Notes for KABF19 (Homer and Lisa Exchange Cross Words)

S20E06 Homer and Lisa Exchange Cross WordsliveNov 16, 2008, 9:48 PM ET2 hours after the credits7 posts by 5 postersalt.tv.simpsons
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Matt Garveyalt.tv.simpsons

Well hey, I like crosswords, and any halfway decent execution would pretty much ensure a good reception from me. This was more than half... there'll be lots for me to look at closely later, that's for sure, but the actual plot itself was worthy. The title alone suggests the Homer/Lisa story, and it recalled shades of some older ones. 8F12 comes to mind for obvious reasons, but the severity of Lisa's reaction to the revelation was noteworthy and brought to mind the end of 7F19 (both of these in a good way). Homer's breakup business kind of petered out near the middle, but I did like the way Marge got him to stop. Uh... tackling the actual crossword tomorrow, and I imagine most of the notable things will have been mentioned already, but we'll see.

DYN: ...some opening credits seem oddly spaced (vertically)? See the Producers for examples. ...Lisa seems to have solved a number of cryptic crosswords? (See below) ...a credit for Merl Reagle's creation of tonight's crossword puzzles after the voice credits?

Previous episode references 2F12: Homer rides a small bike, and his ass gets involved EABF12: Scott Thompson reappears as Grady (Hank Azaria as Julio too) EABF18: Lisa's "A Beautiful Mind"-esque room, coded messages, including an acrostic message from a Simpson to offspring EABF07: Duh... (some other similar competitions may come to mind but this really sticks out) 8F12: Homer and Lisa and betting/fallout 2F15, FABF18: Of the 5 "deleted" from the dictionary words, "zounds" and "mimeograph" appear conspicuously in these episodes (the others may as well) DABF20: According to my records, aglets were seen but not named here too (and in an episode like this, why not??) 8F01, 1F03: "really, really, really..."

Other stuff Don Del Grande has already called attention to Homer's quick stab at breakups in 8F16. The business aspect in this episode reminds me of the "Bad News Breakers", a sketch on Mr. Show in which two cute little girls (apparently twins but I think just sisters) are used for the same purpose, lessening the impact because of their cuteness.

Lisa does a variety of puzzles, including what appear to be "cryptic crosswords" (they generally take on the form where every other column and row is not used, though some regular crosswords use this form too). They're fun but pretty difficult; I myself am working through several books of them put out by Mensa, so perhaps Lisa would find them her speed too.

Several of Lisa's puzzles take more of the Scrabble form, including most of the ones she constructs. They don't seem quite as challenging, though, and to me are most useful for shoehorning a certain set of words into a puzzle, as in a vocabulary book.

If you liked this episode, go rent the movie "Wordplay"! Several things seen tonight, including some of the graphical bits and split screens, tournament play, and Will and Merl working to create specialized (occasionally custom) puzzles, are in that. (Once, they helped work a marriage proposal into a Sunday puzzle, though that was in the middle row, not a diagonal.)

I didn't have time to look closely at all the puzzles yet, or even look at today's real NYT puzzle... but a few things: -Homer's short message is 21 letters, which is appropriate. -His longer one, by my count, is 149. He quoted 144, but that may be approximate.

Meta-reference corner Chalmers: Simpson!, no-reason yelling Skinner!, and Skimmer! with the last two being overheard by Skinner. This may be the first time the show actually acknowledges that Marge's maiden name is Jackie Kennedy's too.

Goofs and stuff -Homer is told to shut the door most of the way before being told about the bets, but nothing ever comes of it. Maybe in a deleted scene Lisa overheard that, but didn't mind until Homer bet against her? -Homer and the bartender don't look each other in the eyes, but that doesn't mean they can't look at the rest of their bodies to hand over the money. -"Hootenanny" seems to be in a different font from the other 4 deleted words. -There may be other violations of tournament procedure (certainly we only see the finals type anyway), but most notably, contestants wear white-noise headphones or something to avoid cheating and help concentration. -What's with the half-height lockers at SES all of a sudden?

Animation fun! Joining CABF16 and (haha) EABF18, among possible others, a between- scenes animation goof worked its way in. It appears to be at least a full frame. Near the end of act 1, after Bart makes a meta scene transition to Homer at the gay club, in white on back, HUGE text, Arial, centered: Scene 151 Take 2 Akom & Film Roman Fix

I imagine it'll be gone on the next airing, maybe even by the time the West gets it tonight. I wonder what the "fix" was!

Unrelated to this episode: -According to the new Upcoming Episodes page on snpp, and presumably Don's next post, there IS a KABF21 (The Burns and the Bees). I had heard somewhere that because of the strike, the KABF series might be shortened, so thought 20 would be the end before the LABFs. -KABF15 repeated tonight. No Paul Newman dedication. Good grief - I hope you taped it or it stays in syndication, because I don't think it'll ever show up again. -Family Guy's episode tonight (6ACX10) involved a spelling bee. Ha.

Matt Garvey wrote:

The TV version added the word "and" between "one hundred" and "forty-four". Other than that, I didn't notice any difference (so there would have been 147 on the TV version).

Damn TiVo - I can barely see it when playing at normal speed, but at slow speed or frame-by-frame, it gets skipped.

-- Don

On Nov 17, 12:18 am, Don Del Grande wrote:

Hmm, I didn't see that portion of it written out. I found the problem, though, and it wasn't just because of the "and" (which I suspected could be a problem). I wrote it out as "one" hundred, not "a" hundred, though I thought that's what he said out loud. I'll check that when I get a chance.

More crossword stuff below!

Oh, does it? I said it seemed like at least a frame, but maybe it was only a field (half frame) and I just got lucky that it was in the half that my VCR freezes on. (I wasn't so lucky with EABF18, yet I think you were.) I know some DVD players allow for field (not frame) stepping, so I wonder if there's an option on the TiVo.

CROSSWORD NOTES FROM MATT (PUZZLE SPOILERS) I got a chance to work on it today, taking about 1:45 before I had all the letters filled in. I seem to have 5 total errors, based on guesses (I had a G and M starting and ending 15D, and "hop" for 79A - which works for that clue and makes its downs appear like words), and I did have some other guesses that worked out OK. The only one I am not able to verify until I see an answer key is 82D, for which I have PIPAN and it seems to work. I have no idea how 67D (TONY) makes sense.

Don mentioned the theme note answer (though not that its clue also cleverly disguised the real clue to 127A), but here are some others that were put in intentionally and also many answers that seem Simpsons-quote-inspired even if only by chance.

Marked with asterisks (to note the inclusion of characters): HOMERunhitter (Bonds, for example) adogofFLANDERS (1872 novel) SELMAalabama (1965 march site) sideBURNS (Elvis features) sausagePATTY (Breakfast option) texasa&MAGGIEs (Archrivals of the Longhorns) froMARGEntina (Born in Buenos Aires, perhaps) and as regular clues: LISA (1A - Crossword-solving Simpson) ABE (63D - Grampa Simpson - the only D clue) BART (130A - Homer's imp son [groan])

Note that no Hank Azaria characters are included! Also, there is a neat amount of symmetry in the answers, with Lisa and Bart in opposite corners, Homer and Marge 2 rows in, Patty and Selma not only in matching rows but also in symmetric places within the answers...

I'm sure a reference could be made from the show for almost every clue, but here are some that struck me: CABF14: "JFK Library architect" PEI (I.M. impressed!) BABF06: Not only was the answer above designed to include Maggie's name, but the Springfield U and Springfield A&M rivalry introduced here is probably modeled on Texas general (ET): a clue for ARBUTUS is "Trailing ___ (evergreen shrub)" 1F20: DYE ("Turn blue?") (I mean, come on, the clue could have used almost any color) 5F20: EMU ("Australian grazer") BABF21 (etc): OAF ("Dolt") (They couldn't go with "dunce"?) general: OFF! ("Away from") (But still!) ~5F01: NRA ("Colt's fans?: abbr.") (OK, it wasn't the NRA then, but it was referred to as such in DABF12) 7G10: CAM ("Spy tool, briefly") (A stretch, but how many other TV shows does that appear in) 3F31: REB ("Fighting Johnny") (I lost it when I figured out what this had to be; I'd suspected it hopefully) 3F04: SNAG ("Hitch in plans") 1F06: The clue is "Donny ___" (the answer is &MARIE, using the ampersand the A&M clue instructed us to include), but boy if I didn't keep thinking "DON'T" whenever my eye passed by the clue general: MIDGES ("Tiny flies") (Midge! It even uses the same G as the planted MARGE) KABF08: FOSSE ("All That Jazz man") (Maybe because it's fresh in my mind, but hey)

OK, so they're not all great, but there are some gems in there, and I still wonder if any were intentional.

It's MeMatt Garveyalt.tv.simpsons

Hi

Also enjoyed the crossword motif.

Can anyone tell me what word Lisa used to describe a crossword nut, or wordsmith-type of person she was?

My wife was yapping and I could not hear that word. I think she used it twice.

Thanks

Cruciverbalist. "Cruci" means "cross" (as in "crucifix") and "verbal" of course means "word". It's a common term among puzzle fans.