The Russians aren't too excited with the US cartoon South Park airing in their country.
Prosecutors in Russia want the cartoon banned! They're even calling the series "extremist" and have already received various viewer complaints.
Now? All of a sudden???
South Park has been around forevs!!
Valentina Titova, a rep for the prosecutors, says they decided to file a motion after an episode aired on the Moscow television station 2×2 back in January. She claims the cartoon "bore signs of extremist activity."
Titova added, "In accordance with the conclusions made by experts from the court investigations committee, a claim has been filed against 2×2 for its broadcast of an episode of South Park."
Even the Russian Union of Christians of Evangelical Faith has asked that prosecutors ban the show. They claim that 20 experts studied the show for its effects on young viewers and decided it was not appropriate.
Konstantin Bendas, the group's leader, said, "South Park is just one of many cartoons that need to be banned from open broadcast…as it insults the feelings of religious believers and incites religious and national hatred."
Adding, "Our complaint is against a lot of cartoons, but this one was from 'South Park' season three, episode 15."
That episode, titled Mr. Hankey's Christmas Classics, features the famous piece of poop singing.
Bendas added, "It's one thing if they are on cable TV and viewers pay money and make a conscious choice. But young children should not be able to turn on the TV after school and watch this. They need to be defended."
Do U think South Park goes too far in its episodes?
No, the "US" is too busy banning half-tits, asses, middle fingers, "vulgarities" and anything else the religious hypocrites find offensive. Geeze, I guess similarities between nominally free, yet culturally backward societies never end, eh?
Are you stupid? You must be. The Russian govt. *controls* their TV and they have banned Southpark. The "US" has no control to ban *anything*. Shit, if I want, I can get cumshots on my TV if I pay for it. Get over your weird "Bush has taken our country from us" mentality. Goddamn, I really hate people like you!
Yeah, idiots generally hate people who can think rationally for themselves without needing Fox News to do it for them.
First of all, let's deal with your lies above:
"The Russian govt. *controls* their TV and they have banned Southpark."
Uhm, no they don't and no, they didn't. If you bothered to read with comprehension, you'd realize that the "Russian govt" does not "control their TV" (at least as far as this case is concerned), because if they did, the show would be canceled unceremoniously without any notice. According to the article, "investigators have filed a motion". That's a long way from "they have banned Southpark (sic)".
"The "US" has no control to ban *anything*."
Really? You must then be unfamiliar with the Federal Communication Commission and its morality policing of airwaves ever since the "Superbowl wardrobe malfunction" incident. Heavy fines are and have been levied against broadcasting corporations for airing programs that have been deemed "indecent" (always involving some sort of nudity or "vulgarity"). Curiously, even though the US Taliban cries against the TV violence in the same breath as crying against TV nudity and vulgarity, no attempts are made to censor any acts of murder, torture, body mutilation or similar, unless of course they happen to contain nude parts. And incidentally, which one of the two events below caused more outrage in the American public: showing half a tit on TV during Superbowl or the illegal and immoral invasion of a sovereign country that presented absolutely no threat whatsoever to the US?
"Shit, if I want, I can get cumshots on my TV if I pay for it."
Although that's the only way for you to get cumshots unless you pay a gay hooker to do it, that is not the lie here. Your deliberate lie involves the conveniently forgotten fact that in fact you cannot get cumshots on your TV if you pay for it, unless it is on cable TV, which the FCC does not morally regulate, even though broadcasters subject themselves to voluntary self-censorship just to be on the safe side of the moral police. On broadcast TV stations, you can't get cumshots. Hell, they regularly scramble middle finger gestures and dog turds in order not to offend the Christian Taliban. So yes, Virginia, the US has control to ban something and it does it on a faily basis.
"Get over your weird "Bush has taken our country from us" mentality."
Here I have to agree. He hasn't really taken anything. Idiots like you have handed the country over to him and his incompetent gang of Neocon rip-off gangsters not once, but twice. *And* it looks like that's not enough, because you people are gearing up to reward the gross incompetence, plunder and treason of the last 8 years by electing yet another (socially, but not fiscally) conservative gang of idiots. Shit, I remember when the slogan-of-the-month used to be "restoring dignity to the White House". After that stupid fuck got appointed by the Supreme Court, allegedly "God was finally in the White House". Well, if that's true, God too is an incompetent bumbling idiot with a negative IQ.
Anyway, hope you enjoy another four years of thievery, incompetence and moral crusade when you fucks elect the guy with one foot in the grave and his Pentecostal speaking-in-tongues mayor of Hicksville.
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Okay, I can take as good as I get... I asked if you were stupid and you called me an idiot. Cool. Insults aside, You actually fought back with rational arguements and not insults. I respect that.
Okay, fair enough. Now just for starters: I've got three words for you- "Alexander Valterovich Litvineko". Just do the research, you'll be frightened. Next, please point me to one major Russian newspaper that has successfully criticized Vladimir Putin in any kind of serious way. *THIS IS CENSORSHIP* When the govt. forbids you from receiving or disseminating information... not that it makes you pay for it, but forbids it completely...
I concede. The "US" has the control to ban *from the public airwaves* what American society has deemed socially unacceptable. The "US" however has NO CONTROL TO BAN ANY POLITICAL, SOCIAL, OR PORNOGRAPHIC STATEMENT made in a consensual adult environment. (and please don't try to pull up child pornography, or bestiality). The US has the ability to ban anything they want. But said ban has limited scope and power. Hence, if I hate Bush, I can watch comedians make fun of him as much as I want, I can buy time on TV and insult him like I'd like to insult you. and he couldn't do a Goddamned thing. And he sure couldn't poison me with polonium.
WHAT??? That's like saying you can't get electricity to your appliances unless you plug them in.
Ouch. Okay, I've given cheap shots, so I'll give you that one. Again, censorship is different from paying for a commodity.
And on those same *broadcast channels, I got a full nude view of Charlotte Ross from behind, including the silhouette of all her bits and pieces.
Wow... we gave up all this and after 8 years he can't even overturn Roe V. Wade?
Ah, you know, I can't even defend this guy... How the hell could he beat you guys 2 terms in a row? Oh, yeah, it was a big GOP conspiracy...
I swear to god that I feel sincerely sorry for you Democrats.... McCain is going to win for the same reason Palin's getting all this flak- Inexperience... and that's what's going to lose Obama the election. I feel more sorry for our country because neither McCain, Obama, Palin, or Biden is up to the task... they all pander... this is the kind of environment that brews a 'Hitler's.... god forbid.
Fair enough. I hope you employed the same technique. Let's see:
Hey, I never said Russia wasn't turning into a proto-fascist state. People are stupid all over the globe, Russia included, and if you give them just enough potatoes so they can feed their stupid offspring, they'll turn a blind eye to all sorts of human rights abuses that are happening under their noses (sounds familiar?). Most of the people are willing to tolerate a lot of shit until it starts happening to them. Some will even tolerate it when it actually happens to them. How else do you think dictatorships last for decades, from communists to fascists?
Actually, it does. There are still dozens of states that outlaw all sorts of sexual activities, from oral to anal, and this is not aimed at homosexuality, mind you, which is a whole different story. Furthermore, just recently an entire election was won on the premise that homosexual marriages would be banned (they weren't) and abortion would soon be outlawed (it wasn't). Some states still have statutes forbidding atheists from holding public office positions. And so on...
It was said during the darkest times of the Iron Curtain that in the free societies one is allowed to say anything; in the totalitarian societies one is not allowed to say anything; and in the most brutal regimes one is allowed to say anything but it makes no difference whatsoever.
As far as Po-210 is concerned, what do you think the CIA does? Not that I condone the KGB assholes who poison people at will. Just, don't be so sure your own country is an angel of mercy and free will.
No, it isn't. There is a huge difference between the broadcast TV (public domain) and the cable TV which is considered a closed and private system. That's why the FCC gets to regulate and police the FM radio and broadcast TV stations for vulgarity and nudity, but of course it stays the hell away from the AM wasteland of the fascist hatemongers whose speeches are a definition of hate propaganda. They know that meddling with Limbaugh and his fascist falanges would get them a legal challenge, while banning tits and "4-letter words" actually buys them political points. It's a win-win.
Well, what's your point? In the most brutal dictatorships, what is forbidden under the penalty of death for the masses is easily available for the ruling elite. Aren't they just "paying for a commodity", albeit with their integrity and conscience?
Maybe so, but that's just another zeitgeist. Right smack in the middle of the Bush cultural revolution, you wouldn't see that. The perverse beauty of censorship is in the fact that it's always open to interpretation, so you have to be on the lookout all the time.
No, but that's because it's never been about Roe v. Wade. This, in addition to gay marriage was simply a bait to get the American redneck fired up and steamed up so he casts a vote. Once the ruling gang was in power, they proceeded to do what they planned to do from the beginning: plunder the masses, fill their pockets and satisfy their actual voter base: the three-headed Hydra made of the oil complex lobby, the military complex lobby and the Israel lobby.
No, not really. No conspiracy. Just the time tested system of "divide and conquer" and a whole lot of nationalism mixed with paranoia against the fringe groups. This technique never fails.
I'm not a Democrat, but OK...
Look, all politicians are full of shit. However, the Republicans are made of shit. They make shit an artform. Either way, Obama is going to lose the election simply because come election day, a lot of Americans are going to go cast their vote, look deeply within their hearts and decide that they reaaaaaaaaaaaally don't want to vote for a nigger.
No, you said that Russian TV doesn't censor. And while you may be technically correct, the fact that Putin censors Russian TV doesn't mitigate the fact that Russian TV isn't censored.
Actually, yes... but not to the degree that you think. Western freedoms reach far more than I believe you think they do.
Granted. But these 'people' are not the "duped" Americans that you believe. They are the people who live in mexico, South America, Africa, and Asia.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Yes, that was a Seinfeld pun, but I'm all for Gay relationships.
If gays want to get together, then I say full steam ahead... just don't call it marriage. Marriage is between a man and a woman to start a family. Why do Gays *need* to call their union 'marriage'? I'll tell you why- Because however their rights movement began, it's lead to invading other peoples notion of marraige.
Really? Are you really pulling out the archaic 1800's laws as a defense in 2008? That's something the Republicans would do....
Only helping my argument... Have you watched MADtv, or SNL? They exalt the infallible ruler Kim Jong Il If only they could do the same to Bush.
You're totally right! Why didn't I see this before??? The CIA used Po-210 (or it's equivalent) to insure that "their" candidate (Nixon) would win the election. Uh-oh..."Watergate'... FF to 1976. I guess Ford was too clumsy. So sorry. Carter (you were a democrat) therefore the CIA made sure that you would lose the election in 1980- that's when the CIA switched to their master plan- put a vapid Actor in charge of the country.... How much more stupid does this have to be before you realize that the govt. is worse at keeping it's own house than you are at keeping yours?>
Dude. Seriously. You and I live in a free society. Therefore the worst that we have to imagine is no free porn on demand.
The Russkies have an entirely different problem. If they want to criticize Putin, the run a huge risk. How can you not see the difference?
You know what- I love pornogrophy. I need it. But *If* I had kids, I'd like to be able to plop then in front of the FREE TV at 7:00am untill 8:00am knowing that they'll view the same stupid (inevitably racist, or sexist, but still innocent) cartoons. I watched as a kid.
Are you seriously trying to bait me into defending dictators?
Here's my ignorance- What the hell is a 'zeitgeist'?
When exactly is this "Bush cultural revolotion" going to start? Because the chimp has been in office for 8 years... and the partial-birth abortions are still free to whoever wants one....
WHAT??????
This is the first time you've actually sounded stupid. Censorship interpretation? That's like on/off interpretation.
Wow.... better call up Gloria Allred.
Really? Everything the Feminazi's and Dems used in 2000, and 2004, was never about RVW????
Oh. My. God. You actually *need* GWB... Cheney, Halliburton, etc... if you didn't have these guys, who would you blame the *BIG CONSPIRACY* on??? Wow... The Dems, control the House... if Obama actually wins the election, you guys won't have the Repugs to blame... Holy shit...
You know what? I actually believe you. Because I'm not a Republican. I feel the Republican party has sold me out... Now let me qualify- I believe in the more abortions the merrier... up until three months. I believe that ALL drugs should be legal for adults.
Does that help?
Yet the Democratic party produced Jimmy Carter and John Kerry?
Wow. I have nothing to say to that- I'm speechless.