? Sheer lunacy.

creators

You'd have to define "underaged" in this case, simply because I'd question anyone who took my kids (if I had any) to see an R-rated movie without my permission.

As for the "Daddy, can we see... " argument.... Let me see if I got this straight.....

Kids: "Mommy, Daddy..... We wanna go see BASEketball.... It's from the guys who make that funny cartoon South Park" Parents: "You want us to take you to an R-rated movie because its from the guys who make a show you're not supposed to be watching in the first place?" Kids: "Uh......" Parents: "Well, first off, the answer is no... and second, you're grounded because I told you not to watch South Park."

Wrath? WRATH?!?! They'd have no right. Any parents who let their kids talk them into seeing any R-rated movie without checking it (or also in this case, South Park) out first should have their heads examined.

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What I am saying is that the current rating systems whether film, TV, computer games or music is meaningless & futile and it's time to abandon it. Especially when the government gets involved. It's time for parents to pay attention to what is going on. You probably missed the rather extensive thread having to do with children watching SP even though it's rated for mature audiences. I'm betting that children are going to go to BASEketball no matter what the rating is and their parents or guadians will go with them. What a surprise they are going to get if the producers don't water down the movie. Kids are going to have access to bootlegs as well as authorized videos when they come out. I also maintain that many families have signed up for Comedy Central, a premium channel in most areas I think, only because their children HAVE to watch SP. They see the cute round faces of Peanut like children & think it's OK. Now maybe you are able to withstand the tremendous peer pressure on parents these days to conform & I applaud you for that but the fact remains that many, too many can't or won't. The point I was trying to make is that maybe BASEketball will cause a controversy over this issue and parents will wake up to what is going on. The ONLY thing that entertainment companies react to is money.

If I could drop dead right now, I'd be the happiest man alive. - Samuel Goldwyn

You know, I never consciously thought about this until I read yer "BASEketball" review... but then again, I haven't had to worry about getting turned away from R-rated movies for quite some time. :) By pure coincidence, this same issue was addressed in a Newsday article about Norm MacDonald's "Dirty Work":

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Newsday 6/9/98

Cleaning Up The Dirty Work By Patrick Goldstein. LOS ANGELES TIMES

EARLY IN NORM Macdonald's new film, "Dirty Work," the comedian is
thrown in jail after a scheme he hatched to earn $50,000 goes awry. No
sooner does the comic voice a fear of what happens to soft   guys in
prison than he is taken away by three hulking, tattooed bikers.
         "Hey," he says, berating the bikers with the mock severity
that was his trademark as the Weekend Update anchor on "Saturday Night
Live." "You fellows have a lot of growing up to do."
         It's a big laugh line, especially if you're a teenager raised
on the raunchy flippancy of "SNL"-bred comics like Macdonald, Adam
Sandler and David Spade. But big laugh or not, it won't be in the
movie when the MGM film arrives June 12 in theaters around the
country. Making fun of sodomy didn't play well with the Motion Picture
Association of America, whose ratings board is responsible for
assigning film ratingsthat suggest to parents what films are
appropriate for their children.
         "That was nonnegotiable -  if we'd kept it, we would've had
anR rating," says "Dirty Work" producer Robert Simonds, who has made a
series of low-budget, lowbrow youth comedies, including "Happy
Gilmore" and "The Wedding Singer." "You just can't have the star of
your movie reprimanding his tormentors for being [violated] and still
get a PG-13."

         It hardly matters that "Dirty Work" may get a D grade from
critics when it hits the theaters. In today's Hollywood, the important
grade for youth comedy is PG-13, which "Dirty Work" did, in fact,
earn. The rating was introduced in 1984, and it provided a middle
ground between the nearly anything-goes R rating and the more
restrictive PG rating, which severely limits a film's language and
sexual content.
         In the 1970s and early 1980s, many comedy hits were R-rated,
including such pivotal films as "National Lampoon's Animal House,"
"Porky's," "Blazing Saddles" and "Police Academy." But since 1984,
R-rated youth comedies have become an endangered species.
         "Movie studios are really following the PG-13 mandate," says
Gerry Rich, president of worldwide marketing at MGM Pictures. "For
parents of young teens, it really provides a Good Housekeeping seal of
approval."
-- -- --

     For years, filmmakers have complained about the capriciousness of
the ratings board, most recently director James Toback, who dismissed
the MPAA as "intellectually shabby and blockheaded" after battling to
get an R rating for his recent film "Two Guys and a Girl."
          "There's no consistency," says producer Simonds. "When you
submit the movie, it goes into this weird soup pot where decisions
aren't simply reactions to the use of language, but to the cumulative
use of language. So everything becomes very subjective."
         Although stung by frequent filmmaker complaints, the MPAA has
refused to open its ratings process to public scrutiny. Calls to
Richard Mosk, co-chairman of the MPAA's classification and ratings
administration board, were referred to a spokesman, who said the MPAA
doesn't comment on ratings decisions involving specific films.
         However, Simonds provided a rare inside peek into the ratings
process by allowing The Los Angeles Times to view both an R and PG-13
version of "Dirty Work," which stars Macdonald and comic Artie Lange
as two childhood friends who, in need of quick money to help Lange's
father get a heart transplant, start a revenge-for-hire business.
         The film received an R the first time it was submitted to the
ratings board. After the filmmakers removed any potentially
objectionable language and situations, they resubmitted the film and
received a PG-13. The filmmakers then reinserted some of their
favorite jokes, submitted the film a third time, and retained the
PG-13 rating. "After a while you get a sense of what's flipping them
out," says Simonds.
         Some objectionable language automatically triggers an R
rating.
Other words are allowable in carefully limited doses. A PG-13 film can
include one use of the F-word, for example, but only when used as
profanity, not in a sexual context. One scene in the R-rated version
of "Dirty Work" shows Warden  watching two women in a porn film. In
the PG-13 version of the film, the porn film has been replaced by a
workout video with two women in spandex tights.
 -- -- --

Not all the changes were so obvious. The PG-13 version still contains numerous examples of objectionable language. "It's cumulative,"says Simonds. "We'd often cut one [expletive] and keep another, depending on which got the bigger laugh in our test screenings."

         Earlier this year, "Half Baked," a Simonds-produced comedy,
was given an R rating, largely because of the film's multiple
references to pot smoking. The film's pre-release tracking numbers had
predicted an $11.5-million opening weekend. Instead, the film barely
did $7 million, and ended up making only $17 million in its theatrical
run.
         "If it had been a PG-13, it would've done incredibly better,"
says Simonds. "If you're making a movie for a 12to 18-year-old
audience, and you get an R rating, you lose too much of your target
audience. If it's an R movie, you can't get kids to come to matinee
showings, because their parents won't take them. If the movie's PG-13,
they can come in the afternoon by themselves."
         A PG-13 movie also has a huge advantage with TV advertising,
the primary means of raising awareness with young moviegoers. Most
networks won't air ads for an R-rated film before 9 p.m.
         But has the economic incentive to earn a PG-13 rating been
responsible for a fall-off in quality in present-day youth comedy?
It's hard to find comedies today that are as universally beloved as
films like "Animal House," "Stripes" and "Caddyshack," which all were
R-rated films. "PG-13 has killed comedy in modern-day movies," says
writer-director Roger Kumble, who is currently shooting "Cruel
Inventions," a high-school sex comedy. "Once PG-13 got established,
you couldn't be outrageous and politically incorrect  -  you can't
take as many risks. So you just can't capture the real teen
vernacular. Think about the legendary [caught-in-the-act] scene
between Phoebe Cates andJudge Reinhold in `Fast Times at Ridgemont
High.' You could never dothat today and get a PG-13."
         The ratings debate will be tested again later this summer.
Twentieth Century Fox is releasing "There's Something About Mary," an
R-rated sex comedy with Cameron Diaz, Ben Stiller and Matt Dillon that
tested so well in early screenings that the studio moved up its
release from fall to July 15. Fox executives say the movie, produced
by the same filmmakers who made "Dumb and Dumber," was always intended
as an R film.
   Of course, circumstances could change once again. "Absolutely,"
says Rich. "For now, the ratings issue has encouraged a level of
self-censorship, because we all need to find a broad audience for our
films. But in Hollywood, one big hit can start a new cycle."

Copyright 1998, Newsday Inc.

Yashar wrote in message ...

[snip Seinfeld and good review]

_ball_ing his eyes out? That's one way to deal with grief :)

Only reason I'm going to see it is because I'm in it :)

Went to be an extra.. Got a free beer hat & t-shirt. I've already spotted myself in the picture of "Beers Stadium" on the BASEketball site.

On 08 Jun 1998 06:56:23 GMT, [email] (Sweepings) wrote:

They're not behind it, they're just in it. BTW: I think that scene you mentioned is pretty funny. I'll probably wind up seeing it.

skull

Dude!

gay porn is funnier then that lame preview clip.

Dude?!

Yeah, of course we will.

Well to the first person who started this, you must not be a movie fan because if you were you would see that all the test screening reviews for the movie on movie sites such AIN'T IT COOL NEWS or COMING ATTRACTIONS have not only been positive but have said that it is one of the few comedies that keep them laughing throughout the movie. BTW don't judge a movie by it's preveiw(i.e. the first preview for THE TRUMAN SHOW made it look to be like DUMB AND DUMBER---good thing they changed it, that movie kicked ass also) CWICK