How low can you go?

May 19, 2002, 9:25 PM ET30 posts by 19 posters
30 posts
Dung Nguyen

In all my years of watching the Simpsons, I have never seen the creators stooping to such a low level as in tonight's episode. It presents a totally inaccurate portrayal of the American judicial system. The episode shows Homer getting executed almost immediately after being convicted. In states where the death penalty is a mean of punishment, the condemned stays on death row for an average of 10 years before being executed. The Simpsons' plead of innocence was totally ignored, while Homer's accepting full responsibility for the crime was accepted without question. The incompetent lawyer representing them is enough cause for a retrial to be given. The ending is even worse, it does nothing to assuage the (European) stereotype that the death penalty, as practiced in the United States, is barbaric, and executions treated like carnivals. In its 400-year history, the North American continent have never burned anyone at the stake, and in cases where many innocent people were wrongly accused and hanged (as in the Salem witchcraft trials, where only 20 people died wrongly), the people recognized their mistakes and apologized for it. It is true there are cases of mob lynchings in the United States, but those acts are illegal under the law. Europeans, on the other hand, have at one time in its history, burned 5000 accused "witches" in a single day in one city. During the 1930's, Germans stood idly by while their LEGALLY ELECTED leader systematically committed genocide on entire peoples. Now they're criticizing the United States for having the death penalty, which they consider barbaric. I say shut up, Great Britain (who burned Joan of Arc at the stake), Germany (who committed genocide and denied it), France (who guillotined countess revolutionaries), and let Switzerland criticize us. I know some of you might disagree with me in my view on the death penalty, but the Simpsons' representation of is is totally inaccurate, and would only make the hypocritical Europeans more critical of the death penalty in the US. Besides, 70% of American agree with me. So, as Bart says, Europe, eat my shorts.

GadiantonDung Nguyen

Oh please, there are all kinds of eps that have weird legal stuff going on that could never happen in real life.

P. Piggly HogswineGadianton

"Gadianton" wrote in message news:[email]...

-- care to join me in a belt of scotch?

uncalm311Dung Nguyen

it's a cartoon.

"Dung Nguyen" wrote in message news:[email]...

HomerpaloozaDung Nguyen

Dung Nguyen wrote:

And this was recently, right?

Not good. But they don't do it on a weekly basis.

Again, that was the past.

Which they should rightfully do. The death penalty *is* barbaric...please, explain to me how it's not.

Ay...it looks to me like you're just thinly vieling an episode of THE SIMPSONS in order to stick it to another country and inflate your ego.

-=Apesy

GadiantonHomerpalooza

Homerpalooza wrote:

Actually, it's not barbaric enough. Injection is way too humane for some of the creeps that they've executed.

Martin SchlömerHomerpalooza

Hey, i didn't commit genocide on anyone recently. Can i criticise the death penalty? Please?

Martin.

Chris®Homerpalooza

Murder is barbaric. Executing murderers is not. You may not share that belief, but my belief is just as valid. If you cannot accept the death penalty, then move to Canada, where general attitudes are more in line with your own.

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R. JacobsDung Nguyen
  • It's only a tv show.
  • It's only a tv show.

Repeat until you get the point, dude.

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Aaron HirshbergR. Jacobs

"R. Jacobs" wrote in message news:...

Hey, when Homer traveled back in time using a toaster, Niehls Bohr didn't post a message here complaining about the scientific inaccuracy of time travel using a toaster!

Space

KelekaAaron Hirshberg

On 20 May 2002 13:45:33 -0700, [email] (Aaron Hirshberg) wrote:

Maybe that indicates that toaster time travel is possible. I mean each house only needs one toaster, but we keep buying more. Where 'do' all the old toasters go?

P. Piggly HogswineAaron Hirshberg

"Aaron Hirshberg" wrote in message news:[email]...

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that's Bohring! you're Bohring everybody! quit Bohring everyone!

YamaP. Piggly Hogswine

Edison did this and this, and he also did that, and his middle name was Alva, and he lived in New Jersey and his middle name was Alva and he did this and this and that and this and that, and did I mention that his middle name was Alva. He tried to create a phone to talk to the dead, so he could do this and that. He invented the lightbulb, the stock ticker, the thingy, the other thingy, the phonograph, the light bulb, and his middle name was Alva.

David GarvinAaron Hirshberg

Aaron Hirshberg wrote:

Of course he didn't, you see, he attempted to disprove it himself when he disappeared in a blinding flash of light, and then surfaced in several photographs of the US Civil War ;)

David Garvin Oromocto, NB
Aaron HirshbergDavid Garvin

David Garvin wrote in message news:...

Yeah, yeah,yeah! I saw that movie "12 Monkeys", too!

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Dung NguyenDung Nguyen

The latest poll taken by Gallup shows that 70% of Americans do support the death penalty. Visit www.gallup.com and see.

Dung NguyenStar Ocean 3

"Star Ocean 3" wrote in message news:[email]...

Didn't you hear what Chief Wiggum says at the end? "You tied up the judicial system, causing the city millions of dollars, just for a TV show?" It's obvious that everything was real, except for the death.

Star Ocean 3Dung Nguyen

Someone else had to be in on it besides the old woman and the guy with braces.

CainmanDung Nguyen

"Dung Nguyen" wrote in message news:ac9r5s$8rp$[email]...

show?"

oh, bitch, bitch, bitch.

Chris®Dung Nguyen

What is it about the phrase "it's just a cartoon" do you not fucking understand? Have you ever seen a woman with Marge's hairstyle?

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JS577Dung Nguyen

I didn't get to see the show. I don't think I missed too much. But don't worry, at least us Americans bathe more than Europeans, so we smell better. We may execute criminals, but at least we don't have soccer riots. So rejoice. The Europeans are not any less violent than Americans, they just use their rage at different outlets than Americans.

CainmanDung Nguyen

oh, bitch, bitch, bitch.

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Jason SaslowDung Nguyen

David Garvin wrote:

I like how he goes on a 600 page dissertation about how the poorly the American justice system was portrayed in this cartoon and how angry he is about it but has nothing at all to say about the screamapillar or the EPA guy hiding behind a tree that was less than 6 inches thick.

Uh, perhaps he should lighten up a bit...

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Dung NguyenDung Nguyen

David Garvin wrote in message news:...

Well, in that episode, the viewer never got to see Sideshow Bob being executed, do they? And does anyone, after watching that episode, seriously believes that that's the end of Sideshow Bob?

David GarvinDung Nguyen

Of course not! That's my point...exactly! And I don't think that ANYONE (except maybe you) feels that the Simpsons accurately represent ANYTHING.

David Garvin Oromocto, NB
BoscoDung Nguyen

Dung Nguyen has JUMPED THE SHARK!

PS: I don't think that anyone named "Dung" should be taken seriously.