Continuinity Whatever

Dec 12, 2001, 12:16 AM ET21 posts by 15 posters
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Jack Of Spades

I don't understand why people are all uptight over the continuinity issue from Sunday's episode. Isn't it obvious that continuinity doesn't exist? Let me explain:

  • If there was continuinity, the characters would be aging.
  • If there was continuinity, Springfield would truly be in a state.

3. If there was continuinity, Bart would have actually learned his lessons.

4. If there was continuinity, Homer would be eating healthier, Krusty's show would still be cancelled, the female dog that SLH fell in love with would still be in the house, along with the swimming pool, tennis court, etc.

What else could I add to this list? Never mind, all I know is that:

If there was continuinity, THEN there wouldn't be much of a show left, think about it.

DangibJack Of Spades

con�ti�nu�i�ty (knt-n-t, -ny-) n. pl. con�ti�nu�i�ties -The state or quality of being continuous. -An uninterrupted succession or flow; a coherent whole.

    -A detailed script or scenario consulted to avoid discrepancies from
shot to shot in a film, allowing the various scenes to be shot out of order.
    -Spoken matter serving to link parts of a radio or television program so
that no break occurs.

Any of the things you point out would obviously break continuity

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OneMonk909Dangib

issue from Sunday's episode. Isn't it obvious that continuinity doesn't exist?<<

Because the majority of the posters on here are comic book geeks with nothing better to do than obsses and bitch over things like this. This is why I also love it when the Comic Book Guy is made fun of on the show -- obviously making fun of such die-hard "fans." Especially the episode in which Homer pointed at the CBG and asked the crowd "Does anyone care what THIS guy thinks?"

As someone once said, all stories are imaginary -- so who gives a damn about continuity.

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Amen. I have yet to figure out what aesthetic comfort someone can get from animated fiction remaining internally consistent. If Seymour Skinner becomes Armin Tanzarian for one episode, I don't give a damn as long as it's funny. The "funny" part is independent of the "consistent" part... but not for every fan, apparently.

Sydney AssbasketNim

I really don't care about the characters not aging, there are many comic strips and probably quite a few TV shows where the characters do not age or age very slowly. What does bother me is direct contradictions of stuff that was shown previously, i.e., Ned Flanders being raised by beatniks, but he's 60 years old. If you show something one way, don't change it so that the change is totally implausible. Something like Skinner being Armin Tamzarian doesn't really contradict anything shown previously (except that he and Agnes do look alike). ________________________________________________________________

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KatijaikatSydney Assbasket

And "Sheldon Skinner" in the Hellfish looks like Seymour/Armin, not Seymour.

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MegafrimJack Of Spades

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BigmacJack Of Spades

I don't mind too much when the continuity is disrupted occasionaly, but I don't agree with your argument, Jack. What you're listing aren't as much continuity issues as they are realism issues. In fact, the continuity of the Simpsons world is maintained by not having the characters age, keeping Springfield stateless, and Bart careless.

It is when you change a fact that is already established - like having Lisa say she doesn't care about college, or having the power plant built at a totally different time period than earlier episodes... that's when the continuity is disrupted. And that does get annoying at times.

Jack Of Spades wrote:

Nate in H-townBigmac

It's pronounced con-ti-nu-IN-ity. Con-ti-nu-IN-ity.

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Jack Of SpadesBigmac

But that's another thing, the show is a cartoon, realism doesn't exist either.

Let's say it this way, there is a difference between an animated sitcom and a real human sitcom. In a real human sitcom, it has to be real on the account that the actors will age, so must the character. Location doesn't have to be in a state or real town, even though it's preferred (unless it's a kids show). Also, with all the realism, once in a while you might as well change the way one character is or outst him/her.

An animated sitcom doesn't need any of that, if you haven't noticed already for as long as you can put the Lockness Monster in a regular episode, it's perfectly obvious that a cartoon IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE REAL PERIOD. It's as simple as that.

And I know what you are thinking, Maude is still dead, Lisa is still a vegetarian. Well guess what, those don't count because neither character is popular enough and Lisa acts too real for the show anyway, wait a minute, is Barbara Streisand for real?

As I said, what difference does it make? And by the way, the time Lisa said she didn't care about college was when she found out that her father was in possession of a 1 trillion dollar bill, and it makes sense, having one trillion dollars makes a high-tech engineering job look puny.

Jeremy SteinbergBigmac

I don't know. I thought it was funny when Lisa said "Who cares about college? Let's buy dune buggies!" It's strange or suspiciously odd and curious, and thus by one of the definitions, it is technically funny.

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LinkJeremy Steinberg

Lisa is a nine year-old kid. Are you realy gonna be surprised when a nine year-old kid says something inconsistant or even downright bombastic?!?

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Brian BeckLink

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Also, that's not a change in history, it's a change in personality, which is reasonable. When we find out Skinner is really Tamzerian, that's actually a change in the history of a show. Same for the timing of the SNPP opening.

Brian

SurlyJack Of Spades

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    It's OK to have a certain amount of discontinuity, as each episode is
designed to be a self-supporting story. This is why everything is back to
normal at the end of the episode (hmm... much earlier than usual). However,
there are certain cases a level of continuity is required.
    The Simpsons are supposed to live within a certain universe (a fictional
one, which is why Springfield doesn't need to be in a certain state). What
this means is that the Springfield universe should have a common history
from which to draw on.
For example, you cannot have one episode where all of the sudden it was not
Jebediah Springfield who founded the town (or Hanz Sprungfeld for that
matter), without any explanation. You cannot have an episode where all of
the sudden The nuclear plant is a hydroelectric dam, and we are supposed to
believe it was always like that.
    It is in this same line of reasoning that since the town has a common
history and certain constants, Springfield Nuclear Power Plant opened when
Homer was at the end of his high school days, and this is why people get
upset when all of the sudden  the writers change this history so that the
plant was apparently opened 12 years earlier, it causes confusion. It is
important for the writers to consider and respect certain episodes (usually
'flashback' episodes) that set up a significant event in the Springfield
Universe. Screwing around with the universe and history should be left with
THOH eps.
Surly Old people don't need companionship. They need to be isolated and studied so it can be determined what nutrients they have that might be extracted for our personal use.
SurlyJack Of Spades

(I will....no you won't)

    It's OK to have a certain amount of discontinuity, as each episode is
designed to be a self-supporting story. This is why everything is back to
normal at the end of the episode (hmm... much earlier than usual). However,
there are certain cases where a level of continuity is required.
    The Simpsons are supposed to live within a certain universe (a fictional
one, which is why Springfield doesn't need to be in a certain state). What
this means is that the Springfield universe should have a common history
and some key facts from which to draw on.
    For example, you cannot have one episode where all of the sudden it was
not
Jebediah Springfield who founded the town (or Hanz Sprungfeld for that
matter), but instead "Jim Brown" because it sounds better in some gag. You
cannot have an episode where all of the sudden The nuclear plant is a
hydroelectric dam, because it sets up some commentary. The town was founded
by Jebediah Springfield, and is powered by a Nuclear Power plant. That's
just the way it is and must be.
    It is in this same line of reasoning that since the town has a common
history and certain constants, Springfield Nuclear Power Plant opened when
Homer was at the end of his high school days, and this is why people get
upset when all of the sudden  the writers change this history so that the
plant was apparently opened 12 years earlier, it causes confusion. It is
important for the writers to consider and respect certain episodes (usually
'flashback' episodes) that set up a significant event in the Springfield
Universe. Screwing around with the universe and history should be left with
THOH eps.
Surly Old people don't need companionship. They need to be isolated and studied so it can be determined what nutrients they have that might be extracted for our personal use.
Jeremy SteinbergSurly

I agree for the most part. Besides, not having that consistent history would make trivia questions a lot harder (Questions such as in what two years were the Springfield Power Plant built?)

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