anti south park

check out this web page i found. it's dedicated to being against south park and everything south park related.

Sweepings wrote in message ...

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Yep I went there. The only guy who signed the guest book had an e-mail address beginning with dimebag....so I guess the only people against SouthPark is the creator of the page and Smoked up, drugged out crackheads who toke a wee bit too much in their daily lives.

Kids... Drugs are bad ... kay.

Richard Alvey wrote ;

Richard Alvey wrote in article

crackheads

hey, man, let me tell you something. if you knew anything about people who do smoke pot or <insert drug here>, i GUARANTEE you that the vast majority of them would like the show. the only people i can think of who WOULDN'T like the show are fucking conservative, biblethumping, just say no, intolerant fools who wouldn't know how to have fun if jesus himself was lighting a pipe for them (and i guarantee you, jesus smoked some type of herbs back then; in that whole middle-eastern part of the world, that's where the whole idea of pipes came from, unless the indians beat them to it, but they developed separately)

so before you start making sweeping generaliatrions like that, make sure you know what you're talking about.

Regards, killerB

killerB wrote in article

excuse my spelling, "generalizations."

Regards, killerB

Sweepings wrote:

This guy has no clue what he's talking about. It's like watching Monty Python and saying, "What's so funny about a swallow and a coconut? One's a bird and the other is a food product, there's nothing funny about that." Get it? No? That's my point.

Sweepings wrote:

Leave it up to an 16 year old teenager to try and analize a show as complexe as South Park. See the label kid, 18 years and older means 18 years and older. It applies not only to the content but to the audience's ability to understand it.

Jon

In article , Jon writes

Oh no, South Park is definitely for the 18+!

With me being 13 does that mean I have to stop watching? And there was me thinking I could understand it too, doh!

I don't like what the guy has done but it a'int down to you to say that South Park is for 18+. All my 13 yr old mates watch it and really enjoy it so watch your mouth next time..

Heh. Some of these people..... I definitely agree with you, Mike! The 18 + thing is just a standard. There are plenty of exceptions. Basically, I'd just go by the individual person, not their age, on determining if they can watch a show, movie, etc. I've seen 18 year olds that I wouldn't allow to see a PG movie, if I was their parent! :) Maturity doesn't really have all that much to do with age. Just only if you're going to compare a 5 year old to a 25 year old, then it does have bearing. But comparing a 15 year old (that's my age) to an 18 year old (for example), it only has to do with how mature the *person* *themself* is. An age is a number, not your brain.

~Kyle Broslofski~

In article , Kyle Broslofski writes

Good.

Well it does depend a little on the show, but South Park? It just a cartoon. If it was a drama series and the killings (even tho there aren't many) would look more adult. But you can't get an 18+ for a cartoon!

Obviously, but the guy wasn't. He was comparing 13 to 18. So I felt really angry, just cos I'm 13 DOESN'T mean I have any less right to watch my favourite show!

Exactly.

Just because it's animated, does not mean it is automatically for children. Some of the SP content is really inappropriate for kids, but not all of it. I'd rather let kids watch it, and hope that they "don't get it" than ban them...what's the point...all the sneaky little bastards will watch it anyway.

Sorry, but there is a big difference between 13 and 18. Age may not make you mature, but the fact of the matter is that with age comes privileges of being older. Hopefully too some wisdom.

So although you may feel it's your "right" to watch SP at age 13, you are wrong. It's not your "right" at all. You are below the age advisory - well here in Canada anyway - so indeed you sneaky little bastard, you have the privilege of watching the funniest animation on tv.

Good on you for being a sneaky little bastard, but, just remember children, what you see on tv, well...guns and schools do not mix. Flaming Farts and diarrhea...thats another story...

In article , Hayley writes

I know that there are people here who have read this argument a hundred times and I sympathise about that. So if you want to read my opinions on this then read otherwise just skip it.

No it isn't, I agree with you.

I don't know what about South Park I'm not going to understand!

A lot of failed relationships and some exams.

It's not my rights? Well excuse me! My family paid for out TV, paid our TV licence so that gives me the right thankyou!

I'm not snealky at all! My parents don't mind me watching it, in fact they even read my fanfics!

This would all be the other way round if YOU were 13 I bet!

Mike Jakeman wrote:

When you reach 18 and get out of high school you'll notice what the real difference is.Alot of maturity comes to you very quickly when you leave your sheltered teenage life and step into the real world.

No it doesn't. Those are all privileges.Try and understand the difference between rights and privileges before you speak.

Yes well he isn't 13 now is he. Privileges come with age. Wait your turn.

Jon

In article , Jon writes

And this new found maturity will help me understand what South Park is about? So for all you under 18's out there just wait a couple of years and you'll find out exactly what it is you're watching.

So my privilage will turn into a right when I'm 18?

You just said I already had a privilege, but not a right so I suggest that you get your argument sussed.

Mike Jakeman wrote:

Ok, when someone quotes a single line and replies to it. What he writes applies to that line exclusively. Try and put that into effect next time.

Wether you're 18 or 13 or 38. Owning a TV, living in an area where people are gracious enough to broadcast programming over the airwaves for your TV and so on are all privileges. You don't see starving kids in Africa crying because they have the right to watch South Park now do you but aren't allowed to now do you? Look up the definition of privilege in a dictionary.

Lets put everything in it's place first. 1- You have the privilege of owning a television and being able to watch programming on it. 2- Another privilege that comes with age is to have access to a wider array of programming containing subject matters not always suitable to a younger audience.

Two different privileges. I suggest you understand what someone else is saying before you reply to it.

Jon wrote in message ...

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shut up you pedantic wankers or I'll kick you in the NUTS! Shut up goddamit! Nobody give a rats ass!

James

Cole wrote:

Oh please do try and kick me in the nuts. You just love the fact that you can say whatever you want in here with no consequence don't you? Come over here and say this to my face!

Jon

Jon wrote in message ...

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Knash. I was quoting (only not quite) Cartman. I was trying to be funny, but it didn't work very well. This is not debate, its pedantic bickering over semantic. Your arguments are based on nothing important and are simply an excuse for you to go at eachothers throats. Its funny the way you're all arguing over maturity and all have the mental age of eleven. Actually, your all very sad indeed.

James

In article , "Cole" writes:

Anybody else reminded of the classic Monty Python "Argument" sketch?

Jeremy B

"Our special tonight is poached 'go to hell'"- Crow T. Robot

On 14 Aug 1998 00:36:31 GMT, [email] (KrytenToo) wrote:

This isn't an argument! It's contradiction!

I love that quote.

Which movie were they watching?

----- Lone Wolf AKA Powerslave My Kung-Fu is the best.

"It was as if the lights dimmed just for him." - Steve Buscemi, Desperado

"Into the flood again... same old trip it was back then... so I made a big mistake... try to see it once my way..." - Alice in Chains, "Would"

"Hello... my name is Berg... and I'm addicted to messing with Pete." - Two Guys, a Girl, and a Pizza Place

In article , [email] (Lone Wolf (Chris Baile)) writes:

No it isn't!

Jeremy B

"Our special tonight is poached 'go to hell'"- Crow T. Robot

On 16 Aug 1998 15:14:10 GMT, [email] (KrytenToo) wrote:

That's it... I'm going to the complaint department!

"I want to make a complaint!" *WHACK!* "OW!" "No.... say WAH! Let's try it again." *WHACK!* "Stop hitting me!" "What?" "Stop hitting me! Isn't this the complaint department?" "No, it's getting hit on the head lessons in here." "What a stupid concept!"

----- Lone Wolf AKA Powerslave My Kung-Fu is the best.

"It was as if the lights dimmed just for him." - Steve Buscemi, Desperado

"Into the flood again... same old trip it was back then... so I made a big mistake... try to see it once my way..." - Alice in Chains, "Would"

"Just because you ARE a character doesn't mean that you HAVE character." - Winston Wolf (Harvey Keitel), Pulp Fiction

In article , [email] (Lone Wolf (Chris Baile)) writes:

That's it! I'm Inspector Jack Russell Terrier of Scotland Yard, special Usenet division! I'm placing you all under arrest for: 1: Gratuitous Monty Python quoting. 2: Asking for the Lyrics to the "bitch" song when you know they're in the FAQ 3: In a related charge, replacing the accepted "King Kamehameha" with increasingly inane substitutes. 4: Feeding trolls.

Jeremy B

"Our special tonight is poached 'go to hell'"- Crow T. Robot

On 17 Aug 1998 01:55:51 GMT, [email] (KrytenToo) wrote:

Hey! Chill your ass out there, slappy. I have NEVER asked for the lyrics to the "Bitch" song... if anything, I'm TIRED of seeing people repeatedly ask for the lyrics.

Uh

what?

Guilty... but they're SO cute!

----- Lone Wolf AKA Powerslave My Kung-Fu is the best.

"It was as if the lights dimmed just for him." - Steve Buscemi, Desperado

"Into the flood again... same old trip it was back then... so I made a big mistake... try to see it once my way..." - Alice in Chains, "Would"

"Just because you ARE a character doesn't mean that you HAVE character." - Winston Wolf (Harvey Keitel), Pulp Fiction

Stop, stop stop! Everybody here is under arrest, this skit is way too silly. No, if there is one thing I won't allow, it's silliness.

Lone Wolf (Chris Baile) wrote in message ...

but

No it isn't! (Long thread forthcoming)

The Eye of Ra, Master Brick Cutter, Pyramids R Us

tsk tsk tsk...

I believe what our dear mr Cole is trying to say to you all is that this conversation is nothing more that a battle-of-wits-fest between two people, and if you're going to post your responses on a discussion newsgroup, then you're going to get some people jumping on and throwing their two cents into the hat..I though someone with your intelligence would expect this at some point. Now, if you don't want unwanted posters, you could always do the right thing and take this to mail, that way you don't get Cartman quoters. I will be nice and tell ya right now that no one gives a rats ass here aboot "rights" and "privelidges" and what not...I think i can safely say the general concensus here is "Cop didn't see it, I didn't do it."

Have a nice day...:)

Sir Galahad - "Don't even think aboot it" http://www.primenet.com/~srgalhad

Jon wrote in article ...

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If there's one thing the South Park phenomenon has highlighted, it's the widespread *underestimation* by supposed "adults" of the intelligent and maturity of American teenagers.

There's no reality-based reason to tell people to "wait their turn" to have opinions and insights when they're already smart enough and aware enough to understand the principles of (and the satire within) the things they're exposed to -- including things like South Park. Overall, some of the most intelligent and insightful comments I've heard about South Park over the past year (it's almost a year old now) have come from people who can't even get a driver's license yet.

Age discrimination takes many forms, but the routine, gratuitous, and categorical dismissal of the opinions of "the underage" is perhaps the most reprehensible of all. If you're afflicted with this notion -- the notion that years, in and of themselves, confer intelligence -- I have only one piece of advice: get over yourself, pigfucker.

BTW, I'm 46.

Poor old timer, obviously senile, can't be held responsible for his ravings. THANK YOU POPS, GOOD POST....ya have to humor them.

An object in possession seldom retains the same charm that it had in pursuit. -Gaius Plinius

mtangard@[REMOVE_THIS_TO_REPLY]CRL.com wrote:

Ok. Let me stop you right there pops. When did I say that they had to wait their turn to have their own opinions??? Maybe you should get those glasses adjusted, huh!

Jon

[snip]

It's overtly implied in the third quoted line above: "Wait your turn." Get your own glasses adjusted... sonnyboy -- I don't wear any. Don't sit there on your ample ass (hell, if you can make baseless assumptions, so can I...) yelping about "privileges" & then claim you aren't trying to stifle opinions by telling people to "wait [their] turn."

But beyond that, who the hell are you to decree the rules for TV watching in private homes? The choices made by the parents of 13-year-old posters aren't being offered here for approval by you (or any other garden-variety control freak). If you can't participate here without raising a stink over those issues, nobody's ever gonna take you seriously and you might as well be typing with your PC turned off.

Your user ID is sadly appropriate, but it's never gonna change anything.

mtangard@[REMOVE_THIS_TO_REPLY]CRL.com wrote:

Nice psychic wannabe analysis of my writing pops but wrong. Maybe your mind isn't quite what it used to be. You're imagining things that aren't even there. That's bad. All I said was that privileges come with age and that that little kid is going to have to wait until he's 18 himself to enjoy them. Nothing more.

Oooh. That's nice. Now let me throw this back around at you. Who are you to decree the guidelines based on whitch people decide take others seriously on this newsgroup huh? If you don't want to read my posts, then stick me into your kill file and good riddance. I couldn't give less of a shit what some person on the other side of the planet thinks of me.

Very mature! Sounds like something a teenager would pull out of his ass.

You ENJOY these so-called "privileges" that you got when you turned 18? Personally, I wished I never got them. Being 17 and under is the best. I'd give up paying rent, going to jail, working for assholes, becoming a regular part of the system, etc., to have that naive, wide-eyed look upon my face when I went to school and smoked pot, stole beer, watched SNL and shows like South Park, renting Porky's and Kentucky Fried Movie and just laughed, not analyzing it along with my rights and privileges. I think its all bullshit about you trying to defend yourself when you should just remember the good times you had when you were a kid. You can't negotiate with someone when they know you think you're better than them.

There is no basis for you to decide who must wait. You sound like you're barely 13 yourself, too self-absorbed to realize that most people see that, and too spoiled to realize you can't control other people's input.

That wasn't a "guideline," oh illiterate one; it's a prediction. You are the one making decrees, junior.

Now, when did I ever say that? I feel your posts are essential to this forum -- every newsgroup needs a laughingstock.

Eeeuugghh! Granted, someone probably should "stick you" but don't look around here for that favor.

The only good thing about attitudes like yours is that they'll probably prevent you from ever reproducing.

mtangard@[REMOVE_THIS_TO_REPLY]CRL.com wrote:

Well. Look who's true colors are shining through. You post a few pseudo-intelligent posts and then go ranting with immature dribble and childish insults. You're nothing more than a little punk aren't you? 46 my ass.

Jon

FUCK SOUTH PARK On Fri, 07 Aug 1998 01:12:41 -0400, Jon wrote:

On Fri, 07 Aug 1998 01:12:41 -0400, Jon wrote:

FUCK SOUTH PARK

In article , Kyle Broslofski writes

You're right. Age is just how many years you've been alive. It doesn't account for the experiences you've had, and how knowledgable you are, etc. I understand SP! But I know some 20-yr. olds that wouldn't have a clue, seriously! (I'm 15 btw. :) Dulcy - ICQ# 1409237

I know this may sound strange coming from me (for those of you who were here when Yashar was breathing down my neck) but are we talking about this *again*?!

Marguerrite, Hunter of the Infamous Matt and Trey (they call me Kim, but I know better) Aka Crabtree-Norn "Sit down and shut up!" "&^*$ Censorship!"-originated on alt.tv.southpark

In article , GUMPELS writes

I haven't been here long, so forgive me.. :)

Dulcy - ICQ# 1409237

Hehe...I just felt like I needed to say it..this conversation strikes up every few weeks, usually when the show is rerunning. Please, powers that be, speed up these weeks until we reach the new eppies! I *need* to see the episode where Kenny has chicken pox!

Marguerrite, Hunter of the Infamous Matt and Trey (they call me Kim, but I know better) Aka Crabtree-Norn "Sit down and shut up!" "&^*$ Censorship!"-originated on alt.tv.southpark

In article , GUMPELS writes

Feel sorry for us Brits! :) We're only on the 5th episode or so...

Dulcy - ICQ# 1409237

dulcy wrote:

Not strictly true.

Us Brits can/have seen all of series 1.

(Mind you, you did need a satellite dish and a Sky TV subscription)

And let's not forget that every South Park episode that's aired in the US, is available to you, Brit or not, here on the internet!

I've seen all of (what's aired of) series 2, and I can assure you that it's better than series 1.

In article , Peter

I have a satellite dish and Sky TV, I just always missed SP for some reason or another before! I was talking about the general non Sky- viewing public. :)

Dulcy - ICQ# 1409237

Mike Jakeman wrote:

And I'm *not* the one saying that it's for 18+. It's been rated that way remember. I'm not saying that every single person under 18 years of age shouldn't watch the show. But the majority of young kids shouldn't. Not because they won't enjoy it, but because they won't understand it for what it really is. Sure there are some younger kids mature enough to understand it for what it really is but they don't make the norm. And at 13 I doubt that you are watching SP for the same reasons older people are. Put a 18+ rating on something and it'll attract teenagers like a magnet. The fact that your "mates" enjoy it means nothing. The real question is WHY do they enjoy it.

Jon

In article , Jon wrote:

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I'm 14. I watch it for the surrealism... it reminds me of half an hour of Monty Python animations. Also it's really a great parody of childhood. Wow, lookit me! I'm sooo mature!

(Now "Duckman", THAT'S something you watch for the crudeness.)

Martin

"I do not vote for politicians. It only encourages them."

--Mark Twain

In article , [email] (Martin Hazelbower) writes:

Oh, c'mon, they had plenty of surrealism. Remember the aliens with VCR's in their asses?

Jeremy B

"Our special tonight is poached 'go to hell'"- Crow T. Robot

In article ,

Oh yeah. Or maybe the giant inflatable sex woman of death terrorizing the town :)

Martin

"I do not vote for politicians. It only encourages them."

--Mark Twain

In article , Jon writes

Oh dear, as if I need reminding.

Seems like you haven't spend much time with teenagers then.

Oh at last. And it isn't just me.

Oh I see. Because I could make a fool of you then you accept its alright for me to watch it and watch for the right reasons. What makes you think my mates are any different?

Okay Jon, why do YOU watch South Park?

SP is for 18+ so you fucking watch your mouth next time you little piss ant piece of shit...GO TO BED!!!!!

In article , [email] (mr.macky @webtv.net) wrote:

Swearing's bad, mmkay? Did you pick up that nasty mouth from something you saw on TV?

Martin

"I do not vote for politicians. It only encourages them."

--Mark Twain

In article , mr.macky @webtv.net writes

Excuse me while I roll around on the floor and laugh my ass off!

sorry mr mackey mmkay

WEll...dis boyhas another page with a bit of humor on southpark...so I decided to have some fun and write his guestbook:

Record 189 Name: Sir Galahad Website: The Sir G Referred by: Just Surfed On In From: Third star on the left & straight on until morning Time: 1998-07-30 21:05:44 Comments: Ok...weed past the immature SP fans that can only say FUCK and go to the right of the brainless SP haters that are jsut jumping on this bandwagon and you'll have my post. As far as i'm concerned, this is prolly the best made Anti-SP site i've seen: It actually has humor! What a concept. Which leads me to believe one of four things...: 1) You ARE a SP fan and made this out of fun. 2) you WERE a SP fan and made this site out of fun 3) You WERE a SP fan and made this site to prove you can write better than Trey or Matt, or 4) You were NEVER a SP fan and have WAY too much fucking time on your hands when you could be out doing much better things with your life like watching 1/2 half of an apple brown. Now, which one is it? My money is on #2

He wrote back this:

Actually, it's 5) I never liked South Park, but I was in a web page design class full of South Park fans and I had to do a web page for a project. I figured I'd test their sense of humor and do this page as a project. When they all blew up at it I knew I had something good, so I put it up on the web. I don't have much time at all really... I design other web pages. I did get an "A+" for this page though! heheheh! Anyway, glad you like the humor. Isn't it funny how angry people get at this stuff? It's COMEDY for crissakes!!

-Khell Parkers

p.s.: ANYBODY can write better than Trey and Matt.

...

Well, I did a mroe thorough search of the site...and yes, there are some people that can write better then Trey or Matt...but not this guy...I cracked a smaile on a few things admittedly(namely the new kid sayings)...but everything else was jsut blah...

Bottom line...it's jsut one person that just doesn't get it and because he's so closed minded, he never will...don't worry aboot it...let him go back to watching Supergirl...after all he likes it..:)

Sir Galahad - "spy for life" http://www.primenet.com/~srgalhad

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Sweepings wrote in message ...

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Yep! I went there, and personally I thought he made some good points, I think a character who keeps dropping a brick on his foot every week would be funny. But I must also disagreeing with him, I believe that if it was done differently every week it would still be funny.

In fact here's a clip from my latest fanfic "Fried Green Salami" or "Soylent Kenny", which introduces Mr. Britts, an assistant janitor (at least in this fanfic, his occupation changes every episode), from the UK, who is hideing out in SP without a green card for dubious reasons.

In case your wondering "waxxins" refer to Mr. Britts freshly waxed floor, also this clip was rewritten to make the brick gag more obvious.

<snip the begining, most of the middle, and the rest of the plot which allows this clip to make sense>

Mr. Britts: Oh look, a rickety 'ol laddar wit sum breeks on it, next ta tis door here. I just waxed tis flo'r and I'd hate ta see theese breeks fall and ruin me waxxins.

[enter Kyle, door swings open violently, tapping the ladder]

Mr. Britts: WATCH OUT!! cha stupid brat, 'u almost knocked over tha laddar.

KYLE: Sorry dude

[Enter Wendy, screaming, behind her]

Wendy: ...No Mr. Garrison! I don't want to eat Mr. Hat's salami!

[Wendy knocks into Kyle who is pushed towards the ladder, which starts to shake more vigorously]

KYLE: HEY! watch it Wendy!

Wendy: Well f*ck you too Kyle!

Mr. Britts: Why dou't ya buth go fook yarselfs, and get away frum me waxxins! {woops better watch what I say, remebur what happened at da last scool when I told a kid ta go fook 'imself}

[Meanwhile, back in the halls]

Cartman: Why sure, Mr. Hat I'd love to eat your meat.

Stan: That's sick Cartman

[Cartman takes large bite out of salami]

Cartman: Huh!? what the hell you talkin' 'bout Stan?

[Cartman eyes salami]

Cartman: Ai! this wasn't near Kenny's corpse was it?

Mr. Garrison: [looking uneasy] well, um, the rats were already eating him when I .....

Cartman: AHHHH! THIS GREEN SALAMI IS MADE OF KENNY!!!!

Mr. Garrison: Well maybe you should let me....

[Cartman goes running off screaming]

Cartman: AI!!! GREEN SALAMI IS MADE OF KENNY!!!! IT'S KENNNNNNY!!!!

KYLE: [hearing the commotion outside] What the fu....

[Cartman runs into Wendy, who bangs into Kyle, who falls into the ladder, tipping it over]

Mr. Britts: Ouh Nooo, dem balance bricks are going to fall.

[a brick falls on Mr. Britts head]

Mr. Britts: OOOCH! that breek fell on me noggin it did. [Looks down to the floor] UOH NOO!!! me waxxins, the breeck that fell on me 'ead is going to fall on me waxxin. Not me waxxin, please nooooo!

[The brick misses the floor and instead lands on Mr. Britts foot]

Mr. Britts: OOOCH!!! me fout. The breeck missed da floor and landed ri't on me fout. ... ... ... <rest of story clipped>

"The Genius" Jamie James "No God, no justice, just me."

This is pretty funny stuff. I especially loved Cartman's outcry when he realizes he's eating salami made of Kenny. When will you post the rest of it? Toni

Jamez wrote: