South Park 509/Looney Tunes Refs

S05E09 Osama Bin Laden Has Farty PantsliveNov 7, 2001, 10:54 PM ET54 minutes after the credits37 posts by 14 postersalt.tv.southpark
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Legion1979alt.tv.southpark

It didnt take a rocket scientist to be able to see that the last third of tonight's episode was chock full of referances to classic animated cartoons of the 1940. However, those with a working knowledge of animated shorts were able to recognize alot of the gags in Cartman's battle with Osama Bin Laden.

Many of the jokes are standard cartoon gags which are used quite a bit in Warner Bros. cartoons. The various signs ("screw-ball", ect) Cartman holds up at one point can be found often in these cartoons, although they never got as vulgar as they did tonight. "What's up doc?" and the various Osama/Elmer Fudd take-offs are obviously from the Bugs Bunny shorts, and both Bugs and Daffy regularly delighted in crossdressing for and kissing their opponents. Cartman's smart-ass "look" to the camera while Bin Laden dined with the camel is something Bugs would do quite often under the direction of Chuck Jones. The "Tiny, Isn't It" sign was a standard in director Bob Clampett's cartoons (see 1943's "Falling Hare" for a similar sign.) The mallet gag at the end of episode was something that was more common in recent cartoons such as "Animaniacs". (1993-98)

There are a few referances that were taken from specific cartoons, however. In a series of MGM cartoons directed by Tex Avery, a wolf would lose control over a sexy red-headed bomb-shell and go off in a series of wild poses called "takes". The takes Bin Laden uses when he sees a dolled-up Cartman are direct parodies of this.

One gag was taken from a Bob Clampett masterpiece released in 1944. This cartoon, titled "Russian Rhapsody", delt with none other than Adolf Hitler. In this cartoon, the plane he is piloting is attacked by an army of small Russian gremlins, who proceed to demolish the plane, plummeting Hitler to his grave. His last line in the cartoon is, "Nutzies in de cwaziest people", delivered in the voice of 1930/40s star Lew Lehr. Considering this cartoon is not seen often today, the writers of tonights episode obviously did their homework for Osama's last line here.

"Russian Rhapsody" is one of several 1940s cartoons dealing with WW2 themes, pitting animated characters against the likes of Hirohito, Stalin and Hilter. "In Herr Meets Hare" (1945) a Nazi soldier battles Bugs Bunny. At one point Bugs arrives in drag as Brunhilde, riding a horse. Cartman's entrance in drag astride a camel could be a take-ff of this.

Considering these WW2 cartoons are very rarely shown today, it seems odd that an 9 year old like Cartman would be aware of them. The referances to them in "Osama Bin Laden Has Farty Pants", on the other hand, show an amazing amount of respect for the golden age of animation.

On 08 Nov 2001 03:54:46 GMT, [email] (Legion1979) wrote:

That line has been used in several old Warner Brothers cartoons... modified for whatever the theme of the cartoon was. "Musicians is de craziest...", "Squirrels is de...", etc.

See above. Any good fan of the old cartoons has seen that gag a few times.

Bugs did the identical gimmick in the "Ride of the Valkyrie" cartoon. It's much more likely Matt and Trey saw that one. You really have to look around to find the hardcore WWII cartoons since they never show them on TV.

Um... it's also unlikely that Cartman would be able to pull a giant mallet from behind his back or that a talking towel would show up and offer them a joint. It's a cartoon. Let it go.

----- "You are American?" "No - I'm Canadian. That's like an American without the gun." - KitH

"Have you ever noticed that most of the people who are against abortion are people that you wouldn't want to fuck in the first place?" - George Carlin

Bunny the Lifeguard wrote:

But if he can pull out a monorail... ;)

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On Thu, 08 Nov 2001 12:31:39 GMT, "Bill K." wrote:

And Space Mountain...

----- "You are American?" "No - I'm Canadian. That's like an American without the gun." - KitH

"Have you ever noticed that most of the people who are against abortion are people that you wouldn't want to fuck in the first place?" - George Carlin

"Bunny the Lifeguard" wrote in message news:3bea9e69.2254389@news...

odd that

them in

Indeed, all of Disneyland, and make it fit into a prison cell. :D

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Dude, have you even seen Russian Rhapsody?

Not really, the two cartoons I've talked about are not only available in videotape, but got some airplay in a spacial WW2 special shown on Cartoon Network this summer

Let what go? I enjoyed it

On 08 Nov 2001 15:43:37 GMT, [email] (Legion1979) wrote:

I remember watching the videos over ten years ago... it's more likely a couple of relatively hardcore cartoon fans like Matt and Trey (remember the "I wanna sing-a" bit from the very first episode?) saw the WWII cartoons years ago. I doubt they were recently inspired by them.

That's fine, but it sounded like you were questioning the reality of the cartoon world. Cartman doesn't know anything because Cartman is a cartoon.

----- "You are American?" "No - I'm Canadian. That's like an American without the gun." - KitH

"Have you ever noticed that most of the people who are against abortion are people that you wouldn't want to fuck in the first place?" - George Carlin

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You sure about that? I heard that they didn't give a damn about cartoons.

- Juan F. Lara http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~jfl/intro.html

On 8 Nov 2001 14:41:38 -0600, [email] (Juan F. Lara) wrote:

How else would they know about something like the "I wanna sing-a" bit... and they'd have to at least be some sort of fans to know half the Bugs Bunny/Elmer Fudd/Warner Brother/et al gags.

Where did you hear they don't give a damn about cartoons? Are you sure it wasn't just them being goofy in an interview?

----- "You are American?" "No - I'm Canadian. That's like an American without the gun." - KitH

"Have you ever noticed that most of the people who are against abortion are people that you wouldn't want to fuck in the first place?" - George Carlin

I remember that song (inthe cartoon genre) not as a Judy "died onna crapper"** Garland song but asthe song the hip young owl wants to sing,much to the horror of his old-world "Cherman" father owl.

**Note: ref is to the Liza Minelli/Natl. Lampoon brouhaha over Judy's embarrassing end and the subsequent birth of NL's "Grow Up!" issue.

Why goofy and not mickey or darnold?

On Fri, 09 Nov 2001 03:23:44 GMT, "D.G. Porter" wrote:

Right - that's the exact audio clip they used in that episode of South Park. If M & T weren't cartoon fans I doubt they'd be familiar with such an obscure cartoon reference.

Darnold? Is that Donald's black duck half-brother from the Disney Ghetto? ;)

----- "You are American?" "No - I'm Canadian. That's like an American without the gun." - KitH

"Have you ever noticed that most of the people who are against abortion are people that you wouldn't want to fuck in the first place?" - George Carlin

No, Bunny, (and if you're a chick, and if I wasn't alreay married to the hippest chick on earth...) back in the Fifties MAD magazine (real early daze) ran some Disney parodies featuring "Mickey Rodent" and "Darnold Duck." The funniest part began when they (Mickey and Darnold) realized that they'd gone from three fingers (in the gloves) to five fingers, and so they must have left the Disney World and entered Willie Elder's world... and Mickey leads Darnold into a duck pen, leaves him, and with all of Darnold's noise the keepers (all "human" in Elder's world) decide that such a weird duck can either be kept as a mutant or dissected.... and Darnold left is among "regular" (realistic) ducks, and covering his privates in scrub-brush...

Wait, the earliest appeance of "Darnold Duck" is on "Gopo Gossum," where Gopo misunderstands Mickey and thinks his advice on "learning parlor tricks and joining parties" is to "learn politics and to join parties." That's the kiss of death. And Darnold wears a chef's hat.

On Fri, 09 Nov 2001 11:33:27 GMT, "D.G. Porter" wrote:

I'm not a chick, sorry. ;)

(name comes from MTV's Jackass - an "alter ego" of cast member Chris Pontius)

Before my time... although I did recently purchase the MAD magazine archives on CD-Rom... I'll have to check that out.

----- "You are American?" "No - I'm Canadian. That's like an American without the gun." - KitH

"Have you ever noticed that most of the people who are against abortion are people that you wouldn't want to fuck in the first place?" - George Carlin

On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 22:33:07 GMT, [email] (hope munro smith) wrote:

The graphic is pretty much just Cartman with rosie cheeks and big bright eyes... the audio is from the old Warner Brothers cartoon. ----- "You are American?" "No - I'm Canadian. That's like an American without the gun." - KitH

"Have you ever noticed that most of the people who are against abortion are people that you wouldn't want to fuck in the first place?" - George Carlin

Also on AMC, IIRC. Those guys did a lot of WWII cartoons with the themes of "Loose lips sink ships" etc.

All of the episodes you list are frequently aired these days on Cartoon Network, and have been aired numerous times before, especially a few months back for an entire month.

A quick search on the Internet, a phone call or two for a tape from a studio (you'd be surprised how many Universal, CBS, MGM, etc. employees are SP fans) and Trey & Matt have their references ready. All that's needed then is to make similar ones for SP.

In article , [email] wrote...

I think you're confusing Cartoon Network with Boomerang. HTH!

On 13 Nov 2001 04:14:41 GMT, [email] (Ben Raines) wrote:

About 18 hours a day. ;)

Courage the Cowardly Dog rocks.

----- "You are American?" "No - I'm Canadian. That's like an American without the gun." - KitH

"Have you ever noticed that most of the people who are against abortion are people that you wouldn't want to fuck in the first place?" - George Carlin

In article , [email] (Bunny the Lifeguard) writes:

The other 5 1/2 hours are dedicated to reruns of the seemingly-endless DBZ, with a half-hour for ads for Scooby-Doo.

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Legion1979 wrote:

I couldn't figure this one out. Given the poor resolution of the video format and the player that I watched it on, I couldn't exactly visualize the grooves on the said screw, and kept thinking "nail-ball?", "stake-ball?"

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On Thu, 08 Nov 2001 13:01:01 GMT, "Bill K." wrote:

That's a great bit from a Bugs Bunny cartoon where Elmer Fudd is a scientist and captures Bugs for a lab experiment. At one point, Elmer freaks out and Bugs holds up a series of pictures, watching Elmer act like a retard. (it's popped up in a couple of other cartoons, too, I'm sure)

Cartman's signs went by a little quickly, but I immediately recognized "Screwball" and "Shithead". I'll have to watch again this weekend to see the others.

----- "You are American?" "No - I'm Canadian. That's like an American without the gun." - KitH

"Have you ever noticed that most of the people who are against abortion are people that you wouldn't want to fuck in the first place?" - George Carlin

On 08 Nov 2001 15:46:01 GMT, [email] (Legion1979) wrote:

I'm laughing right now just thinking about those... especially the Streisand.

----- "You are American?" "No - I'm Canadian. That's like an American without the gun." - KitH

"Have you ever noticed that most of the people who are against abortion are people that you wouldn't want to fuck in the first place?" - George Carlin

"Bunny the Lifeguard" wrote in message news:3bea9e7d.2275169@news...

"stake-ball?"

For some reason, I thought the 2nd was "Shit for brains", rather then "shit head". wierd.

On Thu, 08 Nov 2001 13:01:01 GMT, "Bill K." wrote:

I guess you had to be familiar with the genre on that one. It was the only one that was lifted directly from the old cartoons. The (jacks) (ass) one I've seen several times, but just with a donkey kicking, I guess the kicking indicated that it was a male (Jack instead of Jenny) and an ass instead of a horse/mule. The other signs were for shithead, cocksucker, and Barbara Streisand, I think. Did I miss any?

Jeremiah

On 13 Nov 2001 04:15:29 GMT, [email] (Ben Raines) wrote:

That's a male chicken, commonly known as a cock, cock-sucker, not chicken-sucker. You are a sick, sick man.

Know the difference between kinky and perverted?

| | | | | | | Spoiler Space | | | | | | | Spoiler Space | | | | | | | Spoiler Space | | | | | | | Spoiler Space | | | | | | | Kinky uses a feather, perverted uses the whole damn chicken.

Jeremiah amusing myself

Trey and Matt are a little young to have been littlekids inthe mid-1950s, but anyone who was there then remembers how all kinds of crazy cartoons showed up on Saturday morning kids shows. Stuff from WW2, the '30s, real obscure shit that was probably on its last legs of celluloid. Operettas with mice and dictator cats, appearances by real-life people from Hitler to Buster Keaton, etc., material from Tex Avery to the Fleischer Bros. Anyone who had a TV from 1956-59 would be fully aware of those old cartoons.

On Fri, 09 Nov 2001 02:09:37 GMT, "D.G. Porter" wrote:

Matt and Trey are about my age: 29. I've been watching cartoons from the 30's, 40's, 50's etc since I was a kid. Nowadays there's a lot more new stuff on, but 20 years ago you didn't have to look too hard to find old cartoons. It's a lot cheaper to replay old stuff than produce new stuff.

You can sometimes find compilation videos of these in comic book/old toy stores.

----- "You are American?" "No - I'm Canadian. That's like an American without the gun." - KitH

"Have you ever noticed that most of the people who are against abortion are people that you wouldn't want to fuck in the first place?" - George Carlin

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Unfortunately, that's when the ep went to hell. The first bit might have been acceptable, but it got to be a like a SNL sketch. Sheesh!

I was reminded of Bugs Bunny cartoons (sorry, can't cite them) in which he tricked his opponants while in drag, although the real object of Osama Yo Mama's affections was different. Is this where Osama's strangle spastic flailing movement came?

While I can't vouch for that source, I've heard it before in several cartoons, mostly in reference to Sylvester ("Cat are the cwaaaziest people!").