Fox Double Standard

Nov 18, 2002, 11:14 AM ET22 posts by 16 posters
22 posts
Lurker at Large

Last week, the football game caused the Prime Time Line up to start two minutes late. And Fox started Futurama in Progress.

This week, the football game goes into OT, and causes The Simpsons to start five minutes late. Fox shows the episode in it's entirety.

Why should Fox give such treatment to one show over another? True, they have said this will probably be Futurama's last season, but still, it's no excuse.

Brad FilipponeLurker at Large

I don't know. I watched on Globel in Canada where it started right on time :)

Brad

Marvin KaplanskyBrad Filippone

But thanks to those idiots at Global it ended five minutes late (at least in Ontario), presumably to synchronize with Fox which was running five minutes late.

Marvin Kaplansky

Chris BootonMarvin Kaplansky

Is that why there was like 10 mins of comercials before the third act?

ZedMarvin Kaplansky

I noticed that too. Good thing I was watching and not using my VCR timer to tape it and watch it later or else I would have missed the ending. That network is very unreliable.

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Mark WildenZed

"Zed" wrote in message news:[email]...

British TV has this great feature where you record shows, not time periods.

Ted S.Mark Wilden

Somebody claiming to be "Mark Wilden" wrote in news:[email]:

But didn't the BBC use this feature a year or so ago to force all Britain's Tivos into recording a new BBC show instead of whatever people had scheduled to record at that time?

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Mark WildenTed S.

"Ted S." wrote in message news:[email]...

I hadn't heard about that. I didn't have TiVo when I lived there, a couple of years ago. I find it hard to believe they could get away with that, though.

Chris JonesTed S.

Close - it forced the Tivo to record a particular show *if it wasn't doing anything else at the time*. They wouldn't have got away with changing the user's settings like you suggest :-)

Still, it's a shame the BBC is losing the Simpsons soon, it just won't be the same with a commercial break in the middle ... but ah well, what can we do.

Mark WildenChris Jones

"Chris Jones" wrote in message news:XyVC9.7516$dz2.978103@stones...

That's not really close at all, IMO. My TiVo is always recording stuff I didn't ask it to. Doesn't affect me in the least, and sometimes, I even watch some of it.

Since the scripts were written with commercials in mind, it actually seemed weird to me to watch them without commercials on BBC2.

Alan HamiltonMark Wilden

On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 20:42:57 -0800, "Mark Wilden" wrote:

However, the appeal of the "suggestion" system was that it was supposed to record things you might want to watch, rather than what someone paid TiVo for. The full story is at http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/25436.html

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Mark WildenAlan Hamilton

"Alan Hamilton" wrote in message news:arhro3$im7kd$[email]...

Yes, yes, of course. I wasn't defending TiVo--just correcting an exaggeration.

Ted S.Chris Jones

Somebody claiming to be "Chris Jones" wrote in news:XyVC9.7516$dz2.978103@stones:

Then I misread the story (it was sent to me by a libertarian newsletter to which I subscribe, and the link was in the online Guardian or Independent). I could have swore that the original story said the Beeb were overriding user settings.

Except, of course, the show was designed to have two commercial breaks in it in the first place. Three, if you count the break between the intro and Act 1, which is usually taken out in syndication.

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Benjamin RobinsonTed S.

In alt.tv.simpsons, on the "Re: Fox Double Standard" thread, Ted S. wrote:

That's just about what happened. There was some new series the BBC wanted to promote, and somehow they managed to jerry-rig every TiVo in the area to record it. Not only that, but you could not delete it for a week or so. If you had something else scheduled to record, the TiVo would record that -- the BBC wasn't so cheeky as to override your own settings. Even so, BBC's audience was rather annoyed, and I haven't heard of them doing it again.

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JamieMarvin Kaplansky

seriously? that is the most ridiculous, inane shit i have heard in a while. is this type of thing a regular occurence on the mentioned channels? and I suppose they have full allocated commercial time?

Chris BootonBrad Filippone

Me too, except global doesent show futurama, and since Fox from Buffalo was showing the game, we missed out :( .

mister stoopsLurker at Large

have

excuse.

repeat after me ...

fox ...

sucks.

good! now you try it!

any network that advertises and supports that 70s show and titus over futurama and family guy is worthless. when the inevitable happens and the simpsons are retired, fox will be in trouble. they'll have fox sports and ... well, that's about it.

Jamiemister stoops

"I suppose you don't like tabloid newspapers either!!"

UniblabLurker at Large

"Lurker at Large" wrote in message news:[email]...

minutes

start

have

excuse.

"The Simpsons" gets high ratings and makes Fox a lot of money. "Futurama" doesn't.

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Jeremy BUniblab

"The Simpsons" airs in a favored timeslot, and is heavily advertised. Futurama is frequently pre-empted in half the country, and is almost never advertised. "It all starts at 8", remember?

And yet... and yet... this week, Futurama out-performed FOX's darling, "Macolm in the Middle". "Have you ever cooked a human... out of love?"
HeatherLurker at Large

Because, i feel, Futurama has been pretty much slaughtered by the repeated abuse of fox and its airing of sporting events....

you never know if you will see it or it will be on time or in full.... they just do not seem to care.

Simpsons OTOH is a long running popular show.... they do not want to mess with those fans i guess.

two minutes >late. And Fox started Futurama in >Progress.

start >five minutes late. Fox shows the episode >in it's entirety.

they have >said this will probably be Futurama's last >season, but still, it's no excuse.