I can see how this "Soul of Kenny in Cartman" is going to me like the "Spock's consciousness in McCoy" theme in ST3. Anyone else see this coming?
Another thing, where did this "Ladder to Heaven" idea come from? I vaguely remember hearing about this some years ago, but the source escapes me (And i'm not thinking of the Stairway to heaven song either)
Yep, noticed the ST3 reference in there. :)
wherever that idea came from, its still fucking stupid
"Willie D" wrote in message news:[email]...
In article , "Buddy Lee" wrote:
How so?
On Sat, 09 Nov 2002 19:14:09 -0500, Howard S Shubs wrote:
Mainly because if heaven does exist, you'd have to die to be able to see it.
Although anyone falling off the ladder would certainly have the chance...
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"Pastor of Muppets" wrote in message news:[email]...
But then again, this is the SP kids we are talking about. Sometimes they can be very smart, and other times not have a friggen clue....
I mean, think about it. Look at the stuff surroundings Kenny in this ep. They don't seem to realize he's dead, then think that he HAD to have had it on him when he died, and thus must have it with him in Heaven. They also took a long time to catch on about his ashes in the urn, and seemed to expect him to be a genie or something when they first opened it (notice how they seemed to duck as they opened the lid).
So expecting to get to heaven by ladder certainly isn't stupid by the standards of anything else they've done, in this episode or outside of it.
On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 06:41:20 GMT, "spauldingae" wrote:
Yes, but the person I responded to seemed to insinuate that people building a REAL ladder might not be such a stupid idea.
Of course, I've had several beers and it's quite late, so I may have misunderstood his post...
*BELCH*
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In article , [email] (Pastor of Muppets) wrote:
Oh, I thought you meant that the elevator to space idea was stupid.
"Howard S Shubs" wrote in message news:[email]...
That would actually be a good idea for building a space station without having to use multiple shuttle or rocket launching. However, it isn't yet feasible, Stress on the structure being a big factor.
It would need a series of sky hooks to make this work.
In article , Liam Devlin wrote:
Only during construction.
In article , "spauldingae" wrote:
Materials Science may be almost there, yeah. Once we have the ability, I don't even WANT to think about the environmental impact statement. <grimace> OTOH, it'd mean fewer rockets, with their exhaust. And justifying it economically will probably be tougher than it should be.
Yeah, but then every member of that oh-so-peaceful religon of Islam would try to crash into it.
I think he was referring to mr garrisons comment of the tower that was on the news in that episode, not takinga pop at southpark.
"Buddy Lee" wrote in message news:sk3z9.8907$[email]...
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard, something on a South Park episode being called 'stupid' as if that's a BAD thing! That's the essence of the show, stupidity enshrined...
Gregg C.
ffs, did you watch the spisode? He was joking
Damn Ryan, gotta give you credit for being so mother fucking fast
"Ryan Pincher" wrote in message news:C2Yz9.1004$[email]...
I guess my sarcasm detector wasn't tuned properly, I thought he meant it.
"Buddy Lee" wrote in message news:FUYz9.13897$[email]...
Is it not the religious thing the tower of babylon where they built it to get closer to god?
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Also Jacob's ladder.
"Ryan Pincher" wrote in message news:N9az9.206$[email]...
The old testament Tower of Babel story.
I was thinking the same thing the first time I heard the "Ladder to Heaven".
Well, there has been some recent talk about (obviously) limited space travel using a huge elevator-type device...I think I heard about it on TechTV some time in the past several weeks.
"Bao H. Lammy" wrote in message news:[email]...
It's not that recent an idea. Arthur C Clarke used the idea in 1979 for his book "The Fountains of Paradise." It's really been only recently that the idea has entered the realm of remote feasibility.
-Jay
he also wrote about it in his book 3001: The final odyssey. If any of you want to read it, i'd suggest ripping out the last 20 pages. The rest of it is a great read though.
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In article , "Bao H. Lammy" wrote:
And it's not even a slightly recent idea. Goes back decades.
[email] (Willie D) wrote in message news:...
somewhat similar to the 'Escalator to nowhere' "Simpsons did it!!! Simpsons did it!!!"
from the Monorail episode
your opinions dont mean shit, the episode is hilarious. when cartman started sing "in the ghetto" I was on the floor
Monorail! Monrail! Monorail!
I am not sure, but I was reminded of something I read in Scientific America many years ago about something I think they called just that. I forgot the significance of it, but it was about the materials needed to build an elevator or structure that could reach the moon (Yeah, it doens't make sense).
Well, reaching the moon doesn't make sense, but reaching outer space does. Here's the simplest way to think of it:
Imagine a space station in a geosynchronous orbit. It's ~22000 miles above the equator, and appears to stay over the same spot on the Earth all the time. Now, suppose you were to build a tower that sticks out of the bottom of the station, toward Earth, and balance that by putting a large mass on the other side of the station, away from Earth. As long as you keep the center of mass of the whole system at the right distance, it will stay in the geosynchronous orbit.
OK, so you've got that in mind? A space station, 22000 miles up, with a tower sticking out below, and a countermass above ("below" and "above" mean toward and away from Earth). Suppose you make that tower *really* long...say, 22000 miles. As long as you make sure you've got enough mass on the other side of the station, the thing stays in orbit. The end of the tower would be conveniently near the surface of the Earth! Run an elevator up the tower, and you've got an elevator to space.
It would probably be a very good idea to actually tie the tower to Earth, and put more mass in the countermass.
Note that this thing would not be resting on the Earth. It would be dangling from the space station. The load on it would be a stretching load, not a compression load. The shape would be very wide at the station, tapering to very narrow the closer it is to Earth.
The material strength needed is stronger than anything we know how to produce in quantity, so this is something that is decades or more down the road, even if someone with a lot of money decides to try it.
It sure would be damned useful, though. It would make getting into orbit ridiculously cheap.
--Tim Smith
In article , Tim Smith wrote:
I suspect it'd be more complex than that. Start a tower from the planet while you start one as you describe from the station. Clarke's "3001" describes one implmentation.
Anyway, the two bits could meet at some point. You end up having some compression load at the bottom, and it changes as it goes up, as does the diameter of the thing, which has to vary depending on the height, strength of gravity at that height, and how much stress there is. At the earth level, it's a weight. Farther up, it's a centripetal thing (Earth spinning this thing around like a kid with a rope), and at the space station it's something else.