Spirit of Xmas 2000

Just got done watching tonights new xmas episode of South Park....WOW!! That has got to be one of the most creative things they've done in a long time, and it brings the entire South Park series full circle. I had reservations about the whole Hankey family thing, but they pulled it off very well and we got to see sides of both Mr. Hankey and Butters that we've never seen before. The whole concept of Cartman's orginal voice being so deep because it's actually Stan's voice is so far out that it works perfectly, as does the origin of Kenny's death on film and why the original SOX looked so crappy. My only gripe is that the Mayor's voice still needs some more work. All in all though, a terrific Xmas episode and a perfect way to end the year.

References

Mr Hankey's song to his son is obviously a parody of the "Lion King." However, it seems the tune of the song is based on the song "We Are One" from the made-for-video sequel, "Lion King 2: Simba's Pride".

The song Stan and Kyle sing is almost word for word based on a song in the old Rankin Bass Xmas special "The Night Before Christmas". This explains why Kyle's face contorts briefly to look like a Rankin Bass animated character, mouse-like teeth and all.

REVELATION We see Stan's hair for the very first time, at least some of it. It pokes out of his hat when Kyle wakes him up. If you havent seen it, I wont tell you what color it is.

In article , [email] (Legion1979) wrote:

Exactly my take on this. This ep was wonderful! Now for them to do the Santa vs Frosty one!

That'd be a bit harder. They'd have to do something pretty creative to explain the whole "Kenny-Cartman" thing. :)

I do wonder how many people, who have never seen spirit of xmas, were a bit confused. They, unfortantly, cut out some stuff...like the Brian Boitano part. Although, I love that they actually showed the cut out of him.

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Was there brian boitano stuff cut from last night's ep?

I guess I missed that thread....

jay "yoyododonono" wrote in message news:[email]...

explain

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"yoyododonono" wrote in message news:[email]...

bit

part.

I was kind of hoping they'd show us the whole Spirit of Xmas short, maybe at the end of the show. Anyone know if it's ever been shown on tv?

Dunno...personally, I would have really liked it if they just had redone it completely (like they did partially for last night's episode) and played that, be it in pieces to fit in w/ the plot of the episode last night, or all at once. The "original" looks like crap because the only available versions are dubs of dubs of dubs converted into RealPlayer format, etc.

"Bao H. Lammy (Pipeline)" wrote in message news:[email]...

Wasn't it an easter egg in a playstation game? Wonder if there are any rips of that, they should be pretty good, quality-wise.

I hadn't heard of that. Anyone else?

On Fri, 22 Dec 2000 15:09:56 -0600, "Bao H. Lammy \(Pipeline\)" wrote:

The high quality mpeg version is currently posted in the binaries group. alt.binaries.southpark

"The Mole" wrote in message news:[email]...

Not so high from what I'm seeing...the soundtrack is off.

On Fri, 22 Dec 2000 19:33:12 -0500, "LooseChanj" wrote:

Really? I didn't bother checking the whole thing. It looked liked the same version I already had so I deleted it after watching only a couple seconds. I hope you don't expect the lip-sync to be perfect though. This is cheap cardboard cut-out animation and not done on computer like the series is.

In article , [email] (The Mole) wrote:

In other words, they explained this in the episode. Didn't it take them something like 3 months though?

On Fri, 22 Dec 2000 23:14:10 -0500, Howard S Shubs wrote:

I don't know how long it took but they were given $2000.00 to do it, made it for $750.00 and pocketed the rest. For the full story go to: www.killfile.org/soxmas/info.html

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In article , [email] (The Mole) wrote:

Sounds reasonable. Consider the rest as salary.

"The Mole" wrote in message news:[email]...

I was talking about hearing Stan's voice when the focus is on Cartman AND Cartman's mouth is moving, etc. It's REALLY friggin' annoying when they're talking fast too. Although, visually it's alot better. Just that the audio/visual are out of sync.

Is this the 17463K MPEG version of the second Spirit of Christmas? I already have that one if it is...anyway, I was thinking of the even earlier Spirit of Christmas, the one that featured Jesus, Frosty, and a fake Santa who was really Frosty in disguise. The only version I have of that is a 3MB or so RealPlayer file that really sucks in quality. (Yes, I know that it was a crude production to begin with, but what I mean is that the picture is as big as a large postage stamp and is in RealPlayer format to top it off.)

In article , "LooseChanj" writes:

I think someone managed to sneak it into some copies of a Tiger Woods golf game. I don't remember which one, though.

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Mark wrote:

<< I think someone managed to sneak it into some copies of a Tiger Woods golf game. I don't remember which one, though. >>

Tiger Woods 99 PGA Tour by EA for PSX. You had to stick the game into a PC drive to see SoXmas, couldn't see it on the PSX. And it was recalled. Those Bastards!!

Although, I'm sure there are many copies floating around on ebay.

missy

In article , "LooseChanj" writes:

I don't think it could be shown on TV.

On 21 Dec 2000 08:01:53 GMT, [email] (yoyododonono) wrote:

Piece of cake. Just off the top of my head, here are a few ways they could do it.

1.	Cartman does something to piss off the other three.  They say
	screw it, we'll make the short without him, with one of them
	imitating him.  [In other words, a repeat of SOX2K up to this
	point.]  Then they decide they will REALLY show him by having
	his character die in the movie.  But they've already decided
	that Kenny should die, and Kenny's not too happy about that.
	Kenny mumbles something to the effect of "why don't you kill
	Cartman's character instead of mine?"  For once, the viewer
	understands Kenny but the characters in the show don't.
	Exasperated, Kenny mumbles "screw you guys, I'm going
	home."  He leaves, and a lightbulb goes on in Kyle and
	Stan's heads.  At the screening, Kenny and Cartman are
	equally pissed off for various reasons, ranging from the fact
	that both are identified with the dead character (Kenny by
	name, Cartman by appearance) to the fact that Kenny was
	portrayed as fat, Cartman as poor, etc..

2.	Cartman gets run over by a bus.  Kenny mumbles "Oh my God,
	they killed Cartman,"  expecting Kyle or Stan to chime in with
	"you bastards!"  Instead, one of them says "that's OK, we'll
	just cast his character as Kenny."  Kenny becomes indignant
	at the fact that everyone else had assumed his character
	was supposed to die.

3.	As in SOX2K, they draft a story board and send it to foreign
	animators.  The animators fudge up the script in every
	conceivable way.  The fact that two characters' names got
	mixed up gets buried somewhere near the middle, so it's not
	too obvious a set up.

4.	They run the short as-is, with all characters completely
	oblivious to the fact that Kenny and Cartman's characters look
	like the other's.  Mrs. McCormick, Ms. Cartman or both
	compliment Kyle and Stan on what a good job they did
	portraying their sons.

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     Stan:  Dude!  We gotta do ANOTHER damn cartoon to save Christmas again!
     Kyle:  Ah, screw it.  Let's just let Timmy do all the work.

[ Much later ]

        Kyle:  Aw, Timmy!  Your drawing sucks!  That ain't what we really look
               like.
     Cartman:  Hey!  You made MY character do all the stuff that Kenny was
               supposed to be doing!
       Timmy:  TIMMY!!

- Juan F. Lara http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~jfl/intro.html

Kyle: Then don't belittle my people, you fucking fatass! Cartman: Goddamit! Don't call me fat you butt fucking son of a bitch!

"Juan F. Lara" wrote in message news:92h2lj$[email]...

again!

That's not a bad idea, but I don't see it happening. Unlike Sting, Matt & Trey don't seem to plagiarize themselves. Re-hash just seems to be against their religion. Which isn't to say we might not see it alluded to.

In article , "LooseChanj" wrote:

What?? So the Spirit of Christmas never showed up in BLU? Maybe you didn't notice.

"Howard S Shubs" wrote in message news:[email]...

didn't

I mean the concept of "oh let's make a Xmas special" and it turns out to be the original short. It's been done, and I don't think it'll happen again.

In article , "LooseChanj" wrote:

oic. You're probably right.

Legion1979 wrote:

Actually, most of the episode was a take off on "Twas the Night Before Christmas", with the Hankey family filling in for the mice, and the projector instead of the clock. I was snickering anyway, and then they did that song... very funny.

<< Actually, most of the episode was a take off on "Twas the Night Before Christmas", with the Hankey family filling in for the mice, and the projector instead of the clock. I was snickering anyway, and then they did that song... very funny. >>

Agreed. The episode was meant to be a spoof of the Rankin/Bass special "The Night Before Christmas", making it the second time in a row that Trey and Matt spoof Rankin/Bass when it comes to Xmas episodes (Last year's had a Santa Claus is Coming to Town crack) and new eps (The Year Without a Santa Claus crack at the beginning of last week). This goes to show you that Trey and Matt can come up with some clever film and TV references that a few people won't get.

BTW, who else thought that the last act would have Cornwallace, the nugget with the glasses, admitting to breaking the projector and then helping in the fixing of it (right on the fixing, wrong on Cornwallace breaking it)?

Joe Klemm

On 21 Dec 2000 03:55:35 GMT, [email] (Legion1979) wrote:

That face was the second time I literally fell out of my chair laughing during last night's episode (the first was Snoopy beating a naked Charlie Brown with a plank)...

I liked when Butters was talking to the barbie doll. - "The Who Index" http://www.geocities.com/dr_jason_smith/

"Jason" wrote in message news:[email]...

Barbie: Hey Butters, would you like to touch my breasts?

Butters cutout: No........I'll get in trouble again.

or something like that.

Barbie cutout: Oh, uh, Hey there good lookin', what's your name? Butters: Uh, Butters, mam. Barbie cutout: Well butters, would you like to slap my titties around? Buters: Um.. well ... no thanks mam... I'll get in trouble AGAIN.

The best part was the "Again", then Butters twiddling his thumbs and looking around pensively to see if anyone caught him even thinking of doing it again!!

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"RMH" wrote in message news:85116.165407$[email]...

looking

Was it Butters or Clyde who used the M word on Mr. Macky in last week's ep? If it was butters, it that and the statement above would make a lot of sense. Maybe he got too close to Ms. Choksondik and couldn't resist the temptation?

Yuppers, it was Butters allrighty! He M-worded Mr. Macky in last week's ep, however they didn't show who M-worded Mrs. Choksondik :( Hopefully that's a key for an upcoming sequal on Butters' perverse past :)

"spauldingae" wrote in message news:hX916.186650$[email]...

ep?

In article , "RMH" writes:

Yes, that bit certainly had me caconating!

Butters rules it

Let me just say, from the pattern set by the series early on, I knew what colour the kids hair was gonna be =D

"otherwise known as HippiChk79" wrote in message news:[email]...

What pattern might that be? And why am I thinking pubes? Get your mind outta the gutter, there ain't room here for the two of us.

I was going by the dad's hair. Quite a few father sons I saw seemed to have the same hair colour.

Actually in the Spooky Fish episode the kids have goatees that should match their respective hair colors as well...

On 22 Dec 2000 05:20:19 GMT, [email] (Arthur Bang) wrote:

Nah, the goatees of all evil people from the parallel dimension are black... that's a scientific fact. ;)

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heh but Kyle's and Cartman's were brown =P

And that's what sold me on the theory =)

Well, we've all seen Cartman's brown hair and those of us who saw the movie know that Kenny has blondish-brown hair. Thanks to last nights episode is obvious now that Stan's hair is black. We still dont know what color Kyle's hair is. Being Jewish, I think it's safe to say that his dark is dark also.

That was an excellent tribute to the fans! I dodn't know MAtt&Trey *sniff* cared so much!

It really was a good gift...but it would've been better if they showed the original shorts!