Okay, why would I want to use Kazaa when I can get episodes from webpages? After all, unless you're really in the know, Kazaa will make YOUR computer a server without you knowing it, opening you up to all kinds of security risks (especially for those who leave their computers on for several hours at a time).
Educate me, please.
RW
Kazaa is not really a security risk - just a big a pain in the arse with all the adware that comes bundled with it. If you can cope with all the pop ups then it's not too bad.
"Rebecca Webb" wrote in message news:[email]...
Tell me where you can get 200MB+ .mpg episode files from a webpage... fwiw, I don't want any South Park files as I prefer the original DVDs and am willing to wait for them to be issued. My VHS tapes of South Park are good enough in the meantime.
Huh? The purpose of KaZaA is to share files! Anyway, it works fine even with ZoneAlarm running and server rights denied. (You can still share files, however.)
Please name a trojan/virus/whatever that somehow attacks the KaZaA port in a manner different from how it attacks any other open port. After all, you have to have some ports open or you effectively have no internet. The KaZaA port is 1214 iirc...
Just do a search for and install KaZaA Lite instead. (It's not a watered- down version of KaZaA, but one without the spyware.) To prevent the pop-ups, install the HOSTS file as described on most sites that have KaZaA Lite available to download.
Well, that's the nature of KaZaA. You machine polls the closest KaZaA "supernodes" and relays their indexes back to you. At any given time, your computer doesn't actually have access to every file that is being shared using the KaZaA network -- just the ones that are indexed by the supernodes your computer has polled. No, you can't select which supernodes, but you can ask to poll more of them via the "Get More Sources" button or whatever it's called. Just click it right after you get the first set of search results...
There is also the issue of the KaZaA-specific worms, but these just use the shared directory to be accidentally "shared" -- they don't actually self-propagate just because you have KaZaA running. You have to make an effort to download some "tempting-sounding" file and run it. Some worms will propogate when run such that they drop copies of themselves in the KaZaA shared folder, iow. Watch for double-extension files (naked.jpg.exe, etc.) and scan everything you download. Standard safe computing procedures.
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 00:28:27 GMT, "andy" wrote:
You can get rid of the pop-ups if you run Kazaa Lite. It also doesn't have any spyware or similar processes.
Kazaa will make your computer a server, if you set it up to serve your files. It's very easy to run Kazaa and not allow any files to be served. You control which folders you to be accessed, and as long as you configure your Kazaa client to not offer any folders, you won't be serving anything. The reason to go with Kazaa over a webpage is that Kazaa is much, MUCH better at dealing with interrupted downloads. Once you queue a file for download on Kazaa, as long as that file is being served somewhere in the Kazaa network, you will get it eventually. Kazaa will keep trying to download the file from all the places serving it, and will eventually get it to you. As to the security issues, it's possible that there is a security flaw in Kazaa, but generally when there are security flaws in popular applications, it is generally pretty well advertised as soon as the security flaw is discovered.
Jeremiah Kristal wrote:
HTTP has a Byte Range command, so downloading interrupted files from a web page should also not be a problem.
1. KaZaA and other p2p servers have AVI and MPG files not available on webpages - the bandwidth on those pages would be enough for their hosts to shut them down. RM files are smaller and don't tax bandwidth for long. 2. You don't have to be at your computer trying to get a file from KaZaA, WinMX and others. You just get on a queue (wait in line) for the next available slot. You can do whatever you want in the mean time - go to school, go to work, go to sleep, whatever, if you don't mind leaving your computer unattended and you have enough security installed to rest your mind.
Better than either webpages or p2p services is IRC. irc.dal.net has a channel, #southpark-episodes, where you can get the eps faster and more reliably than you can over either p2p servers or webpages. And you can get them in AVI format if you prefer. MPGs are still hard to find, but they appear once in a while.
Or you can try your luck at alt.binaries.southpark
"Willie Westwood" wrote.
Exactly.
The queue is the killer feature, imo. Well, that and the multi-source downloading to speed up things.
Well, IRC is a bitch to get working behind a NAT-routed system. KaZaA is easy.
<shudder> You need a perfect-retention news server -- rare if you don't pay extra for NNTP news. It also helps if you really like playing with the reassembly of thousands of file chunks using numerous file tools. It helps to use Agent, but you still have to deal with various .rar, .par, and various other file-splitting formats. Messy.
No, I gave up after seeing all the reading I'd have to do just to download some multimedia files (I don't chat) and decided to bone up on P2P instead. I'm glad I did. Saved a lot of time.
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:01:40 -0600, "Bao H. Lammy" wrote:
For me Usenet is much much faster than any P2P. Probably my connection (UK ADSL) i guess but i can always get new stuff quicker via NNTP than any other way and its really not that complicated with Grabit and WinRAR. I do pay for Easynews so i know each week i can get the shows i want. Obviously with Kazaa though if i fancy downloading any particular episode of a whatever show i think of you can probably find it.
Gary
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Perhaps. I find KaZaA faster due to its multiple-sourcing downloads. But, if you can download from Usenet at your top speed, than I guess you can't go faster. My cable modem's top downstream speed is not relevant; Charter Pipeline caps NNTP at 128Kbps. I subscribe to 256Kbps downstream, and all upstream is 128Kbps max. NNTP is 128Kbps max either way for me. Not much incentive to upgrade my connection thanks to this assinine policy. I pay what amounts to $20/month for this connection, so I can't complain that much, I guess.
But it's full of spyware! TONS of them!:))))))
On 23 Nov 2002 08:26:14 GMT, "Sir Jinx!" wrote:
Not if you use KaZaaLite.
Jeremiah
On 28 Oct 02 02:37:53, Rebecca Webb said the following to All:
R > From: [email] (Rebecca Webb) R > R > Okay, why would I want to use Kazaa when I can get episodes from webpages? R > After all, unless you're really in the know, Kazaa will make YOUR computer R > a server without you knowing it, opening you up to all kinds of security R > risks (especially for those who leave their computers on for several hours R > at a time). R > R > Educate me, please.
Well, because Kazzaa doesn't really act like server. Well, it does, but you can point to which files you want it to share and NOTHING else will be shared but that. Then you can specify your bandwidth you want to send and recieve with. Also, speaking of that. If you get the episodes from the a website your just a much as risk of downloading a virus. Also, not to mention your at the websites bandwidth limits. I have a 2000 mbps on this computer bandwidth that's 250 KB a sec. Now a normal website can do about 150 KB a sec. which leaves you with 100KB not being used. Kazaa and other p2p networks connects to multiple clients that will download from 10+ people and that will only download a chunk at a time.. You say this sounds like crap. Well, not if it's doing all 10 at once. Which gets you to the 250KBs limit of my connect and downloads 30-40mins earilier then if I was going to download from a website. Also, as it downloads it saves it to your computer and start at the part you stop'd. If you stop in the middle of a download. If your downloading from a website and you stop in the middle or it fails. Then you have to download it all over again. Plus, not to meantion you have to wad threw all those banners. Crap downloads, pop-ups, and etc. The list continues. With kazaa you type in the name and boom.. No popups, no banners.. Just the file to download faster then a accual website..
Now, you ask'd.. I told you.. It's alot better. It goes on the best download places - Kazaa newgroups ftp then websites iRC dcc
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In a recent Hewlett-Packard Labs project found that a surprising number of Kazaa users were unknowningly sharing email inboxes, browser cookies, financial data, and other personal files http://www.hpl.hp.com/news/2002/apr-jun/kazaa.html
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It's True.. Sorry don't run WinMX, but have heard rave reviews. I mainly use Kazaa for the movies, but latly have been getting rename'd crap and thinking about something else. Yep, side by side sounds like something that should be done.
Also, after looking. The DCC transfer's from a iRC channel's is better then a website. It does have a resume feature and NO banner's. Just have to find a open spot on one that doesn't have the file in multi rar files.
But this is message is off topic..
chris
South Park.. Yeah, respect my Authority!!
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I already do.
But.. Give me more south park!!