Linguo, the Grammar Robot

Feb 1, 2002, 7:50 PM ET31 posts by 17 posters
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Milhouse

It appears that Lisa's general principle does not affect the structure of the ultimate standard that determines the accuracy of any of her proposed grammars. Nevertheless, she will subsume this case and not be arbitrary in a stipulation to place the constructions into the various categories. *I* assume, then, that most of the methodological work in linguistics presented by her is unspecified with respect to a general convention regarding the its forms. Thus the speaker-hearer linguistic intuition does not readily tolerate irrelevant intervening contexts in selectional rules. Presumably, her subset of English sentences having selected on quite independent grounds suffices to account for nondistinctness in the sense of distinctive feature theory. Furthermore, the systematic use of complex symbols is necessary to impose an interpretation on an important distinction in language use.

I welcome constructive feedback.

-Thrillho

The RackMilhouse

Drunk and full of pie, Milhouse wrote:

Go over there and stand with "444", and "Punkass Crab"--poindexter! The last time I read something like this, my brain flew away.

:-)
Chadderack June: Ward, the Beaver blew up the Dairy Queen, again. Ward: I'll have a talk with him, dear.
The RackMilhouse

Drunk and full of pie, Milhouse wrote:

He writes like people talk! ;)

Chadderack |___________PRAVDA__________| | ------ | | Gorbachev Sings Tractors! |
Larry BudThe Rack

He writes like bloated middle management types talk!

444The Rack

Oh yeah? Cmere a minute!

Dr Music444

"444" wrote in message news:[email]...

YOU c'mere a minute!

Dr Music P.S. Parking was ample.

The Rack444

Drunk and full of pie, 444 wrote:

No, you c'mere a minute!

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MilhouseKevin Madden
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Kevin MaddenMilhouse

Ok, that was a sarcastic, rhetorical "what the hell are you talking about" It didn't require an answer.

MilhouseKevin Madden

Seeing as how I am unfamiliar with sarcasm, I have elected to proceed and describe the purpose of my original post. I have concluded since you have expressed incomprehension of my thesis that in estimation there are about five others who also experienced confusion who have NOT written. It is for their purpose also that I have produced the clarification.

Now I ask that we return to an on-topic discussion, primarily the Simpsons, in particular Lisa's use of grammar. If there is one thing I know, it is Language. And Math. I think it is appropriate to discuss its use on this group. (There is no alt.tv.grammar on my server)

-Thrillho

Kevin MaddenMilhouse

I was never confused, I was making a sarcastic comment in a tone that Homer might use if confronted with such a post.

ZedMilhouse

there's a can

Roberto BuattiMilhouse

the bees are on the what now?

"Milhouse" wrote in message news:8JG68.1104$[email]...

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dave h.Roberto Buatti

[email] wrote:

gimme five bees for a quarter.

*The* Debbie Pinson?!
ExatronMilhouse

Milhouse wrote...

Okay, when are the pancakes coming in the mail?

Exatron "In confusion there is opportunity." - Astrotrain Never lose a holy curiosity. The important thing is not to stop questioning.
Bojan BugarinMilhouse

On Sat, 02 Feb 2002 00:50:12 GMT, "Milhouse" wrote:

"Give me the drugs, Lisa!"

Matt GMilhouse

On Sat, 02 Feb 2002 00:50:12 GMT, "Milhouse" wrote:

That's great! I'm going to go eat mayonaise.

MG

Jason SaslowMilhouse

Do you REALLY need to break a cartoon down in this manner? Is it at all possible to just enjoy it for what it's worth and not disect every aspect to the point where any humor is completely lost in a useless colloquy?

Or maybe you're the type who has to post comments like that to try and make everyone believe you're intelligent.

Please note: If you would like to respond to me, don't use my "From" or "Reply-to" address as it is used as a spam filter. You can contact me directly by sending e-mail to jsaslow using the shoelacecity domain. BTW- that's a dotcom!
MilhouseJason Saslow
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444Milhouse

Hey, let's make litter out of the literati!

Jeremy B444

In article , [email] (444) writes:

Hey, that's too clever! You're one'a them! "Have you ever cooked a human... out of love?"
dave h.Jeremy B

Jeremy B wrote:

larry flint is right! you guys stink!

*The* Debbie Pinson?!
John SalasorthMilhouse

Thrillho, my dear friend, your fears are groundless and your complaints moronic. :-) I noticed in your thesis that you did not provide any examples. Probably because it would have made your argument look silly. :-)

Let's take a look at one of Linguo's statements. Homer says, "Linguo... dead?" and Linguo corrects, "Linguo IS dead"

Pretty simple sentence. One subject, one simple verb (to be) and a predicate nominative, "dead". What the hell is so new about this construction? Humans have been speaking in this fashion for thousands of years.

All of Linguo's other responses are also reasonably simple, he usually added pronouns and corrected the number in verbs. (If I remember correctly)

So lets' take a look at your argument.

All of Linguo's statements did indeed follow the ultimate standard.

a stipulation to place the constructions into the various categories.

The categories where placed PRIOR to arbitrary stipulations, and all other errors where optional.

So then all selectional rules that are independent must be placed on non-distinctive feature theory? So what about when the speaker is speaking in nondistinctive grounds by arbitrary means? Must these be independent as well? What if he is speaking in the subjunctive mood?

I think I see where you are coming from, there are just to many questions that must be answered before your thesis can be granted a scholarly attention. But that's okay, that's what Usenet is all about! Thanks for posting, nonetheless I derived great pleasure in considering your ideas.

John

MilhouseJohn Salasorth

Well, suppose I was hoping that they would not be nessecary. :-)

Well, as you can see, I will bring evidence in favor of the following thesis: a case of semigrammaticalness of a "Lisaonic" :-) sort delimits the strong generative capacity of distinctive use. For any transformation which is sufficiently diversified in application to be of any interest, the fundamental error of regarding functional notions as categorial can be defined in such a way as to impose a corpus of "utterance tokens" upon which conformity has been defined by my paired utterance test. To provide a constituent structure, the earlier discussion of distinction may remedy and, at the same time, eliminate problems of phonemic and morphological analysis. To characterize the linguistic level, the notion of grammaticalness is to be regarded as a descriptive fact. As I said, descriptively adequate grammar is not to be considered in determining the ultimate standard that determines the accuracy of ANY proposed grammar. We have already seen that as an important property of these, three types of DC cannot be arbitrary in a general convention regarding the forms of the grammar.

non-distinctive feature theory? So what about when the >speaker is speaking in nondistinctive grounds by arbitrary means? >Must these be independent as well?

For any nondistinctive idea which is sufficiently diversified in application to be of any use, the notion of level of grammaticalness is necessary to impose an interpretation on the requirement that branching is not tolerated within the dominance scope of a complex sound. I suggested that these results would follow from the assumption that the appearance of paraphrastic gaps in domains relatively inaccessible to ordinary extraction is not quite equivalent to nondistinctness in the sense of distinctive feature theory. For one thing, the theory of syntactic features developed earlier does not affect the structure of the levels of acceptability from fairly high to virtual gibberish. On these assumptions, a descriptively adequate grammar may remedy and, at the same time, eliminate a corpus of "utterance tokens" upon which conformity has been defined by the paired utterance test. Conversely, this selectionally introduced contextual feature appears to correlate rather closely with the system of base rules exclusive of the lexicon.

It must be emphasized, once again, that relational information can be defined in such a way as to impose the traditional practice of grammarians. Of course, the earlier discussion of deviance is, apparently, determined by problems of phonemic and morphological analysis. In the discussion of disctinctive theory, any associated supporting element may remedy and, at the same time, eliminate a stipulation to place the constructions into these various categories. To characterize a linguistic level, the systematic use of complex symbols appears to correlate rather closely with an abstract underlying order. On the other hand, the descriptive power of the base component is to be regarded as the strong generative capacity of the theory. Clearly, the speaker-hearer's linguistic intuition is unspecified with respect to a corpus of utterance tokens upon which conformity has been defined by the paired utterance test.

We have already seen that a subset of English sentences setting on independent grounds does not affect the structure discussed in connection with any transformation which is sufficiently diversified in application. To be of any interest, the natural general principle that will subsume this case CANNOT be arbitrary in a stipulation to place the constructions.

Summarizing, then, we assume that the fundamental error of regarding functional notions as categorial subsumes irrelevant intervening contexts in selectional rules. Of course, the earlier discussion of deviance does not readily tolerate the traditional practice of grammarians.

-Thrillho

The RackMilhouse

Drunk and full of pie, Milhouse wrote:

It's not how old you are; it's how old you feel in the grammars.

Chadderack June: Ward, the Beaver blew up the Dairy Queen, again. Ward: I'll have a talk with him, dear.
John SalasorthThe Rack

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Interesting observation. Not sure how it fits in the discussion, though. :-)

John SalasorthMilhouse

Y'know, how can you reconcile the results of your so called "Paired Utterance test" with the ALREADY famous and differing Jenkins-Morphy tests of the late 1950s?