Upcoming Episodes plus STUFF for "All's Fair in Oven War" (FABF20)

S16E02 All's Fair in Oven WarliveNov 15, 2004, 12:23 AM ET4 hours after the credits12 posts by 7 posters
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Don Del Grande

11/21 - Sleeping with the Enemy (FABF19) Bart has a new roommate - Nelson, who is taken in by Marge when she feels that her own kids aren't giving her enough consideration for what she does for them; Lisa lets playground taunts get to her

11/28 - PRE-EMPTED for the movie "Ice Age"

STUFF for "All's Fair in Oven War" (FABF20) ------------------------------------------- Written by Matt Selman Directed by Mark Kirkland Blackboard: none Couch: Everyone sits on the couch, which is outdoors - and which is then catapulted Special Guest Voices: James Caan, Thomas Pynchon, Marcia Wallace Also Starring: Pamela Hayden, Tress MacNeille, Karl Weidergott Overseas Animation: Akom TV rating: TV-PG-DLV

REVIEW: B-plus - albeit a "marginal" one (or should I say "Marge-inal"?); this one had potential, and there wasn't a copout ending of the subplot, although it did start to have the makings of a rake scene, but the minute I saw Lisa watching what Marge was doing, the ending was obvious (well, except for that Godfather Part II bit).

REFERENCES "Blacula" (in the movie they're watching on TV) "Playboy" ("Playdude") Kent State University shootings ("The Girls of Kent State: 4 Nude in Ohio") "The Godfather, Part II" (someone shot at a toolbooth) Pillsbury Bake-Off (Ovenfresh Bake-Off) Twinkees (Twinkle the Kid) Planters Peanuts / Mr. Peanut (Mr. Cashew) Keebler Elves (Koobler Dwarves) Rice Krispies / Snap, Crackle, and Pop (Snip, Crinkle, and Poof) Pringles (Pringles "face" at the party) Star-Kist / Charlie Tuna (at the party) Pillsbury / Popinfresh, the Pillsbury Doughboy (at the party) Land O' Lakes butter (the woman on the box was at the party) Jolly Green Giant (at the party) Froot Loops / Toucan Sam (at the party) 9F05 (they hires a contractor after Homer can't fix something himself) 9F19 (Bart blows bubbles from a pipe) FABF05 (Thomas Pynchon wears a bag over his head)

NOT REFERENCES "Rocko's Modern Life" (Rocko, like Brandine, was once introduced as "no last name")

DYN
...at the bake-off:
   Lunchlady Doris
   Smithers
   Jasper
   Manjula
   Hans Moleman
   "Stuart"
   Luigi
   Helen Jovejoy
   Agnes Skinner
   Captain MacAllister
   Brandine?
...Brandine doesn't use Cletus's last name?
...Jasper doesn't have a last name either?
...apparently, Marge has never been in Ruth Powers's old house since
   Ruth "moved out"?
...Sideshow Mel went to Cornell?  (Maybe being Ivy League is a
   requirement to work with Krusty - after all, Sideshow Bob went to
   Yale)
...the New Delhi Daily costs 2 rupees?
...unlike the Pillsbury Bake-Off (which is every two years), the
   Ovenfresh Bake-Off is every year (the letter Marge got said that
   they reject entries "every year")?

GOOFS / FREEZE FRAME / WHATNOT It took two years to build the new kitchen, yet nobody's kids got older. (Maybe it's the growth-stunting drugs?)

When the parents were at Homer's front door, Luann van Houten was there - but doesn't she live in Capitol City now?

The new kitchen is much bigger than the old one.

Marge was frying something at the bake-off (after she put her dessert dogs in the oven), but nothing else was on the dish she brought into the judging area.

The sign outside Bart's treehouse said that you must be cooler than Milhouse to enter - so why was Milhouse allowed?

When Homer removed the ceiling light, there were no wires attached to it.

Lisa got a "gray eye" because of a painted keyhole, but the door had a metal plate (you can see the screws attaching it to the door), which isn't painted.

Brandine made a different dish for the final (with a pig) than she did to qualify (with an armadillo); you're only supposed to be judged on the dish whose recipe you sent in.

-- Don S1.1 MAG+++ LIS++ BAR+ SKI+ MrsK+ MissH+ P&S# FLA- (heresy!) f+++ n+++ Ilps(w) $+++ M42 And now, for the big question: will the new kitchen be there next week? (Even if they do decide to keep it, next week's episode was produced before this one...)

Steve BrownDon Del Grande

Don Del Grande wrote in message news:...

That was part of the joooooke.

She's still Milhouse's mom, and she's shown up back in Springfield before now, since FABF07. Odder was Willie's appearance there.

Don Del GrandeSteve Brown

Steve Brown wrote:

It might have been, had they referenced it somehow. (If anything, they "de-referenced" it when Homer called Bart a 10-year-old boy, but then again, it wouldn't be the first time Homer got some fact about his family wrong.)

-- Don
Steve BrownDon Del Grande

Don Del Grande wrote in message news:...

They showed every member of OFF in the very next scene, with Maggie right in the middle. It was subtle, but it was a joke (my friends and I thought it was hilarious).

Aaron HirshbergDon Del Grande

snip

"They shot Sonny on the causeway" in the 1st Godfather movie. In the 2nd movie it was Hyman Roth, his bodyguard, Fredo, and so on.

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SparkyDon Del Grande

Don Del Grande wrote:

"The Godfather", actually, not GF II. Sonny, played by James Caan, is lured out of the compound by Carlo beating up Connie yet again (Sonny's famous temper). Sonny pays the toll, the toll keeper drops to the floor and a bunch of thugs pop up and shoot Sonny many times, ending with the kick to the face. Sonny's death gets Don Vito out of his sickbed (he'd been shot a few weeks (months?) before), which leads to that famous visit to Buonasera, who is asked by the Don to perform him a service: "I can't let his mother see him like this".

NathanDon Del Grande

Don Del Grande wrote in message news:...

Or she just can't remember it.

Bart apparently retained his obsession with the Playdude bachelor lifestyle for two years, also.

Nathan

DennisNathan

They have blipped out a line from Marge's script toward the end of Episode two 19mins 52secs, have a listen and you will notice it.

What does she say I wonder??

Homer "And Marge you will always be the best chef in our house" Marge "Ergh Beat (muted/blipped section) thee I've had your scrambled eggs Homer, the secret ingredient is whiskey or whisking"

Anyone know where we can get the scripts from??

Don Del GrandeDennis

Dennis wrote:

The line, as it aired (at least in the Western USA), is: "Eh, B <blank> D. I've had your scrambled eggs, Homer..." (The closed-captioning has Marge's entire line removed except for "is whiskey".) It must have been a last-minute decision, as otherwise they probably would have just asked Julie Kavner to record something in its place. I assume it was supposed to be "BFD" (Big F***ing Deal). Did the line air unedited in the original (Eastern USA) airing?

Actual scripts aren't usually made public. (You can't, for example, go to Fox and buy one.) There used to be online stores that sold scripts for various movies and TV series, but I haven't seen any in a while, and besides, they usually had just a small selection.

-- Don
Matt GarveyDon Del Grande

Don Del Grande wrote:

Nope. I checked my tape - it's B...D in our airing, too, and the closed captioning is crudely edited too. Technically it has the look of a transmission error - the CC actually says "is whiskey.ent" (the "ent" coming from "ingredient") - but obviously we know it was a last-minute edit. I guess it's time to take bets...I suggest that it stays this way (with the CC cleaned up, maybe) for the Fox repeats, and is untouched in syndication next year.

Seems like an odd thing, anyway - I'm sure plenty of kids with virgin ears would be satisfied with the explanation that it's "big freakin' deal," though parents sometimes dislike that too. Whatever...it's Fox.

Don Del GrandeMatt Garvey

Matt Garvey wrote:

The closed captioning appeared that way in the western feed version as well.

I think they'll get Julie to dub in a new line - probably "Eh, big deal" (or "Eh, big whoop").

-- Don
Matt GarveyDon Del Grande

Don Del Grande wrote:

Now I'm trying to remember a recent (season 14 or 15) Marge line - it was something like "big [not whoop]...who gives a bibble?"