Now there's a brilliant idea: two days after over 30 people get shot to death in Virginia, let's show an episode of South Park where people are shooting other people left and right...
-- Don
What was Comedy Central thinking?
Apr 19, 2007, 1:41 AM ET39 posts by 16 postersalt.tv.southpark
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"Don Del Grande" wrote in message news:[email]...
Yeah. Jesus Christ, everyone should stop what they're doing, everywhere, until *you* say it's ok to go on with Life.
ANYONE who was watching South Park was *NOT* thinking about VT and how sad they were about it, and were then offended by something done by people who make a living trying to make people laugh, if they were the deserve to be offended!
By your logic, there should be NO shows on ANY channel because something in the content of each and every program everywhere can remind someone somewhere of something happening anywhere in the world on any given day!
Matt & Trey get paid big bucks to make people laugh, that's their purpose. *I* laughed at last night's episode - they did their job - and I thank them for it. EVERY "News" channel has had the Virginia Tech tragedy story running for the past 72 hours - You may thrive on that kind of continuous horror, I needed a laugh-break.
Grow up. The world goes on. If it stopped - the terrorists win!!
"Hey terrorists! Terrorize THIS!"
RobMac wrote...
I'm entertained by horror, but this incident isn't particularly entertaining. I'll wait till I read his manifesto, but so far he's just another schizo who snapped. Even the Columbine killers had the "noble" (?) goal of exacting revenge on the jocks who bullied them, but this guy seems to have picked his victims at random.
If you want entertainment, go to soc.culture.korean and perhaps the other Asian-related newsgroups and watch the ethnic insults they're hurling at each other because the gunman was Korean. The Japanese are certain this proves the inherent inferiority of Koreans, while the Koreans claim that the Chinese KGB brainwashed him in an attempt to shame the Korean people.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- "We truly sit in the shadow of death, or rather the billboard that advertises it. We're all going to die...and if enough people are taking photos, we will all be stars. But it's all really a popularity contest now. How you die. How many people you take with you. What your cause was. How good is your sound byte. We even make martyrs where others, equally and brutally murdered, fall as just statistics." -- Marilyn Manson; "Is Adult Entertainment Killing Our Children? Or is Killing Our Children Entertaining Adults?" ----------------------------------------------------------------------
"nappy-headed ho" wrote in message news:L_LVh.17779$[email]...
I find it interesting that both positions are racist viewpoints. The Japanese consider the Koreans inferior, and the Koreans consider their own race to be incapable of doing what that kid did without something as major as a brainwashing by the Chinese KGB. Both positions judge an entire race and inherently assume that no member of that race could fall outside the parameters they use to describe it.
Stupid generalists.
"That Guy" wrote:
Racism truly is amazing. It necessarily grossly exaggerates any actual differences between the races (which are some, of course), because otherwise it couldn't sustain itself. It necessarily ignores any harm one's own race has done, and blames the problems it has caused for other races on their "flaws" (i.e. whites invading Africa, and wondering why it's in the political turmoil so much of it is in today).
The truth is, *all* races are superior - in some way. And only in a very general sense. Whites are superior (by a little) for certain things, so white supremacists obsess over those things. And it's getting them so far, too. We don't just laugh at them, or anything.
"Joel" wrote in message news:[email]...
I agree
I disagree.
People see all the proof they need for whatever what they want to see. I believe it's called confirmation bias.
Excellent points.
"That Guy" wrote in message news:[email]...
fundamental attribution error
"Somebody" wrote in message news:[email]...
That works, too. There's only one thing that can be known for certain, everything else is just guesswork...
"That Guy" wrote in message news:[email]...
what is that?
"Somebody" wrote in message news:[email]...
Perception exists. Other than that, everything we "know" is based on presumptions and guesses.
That Guy wrote:
Solipsist bullshit.
"That Guy" wrote in message news:[email]...
Sensual perception can be wrong. Such as optical illusions, but most the time is right. Otherwise, we wouldn't survive.
"Somebody" wrote in message news:[email]...
All based on presumptions. Sensual perceptions could be a complete illusion and not even exist, a fabrication in the mind of some sleeping or mad entity beyond our ability to imagine, let alone comprehend. However, the illusion itself is a perception. The "we" that survives could also be an illusion, a dream, a hallucination, or just some bit of interstellar gas reacting with a radiation field in such a way as to simulate the sensation of the existence of stars, planets and one planet in particular populated with all forms of life, one of which is typing this message.
Everything relies on assumptions that can't be proven, except the fact that there is perception.
This isn't to say nothing is real. All it means is that we can't be certain anything is real. We get up and go to work because we believe we would lose our job if we didn't. That's perfectly reasonable. It makes sense to act as though what appears to us to be real, is real. However, there's also some importance in realizing that all logic and reason are based on unprovable assumptions. It can help one remember that there's no reason to remain attached to our preconceptions when doing so causes us to suffer.
"That Guy" wrote in message news:[email]...
A Porpoise once told me the exact same thing.
"Somebody" wrote in message news:[email]...
Was that his way of thanking you for all the fish?
"That Guy" wrote in message news:[email]...
He told me to avoid the fish, and order the veal... I said "meat is murder". He nodded and then swam back into the sky.
"Somebody" wrote in message news:[email]...
I've read that over and over again and it gets funnier every time. Is that an old classic or a new one that you just made up?
"Wog George" wrote in message news:NtB_h.33549$[email]...
I think I made it up. Though I've thought that before, only to find out I either I forgot or someone else already did it. Sort of like the Simpson's already did it.
In HS, I had the idea: what if I was the only one really conscious/alive. Only to find out their is a whole body of work already extant about solipsism... At least, we have computers and the Internet.
"Somebody" wrote
I once had this idea for a book "The Solipsist's Guide to the Universe"; but then I thought, who'd read it?
"Opinicus" wrote in message news:[email]...
The entire Universe! You should write it!
"Somebody" wrote in news:[email]:
The fact itself that "only one thing can be known for certain" :-)
Some radical skeptics will assert that nothing can be known for certain, but of course they can't know that, right?
But the "one thing" version gets rids of the paradox.
George
"George Weinberg" wrote in message news:[email]...
Assuming just for a moment that you actually posted that message, I think I agree... or not.
"George Weinberg" wrote in message news:[email]...
I would say that even that can't be known for certain. I know, it seems like a paradox, but really it isn't.
I'd argue that if there was no perception, then there would be nothing. If there is nothing, then why is there something? I see my hands typing these words. Everything I think and see and experience, even my own existence, could be an illusion, but any illusion requires perception. It might be that illusion doesn't exist, but whatever it is that appears to be illusion is being perceived.
One might argue that in order for perception to exist, there must be both the perceiver and that which is being perceived. I would counter that this seems reasonable, but can't be proven without relying on unprovable beliefs or presumptions from which to build a logical progression.
Well, as you seem to have pointed out, it does and yet it doesn't. Personally, I see no evidence that can prove that only one thing can be known for certain. It certainly seems that way to me, but I'm basing my own argument on the existence of certain possibilities, which haven't been proven to exist.
"That Guy" wrote in message news:[email]...
I feel like a dog trying to understand how a combustion engine works.
"Somebody" wrote in message news:[email]...
It's just a theory anyway, there's nothing to be gained by understanding it. Thank you for trying!
"That Guy" wrote in message news:[email]...
arf!
That Guy wrote..., On 04/23/2007 12:04:
On the subject of Koreans, this involves a newspaper article about sex slavery in the San Francisco Chronicle a few months ago. The week-long series exposed sex slavery in the hundreds of "massage parlors" around the city. Many of the women were S. Korean, as were the traffickers and pimps, so the local Korean community felt that the article was embarrassing and accused the journalist of racism for singling out Korean sex slavery, and that it implied all Korean women were prostitutes and thus the entire race was shamed. Self-proclaimed "leaders" of the local Korean-American community collectively signed a letter to that effect, and the public's response was that they were a bunch of assholes for not expressing any concern for the plight of the enslaved Korean prostitutes. All they cared about was that their ethnic community would be embarrassed if people learned some Korean women were sex slaves.
"nappy-headed ho" wrote in message news:rsqXh.19164$[email]...
How sad for them.
They were thinking that only moronic broadcast networks do things like that and that they're not a moronic broadcast network.
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 22:41:43 -0700, Don Del Grande wrote:
I just saw it as a "Dawn of the Dead" spoof. A lot of things were copied from the movie, like the shooting them in the head and modifying the bus. Surprised they didn't show the people on the roof playing chess though. :)
I didn't even think about the VT shooting when watching the episode.
"Don Del Grande" wrote in message news:[email]...
They could kill kenny. It will give the kids an excuse to say "oh my God they killed Kenny, you bastards!" I missed that.
"Don Del Grande" wrote in message news:[email]...
Bad taste=yes. Funny=yes. I'm glad they decided to air it.
Pink Freud wrote:
I'm not saying "destroy the episode" - just perhaps they might have held off for a week or two, especially when you consider that a sizable number of viewers are probably college students. Definitely one of the better episodes this season.
-- Don
On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 18:46:47 -0700, Don Del Grande wrote:
Go crawl into a dark room with a portable dvd player and a stack of barney the dinosour dvds if you can't handle anything resembling reality.
AZ Nomad wrote:
The only reality I'm worried about is the possibility of Comedy Central announcing that "at the 'request' (read: pulling out after a number of people threatened to boycott their products) of our sponsors, we are cancelling South Park because of their insensitivity to the Virginia Tech victims, and never mind that this episode was scheduled to air before the shootings and, if you want to get picky, scheduling the show is our doing."
To be honest, I probably wouldn't have thought twice about it, if it wasn't for the "everybody fire Don Imus" thing.
-- Don
"AZ Nomad" wrote in message news:[email]...
Though I disagree with Don's idea, I can understand the sentiment behind it. What I can't understand is why you get so pissy and emotional over his idea. It's just an idea, it's no threat to you, but your response suggests otherwise.
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 22:41:43 -0700, Don Del Grande wrote:
You prefer sticking your fingers in your ears and going "LA LA LA LA!" Get over yourself. People die everywhere all the time. There are more bodies dragged to the bagdad morgue every fifteen minutes than died in Virginia.
"AZ Nomad" wrote in message news:[email]...
They have a morgue? I thought sandiggers just buried people in mass graves. At least, that's what they keep finding over there.
"AZ Nomad" wrote in message news:[email]...
There you go again, getting pissy and emotional. At least this time you included an almost-funny visual depiction.
See, what gets me is that you have excellent points:
"People die everywhere all the time. There are more bodies dragged to the bagdad morgue every fifteen minutes than died in Virginia."
Those are well-reasoned points, but you sabotage your own post by including bratty remarks like a 12-year-old. Just relax, man. It doesn't matter what other people think. All your life, you have encountered and will encounter opinions which you think are stupid. If you enjoy getting all worked up by them then by all means, feel free--but if you're like me, when you say stuff like that it means you aren't really having a good time.