"I'm super serial"

Looks like "Super Serial"'s been awarded a prize of some sort... http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/2007/

"Opinicus" wrote in message news:[email]...

Yeah, Arafat got the same prize...

He deserved it as much as Peres and Rabin.

"Joel" wrote in message news:[email]...

Who's *he*... Gore, or Arafat?

Aww, run away from your ignorant comment, geek. Loser.

wow. That's what you come back with? 'nuff said.

"Buckaroo Banzai" wrote:

What did you want, a pat on the back for being retarded? You don't get to pretend that your *racism* is somehow the de facto winner in a discussion. You ran away from the issue taken with your first comment - that the Israeli counterparts in the situation in question can be criticized - and gee, I wonder why that would be. It's OK to be critical of Arafat, since he was Different Looking And/Or Religion Than You, but you turn a blind eye to the Israelis.

"Joel" wrote in message news:[email]...

Classic... you side with a race of people who look down on your enemy's supposed target... yet you call *them* racist.

Translation, All Arabs consider Palestinians unworthy, which is why they were trash to begin with.

Get a clue you dumbshit.

Okay, you've pissed me off enough to care. I don't run away from my solid comment. Who are you comparing? Arafat to Peres and Rabin? Are you kidding me? Shit. Name call as much as you want. Everyone knows that Yassar Arafat is and was a terrorist. He was Black September. Now if you want to attempt to compare Israelis defending themselves against Muslim murderers. Then I'll stand against you any day of the week. I'll not say that Israelis haven't gone overboard, they have... but compared to the muslims... SHIT!... you have no case. And I spit on you.

Buckaroo Banzai wrote:

You have it all figured out, do you? Palestinians baaaaaaaaaad, Israeli's gooood, eh? Never mind the fact that the state of Israel was founded on terrorism, followed by a genocide. But those goddamn Palestinians just won't die quietly and make more space in the land they lived for centuries so that people who have no fucking connection to that land whatsoever (other that some imaginary dude in the sky "promised" it to them) can move in and occupy that land. And you, an American taxpayer idiot not only keep repeating without thinking the stupid propaganda that is served to you courtesy of the Israeli lobby, you get to subsidize it to the tune of over 6 billion a year and you are convinced you are correct in supporting the US Middle East policy which is completely against every American interest in that region.

Fantastic. A bunch of bandits break into your home, kill a half of your family, expel the rest and when you fight back "they are just defending themselves against you murderers". But hey, they have the deed to your house signed by God. Who the fuck are you to demand one eighth of your house back?

Charles & Mambo Duckman wrote:

Yes indeed. It was called the Holocaust.

The Palestinians assassinated a U.S. presidential candidate, pushed an old man in a wheelchair off an ocean liner, murdered nearly a dozen Olympic athletes, and frequently strap bombs to their children and send them into shopping centers to blow up innocent people, while their late leader amassed a fortune and had his own family living comfortably in Paris.

The Israelis ran over a bimbo with a bulldozer.

Who's the lesser of two evils again?

Reaper G wrote:

[sigh] There's no rational conversation with the deliberately ignorant and stupid. You know your truth, don't let anyone's facts disturb your carefully constructed bullshit-land.

And Israel came about how exactly? They sat down with the British who were occupying Palestine at the time and shared feelings over tea and scones? Then, having successfully convinced the British with nice pleads to leave, they sat down with the Palestinians and shared feelings again, this time over tea and falafels? Sure enough, the Jews were again very convincing, the Palestinians agreed to surrender their lands they have lived in for centuries, they were compensated and left in hundreds of thousands to live as refugees in Jordan, Syria, Lebanon and Egypt for over 50 years voluntarily. What little Palestinian population stayed in their ghettos agreed that the loss of their land was more than fair, signed the agreement stating that the formation of Israel is a fait accompli and therefore they understood that any resistance and attempt to regain a fraction of their land would be considered terrorism and totally unacceptable in the eyes of the simpletons in the US.

Whoever moves into the land where you and your ancestors have lived for centuries, kills and expels the majority of the population and then bitches and whines when the indigenous population fights back with any means possible.

You know, it's not a shame to be an ignorant stupid ass, it's a shame to be a deliberately ignorant and stupid ass.

War is war, some win and some lose, that's the facts of life. My only problem with the Israel-Palestine question is Israel's hijacking of the US Middle East policy that now goes against every US interest and the Israeli's incessant bitching and moaning about "terrorists" who are killing them. They stole other people's land and now they want to be left in peace so that they can enjoy their US welfare handout check without being disturbed? Who and where declared game over? You steal other people's land, be prepared to suffer the consequences. Fuck you.

Charles & Mambo Duckman wrote:

Talking to yourself?

Great way to acknowledge the crimes of Arafat and his followers. Sorry, but I refuse to oppose bad people by supporting worse people. Just because Bush stinks doesn't mean I'm going to support Castro or Chavez. Let the empty-headed Chomskyites in their Che T-shirts do that.

And who are they targeting, the Israeli government and military, or average Joes minding their own business?

At least I'm smart enough to admit I don't know everything. Try it sometime.

Reaper G wrote:

Yes, I see you addressed all the underlying issues that I named, namely the fact that it was the Jews who committed an act of genocide by expelling hundreds of thousands of Palestinians and giving their property away to someone who had no connection whatsoever to Palestine. Also the fact that the US Middle East policy is controlled by the Israeli lobby to the detriment of the American interests.

Way to argue the facts, dumbass.

Done with rambling? What has (my, I suppose) supporting the cause of the Palestinians and their right to their land have to do with any bullshit you spouted above? Bush, Castro, Chomsky, Che, what are you, drunk?

Who are they supposed to be targeting? When you live in a ghetto like an animal while your land is being populated by invaders, you fight with whatever you have. Imagine for a second that some aliens from outer space invade the US, expel hundreds of millions and move in a billion of their own from some fucking planet, because some deity promised it to them. Now you tell me that you wouldn't try to kill as many motherfuckers as you possibly could and you would adhere to some goddamn Geneva conventions while your relatives and friends die off in refugee camps who knows where? I know I would blow up as many of their kindergartens as I possibly could. You feel free to throw rocks at their superior military flying fortresses. See how far that gets you.

This is an understatement of the year. It's not your problem that you don't know everything, but that you think you know the truth by repeating the bumperstickers you overhear on the TV. God forbid you should actually read other sources and use your head for some thinking instead for merely supporting your hat. Why do you think that every single UN resolution aimed at the Israel/Palestine problem since 1948 has been vetoed by the US even though the majority of member countries voted "yes"? Because somehow the US is the only country in the world capable of seeing clearly and others are morons?

But hey, feel free to ignore this point as well like you normally do and instead ramble on about Arafat and Che Guevara.

Charles & Mambo Duckman wrote:

Well, are they expelling Palestinians or eradicating them? Make up your mind.

I hardly ever touch the stuff. I brought that up to show how hypocritical people like you are. And who's trying to get rid of who again? Jewish interlopers trying to coexist with Palestinian neighbors, or Arabs (stirred up by Nazi agents in the 1930s and '40s) trying to get rid of indigenous (sp?) Jews?

Because you're an immoral coward.

And you're different... how?

Reaper, may I remind you of the definition of insanity? I only say this because CM Duckman sucked me into responding to his shit yet again... but he isn't listening, he's only waiting for his turn to respond...

Buckaroo Banzai wrote:

You're right, Buck. His "I'm smarter than you and if you disagree with me I hate your guts" mentality would be less sad if he was actually smart. I probably shouldn't respond to him either, but then he wouldn't have anyone to talk to at all.

Reaper G wrote:

Oh, look, I made an Internet romance happen. Call me when you two kids get hitched.

Yes... despite your irrational need to paint shades of gray despite there being none, I *know* who *my* enemies are. I don't know what country you're from... but I guarantee you one thing. Just as the Palestinians cheered 9/11, they also cheered 3/11, and 7/7. But then again, I don't even know who you are, you seem pompous so I'm guessing you're from Europe... Where *are* you from? I think that will better narrow my criticism. I'm betting that you're European. Will you have the balls to admit it if you are?

Palestinians baaaaaaaaaad, Israeli's

Depending on what side you're on, yes.

Wrong. The state of Israel was founded by the United Nations. The genocide of the 'palestinians' was of course because of Muslims not wanting to welcome them into their own countries...

'centuries'... I love it. Who was the president of 'Palestine before Yassar Arafat? What was the official currency of 'Palestine' in 1930?

The 'palestines' were hated by all the A-rabs... Jordan didn't want them, Egypt didn't want them.... do I need to go on? The Palestinian problem is the responsibility of Muslims and muslims alone.

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Again, blame the U.N., don't blame the U.S. or the Isralies....

Address my responses intelligently and I just might concede that I'm an 'American taxpayer idiot'... but please, don't bring emotion, bring fact.

Fantastic. The *police* come to your door and explain that due to emenint domain you have to move out, you contact your *supposed* neighbors for help in relocating and they shut you out... Of course the logical next step is to blame the innocent new residents....

WHAT EVER...

Bravo for you. Of course, you have no fucking clue *why* they're your enemies, but hey, that's why you have politicians and TV preachers do your thinking for you.

And again, you think, pardon me, you are under the impression that this was created out of vacuum, that the Palestinians have absolutely no reason whatsoever to dislike the US and its policies, despite the endless streak of UNSC vetoes, blind and unquestionable support of Israel and sending cash and arms to Israel so they can continue to oppress them unimpeded.

Really, why should you waste your precious brain resources figuring out the reasons for the hate of America in the Muslim world, when you can simply absorb the gems such as:

- they hate us because we're good - they hate us because we're free - pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way - they are responsible for 9/11

Do you need me to be from Europe? Is "being European" some sort of communicable disease that I had to admit to? What does my country of birth, origin or residence have to do with the topic of discussion, besides provide a red herring and a strawman you can then proceed to burn?

Can you be any more juvenile? This "side taking" is OK if you're under 15 or George W. Bush, but for an adult it is a little juvenile.

[snip results of a 3-second oh-shit-I-have-to-appear-as-I-have-a-fucking-clue-of-what-I'm-talking-about Google search]

First of all, "palestines" is not a word. Inhabitants of Palestine are called Palestinians and the word is capitalized. You're welcome. Second, this is your argument? That some nation is "hated" by Arabs, therefore they are not entitled to their homeland, their human rights and survival as a nation? Third, there are hundreds of thousands of Palestinian refugees living in neighboring countries' refugee camps who are being denied the return to their homes and/or compensation for their loss. How is this the responsibility of one particular religion, again? I don't see a connection.

Like you addressed my points intelligently, by googling and by taking sides, is that it? Facts are there, easy for you to check, you can find out the entire history of the Palestine conflict, the UN resolutions that offer a solution and the enormous amounts of cash and blind support of Israel by every US administration contrary to every interest of the US. But, again, why would you bother? You already know who your enemies are.

Yeah, your analogy is impeccable. What a stupid ass.

You know what.... ugh. Why do I respond to this stupidity? I'm a glutton for punishment. Did the Jews need to have a 'fucking clue *why*' the Nazi's were their enemies? Did the Indians need to have a 'fucking clue *why*' the White man was their enemy? The only thing that is important is to realize that *they* are your enemy. Something the Jews and Indians found out too late.

The palestinians are my enemy. They did not become that way 'out of a vacuum'. We send Millions in aid to the palestinians. They hate us because we also support Jews....... I'm sorry, I refuse to debate this. Not because I can't, but because it's an insult to me to pretend that palestinians aren't my enemy.

Yeah... America and England really directed precious brain resources into figuring out why the Nazi's and Japs attacked us in WWII.

You are an enemy loving traitor to your country.... unless you live in the middle-east, in which case, kudos to you!!!

Hey, you're the one who said it was a disease.

First of all fuck you for your 'red herring' comment and your 'strawman' comment. What a cop-out!!!

If you can't understand how geography affects this issue, then you're just plain stupid.

Could you be anymore stupid? You have absolutely no idea what it means to have real enemies... you rely on this *supposed* superior morality, which you assign to these animals based on your idea on how they should act. What an idiot.

Wrong. The inhabitants of palestine are called Jordanians, and muslim rejects. Name the *Palestinian leader before Arafat. Name the national currency of *Palestine* prior to 1947.

No, I'm saying that the Jews are not the enemy of the palestinians, their fellow muslims are.

Yeah, you're right... Christians don't have a responsibility to other Christians, Jews don't have a responsibility to other Jews, and muslims don't have a responsibility to other muslims.

I'm sorry, you're right... Taking sides in a debate is wrong.... Just like taking sides in a war is wrong. I can't believe I'm still arguing with you. What an idiot.

Again- I know all about the palestinian conflict... I know how it began and the result today.

My analogy is nothing more than correct.

Please move to the middle-east and take up arms... at least I could respect you then.

Buckaroo Banzai wrote:

And how exactly your examples translate into "Palestinians are my enemies"? Because you are illiterate and unable to distinguish between different nationalities, countries, nations and groups of people simply because they share one common thing - their religion? Your picture should be under the "stereotype of American idiot".

[snip shit that a five-year old would be embarrassed to espouse]

So long, retard. And now quickly, back to Fox News and Rush Limbaugh, so you can find out what else you think.

On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:02:21 -0400, Joel wrote:

. . . and Rabin got assasinated for his effort . . .

Yup, they can't even make half-assed progress without drawing fire (literally) from the maniacal Israeli racists and warlords. To think it was over something as insulting to the Palestinians as creating the PA - imagine if they had actually shown generosity to those useless sand niggers!

Buckaroo Banzai wrote:

I heard there's a curse that goes along with it - Martin Luther King Jr. and Anwar Sadat were killed not too many years after winning.

-- Don