TV Guide

Sep 6, 199727 posts by 21 posters
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Frank Grimes

Here is Tv Guide's review about South Park when it first premiered:

-------------- Hits and Misses by Susan Stewart

South Park (Wed., COM) TVMA:

Imagine Rugrats with an R rating and no wit. In this lame new animated series, the characters-fat, flatulent third-graders in Colorado-makes Beavis and Butt-head look like MacNeil and Lehrer. Maybe I missed thhe irony, but I didn't laugh when rats gnawed at a child's corpse or the school cook sang bawdy lyrics to the lunch line. Park's jokes aren't funny, just inappropriate. My score: 2

Of my many questions the first one that comes to mind is, when was Rugrats ever witty?

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This brings up an interesting subject matter --

Why does it *seem* to be that more men than women enjoy satirical comedy?

Examples: Simpsons, B&B, and now South Park.

My girlfriend, I should mention, DOES enjoy the humor of the Simpsons and South Park. But, most women just find nothing humorous about this type of humor (example 1: see Susan Stewart's review in TV Guide).

Is there anything deep someone wants to add? Is it a factor of evolution? American society? Upbringing? Or, am I just plain wrong?

Jon Deutsch http://www.midi.com

TrUsTnO1 wrote in article ...

Park's jokes aren't

On 9 Sep 1997 02:00:58 GMT, "Jon Deutsch" said:

All of the women that I know who have watched it think it's a riot. In fact, all of my friends love it. Ok, I don't have a boatload of friends, but still...

And the female tv critic here in "family-friendly-to-ad-nauseum" St. Louis gave it a great review before the premier. I'm glad she did, because I would have missed the show without seeing her article.

So, I wouldn't say it's evolution, society, upbringing, or that you are wrong. Maybe you're hanging with the wrong crowd! :^)

jeanie...probably the oldest living SouthPark fan

mtangardJeanie

Once upon a time women were raised (conditioned) to be repelled by almost anything slightly risque or off-color. I don't think that's the case now. Your girlfriend and Jeannie's friends (below) are probably more typical.

All the women I know who've watched it (ok, that's only 3) liked it too. But none of them is the kind of a self-important snob that Susan Stewart is. As I recall, Ms. Stewart doesn't think it's OK to like *anything* on TV (or film). I doubt it has much to do with her gender.

You mean some have already died?

Mark (age 44, can you top that?)

-- Mark Tangard - SF CA ---------------------------- --------------- "Life is nothing if you aren't obsessed." --John Waters
Jeaniemtangard

Haven't you heard? Kids everywhere are imitating Kenny and The Kooks want to ban the show. These kids had no idea that lopping off your head or skewering yourself on a flagpole would do you in. ;-)

I bow to your age!!

jeanie Charter Member of Caustic Bitches Local 666 grep this!

Mark AdamsJeanie

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That's great!!! Don't we need/want less stupid people in our lives anyway?

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if CC stops South park from killing off kenny every week to stop influencing kids like they sort of did with Beavis & Butthead, the show won't be the same

Prepper99 wrote:

Actually, this brings up a more significant issue. How long, do you think, it will be before Kenny's weekly deaths stop being fresh, funny, & witty, and just turn into 'Ho hum. Kenny died.' When the first episode aired, and the aliens shot him/stampede ran him over/cop car mowed him down, I literally fell off my couch laughing. When I learned that he'd be dying on a weekly basis, I thought it was great, at first. But, with subsequent episodes, the sheer concept of Kenny dying has become more and more routine. At this point, it's still funny, just because his deaths get more and more outageous (such as being tossed into a microwave and char-roasted) but, nevertheless, the running joke of Kenny's death has potential to get worn out in the future.

E.MisinYou

I personally get more laughs from who/what Kyle shouts "YOU BASTARDS!" at. <shrug>

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In article , [email] (MisinYou) writes:

It will eventually. Hopefully, they will pick on someone else with a new theme. Like... what sick thing does Mr. Garrison do this week??? [email]

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In article , [email] (MisinYou) writes:

It's just fun to watch how Kenny will die each week.

I've been wondering how long the gimmic is going to last too. I was rather disappointed by the Kenny death in this week's episode. Kenny dying was a lot funnier in SoXmas when you didn't know he was going to be back

In article , [email] (OgreMag DG) wrote:

I look forward to Kenny's death as much for Stan's weekly reaction...

"You bastards!"

I love it when Kenny gets cooked in the microwave, pops out a skeleton, and Stan turns toward the microwave and yells "You bastard!"

Davin

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In article , [email] (Davin C. Flateau) wrote:

Sorry - I meant Kyle.

Davin

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JeaniePrepper99

On 13 Sep 1997 14:10:44 GMT, [email] (Prepper99) said:

It was a joke, son. ;-)

jeanie "My karma ran over my dogma."_Ader

In article , [email] wrote:

Got into this thread a little late, but allow me to add: I'm a 45-year old female fan of South Park. My introduction to Stan and Eric, et al. was from seeing "The Spirit of Christmas" video at a Tool concert. Hmmm...a 45-year old woman at a Tool concert -- I guess there are a *lot* of stereotypes I don't quite fit...

Susan

In article , [email] (Justin Deal) wrote:

My wife howled at the first viewing of South Park - we are both huge fans! You certainly can't be a prude - you have to have a pretty loose sense of humor.

Davin

Davin C. Flateau - [email] http://www1.usa1.com/~davin/ http://www.laserfantasy.com/~mlutz/pltm/ What time does the 5:30 show start?

Ahem. I'm a woman and I not only love South Park, B&B, and the Simpsons, I also love The Tick, Rocko's Modern Life, King of the Hill and others.

Some of us are sane, ya know.

As a woman (and yes, I think that "chick" is acceptable), I just have to say that South Park is the most repugnant, inane, obscene tv show I have ever seen, and I WANT MORE!!! I can't get enough. It's easily the funniest stuff I've ever seen on tv (with the exception of the Tick). I also religiously watched OZ all summer. They ONLY reason I have ever watched the Real World is to scream at those pretentious little shits oh the tv. It's NOT my real world baby.

Thankfully, I can say that I have a boyfriend who loves all this stuff as much as me, so there are few tv wars in our house. Enough ranting for now, just wanted to add my two cents.

-Laura

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I am a female who loves this kind of humor (excluding B&B). Most of my female friends enjoy it too. I think it is a matter of having a sense of humor in the first place and it also takes some intelligence. This kind of humor isn't blatant like slapstick. You have to watch closely to catch things, and you have to be well read to understand much of the humor. You have to think to enjoy it. I think this stuff goes over a lot of peoples' heads. People who enjoy this type of humor are also very open-minded.

My wife loves the show. What is really amazing is my 70-something in-laws laughed their asses off watching the the Aliens episode.

That *IS* amazing... what I think is equally, if not more amazing, is getting my normally insane right wing, Simpson bashing mom to dissolve into hysterics after forcing her to listen to a Cartman .wav over and over... (the "NO, Kitty, dis is MY Pot-Pie-ah! NO KITTY GET BACK! NO KITTY! DIS IS MY POT-PIE-AH! Mom, Kitty's bein' a Dildo!" one..) she actually went and looked up the show in the tv guide as we spoke over the phone to see when it was coming on so she could catch it... ('course, I get the sneaking feeling if there are any anal probes or explosive diarreha she'll be switching it off..) ~

"If I were stranded on a desert island and could only have one book, one record, and one person, I'd probably die of exposure." --Dave Foley "I once shot a man just to watch him die. Then I got distracted, and I missed it." --Dave Foley

Not to worry. An article in *next* week's TV Guide by J. Max Robins notes that South Park is CC's *highest-rated* original show. Looks like it'll be around for a while, offending those who most require offending. Good. Also, CC is airing a six-episode SP marathon next week (Fri/19th, 11pm).

-- Mark Tangard - SF CA ---------------------------- --------------- "Life is nothing if you aren't obsessed." --John Waters

notes

Am I the only person whose TVGuide does not list Comedy Central?

In article , [email] wrote:

(setting my VCR)

I can't believe how much people want to tell them what do think and do. I don't know how many people liked MTV's The State, but when it first came on, the reviews were so bad, the cast actually read them on an episode. And I thought it was as close to Monty Python as American humor got!

That reviewer just missed the boat entirely.

Davin

Davin C. Flateau - [email] http://www1.usa1.com/~davin/ http://www.laserfantasy.com/~mlutz/pltm/ What time does the 5:30 show start?

They're third graders? Damn. I thought they were in 6th. Heh, that even makes it funnier.

Cone