D'oh

Sep 16, 2002, 12:04 PM ET18 posts by 11 postersalt.tv.simpsons
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Alanalt.tv.simpsons

In a TV interview with the makers of the Simpsons, I distinctly remember someone (Mr Groening?) saying they wanted an expression for Homer to use, like Oliver Hardy used in the Laurel and Hardy films. Hardy said "Doooooooooh", but that used too much valuable celluloid time, so it was shortened to "Doh".

Can anyone here support or counter-claim the 'true' origin of 'Doh' ?

Cheers Alan

Matt GarveyAlanalt.tv.simpsons

What do you mean by "true"? Your last sentence is sort of confusing... But that is correct as far as any of us know. I don't know if they were going for "an expression for Homer to use," since that implies that they were looking for a catchphrase, but I guess it first showed up (as it always does) as "(ANNOYED GRUNT)" in the script; Dan Castellaneta did the dooooooh, then MG said "great, but faster" (or something like that).

Alan wrote:

AlanMatt Garveyalt.tv.simpsons

My memory isn't what it used to be, therefore requiring external confirmation all the time! I'm sure the wife is slowly driving me insane claiming things that I have a clear memory of never actually happened...

Glad others concur anyway ;-)

Alan.

PS It's OK to top-post here then...? rec.puzzles positively frown upon it !

Matt GarveyAlanalt.tv.simpsons

I guess so...that's what Netscape defaults to, and I personally like it...each approach has its own advantages, but if something is really long and I only want to reply to a particular part, I'll do what I'm doing now. Here on a.t.s people do both and no one really complains much.

On Tue, 17 Sep 2002, Matt Garvey wrote:

The reason why you shouldn't top post is that it is easier to follow the thread if everyone replies below the quote, as that's the way the English language is read; down the page. And by top posting, people tend not to edit the quoted text, leading to excessively long messages.

/ Kristian |Kristian Ronge |[email]|[email]| |d99, datateknik, KTH (Kungliga Tekniska H�gskolan) | |d99, Computer Science, Royal Institute of Technology |

I don't want to get into a whoel thing (especially since your use of the word "shouldn't" implies very strong feelings on your part), but it might depend on how you read your news. My messages are listed in a hierarchy, and when I read a reply I've usually read what's above it...thus, it leads to less scrolling when something is top-posted. Also, the long messages usually aren't as much of a problem as they used to be, since bandwidth is greater (plus, all the extra junk falls to the bottom when you top-post, so again, wading through extra quoted material isn't as much of a problem). Let's just agree to disagree on this issue, then.

ExatronMatt Garveyalt.tv.simpsons

Matt Garvey wrote:

The hirearchy works great until the message expires or your news server fails to get some messages. There's really no point in bothering to quote someone if you're top posting.

Exatron "Strive for perfection even if others must suffer." - Hook The important thing is not to stop questioning. - Albert Einstein

On Tue, 17 Sep 2002, Matt Garvey wrote:

It's a deal!

/ Kristian |Kristian Ronge |[email]|[email]| |d99, Computer Science, Royal Institute of Technology |
Blues PunkAlanalt.tv.simpsons

"Alan" wrote in message news:[email]...

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I recall reading somewhere, quite a while ago, that it was somehow Three Stooges related, rather than Laurel and Hardy. Can't remember details other than that I'm afraid.

-Blues

That GuyAlanalt.tv.simpsons

Alla mine comes from da cumpany I work fer. They gives me da d'oh every payday. Udderwize I quit.

"Alan" wrote in message news:[email]...

Jouni PaakkinenAlanalt.tv.simpsons

On Mon, 16 Sep 2002 17:04:39 +0100, Alan wrote:

The scripts only say "annoyed grunt". MG left it up to Dan to decide what that meant.

Dan Castellaneta took "Dooooh" from Laurel & Hardy actor James Finlayson, he just made it shorter per MG's request.

-Jouni

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AlanJouni Paakkinenalt.tv.simpsons

On Mon, 16 Sep 2002 17:04:39 +0100, Alan wrote:

The scripts only say "annoyed grunt". MG left it up to Dan to decide what that meant.

Dan Castellaneta took "Dooooh" from Laurel & Hardy actor James Finlayson, he just made it shorter per MG's request.

imdb concurs ! http://us.imdb.com/Bio?Finlayson,+James
R H MenzelAlanalt.tv.simpsons

Alan wrote in message news:[email]...

That's 'cause they're correct!

Long live Finlayson!

On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, R H Menzel wrote:

"I wouldn't say yes, and I wouldn't say no."

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