And What We Have All Been Waiting For..............

Dec 11, 2001, 9:58 AM ET42 posts by 10 posters
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First "Worst Episode Ever" at ats.

Gander a guess at what year?

Try 1992:

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Intense? I thought this was easily the worst episode ever. Simply not funny. "Where did he put the firecracker?" I can't imagine child abuse being funny. Now, somebody being eaten by a gorilla, somebody being hit by lightning, that's funny. Child abuse is not. The way I interpreted it, this was a reference to a standard technique of using dolls to get physically/ sexually abused children to talk about the abuse incidents.

Bart dropping his pants. How many times is this funny? Well, it was funny when we saw it in a previous episode. But I don't think that Bart's butt is inherintly funny. Also, we have never actually seen Homer spank Bart, have we? So why does Bart expect it so readily?

Bart as a stripper. Really more repulsive than funny. The bad thing about things like this is that I used to disagree with parents who didn't let their children watch the Simpsons - I no longer disagre with them. I would not have wanted my children (if I had any) to watch that scene.

Star Trek. In Living Color has done it. Saturday Night Live has done it. Mad magazine has done it. Local high school talent shows have done it. Now, the Simpsons have done it, and they didn't do it any better than anyone else. Should have left it alone, and come up with something original.

Homer being very familiar with Chief Justices. (BTW, the title is 'Chief Justice of the United States', not 'Chief Justice of the Supreme Court' - don't know if this error was intentional or not, it's not really important.) Once in a while, when Homer throws out something like that, it is funny. Yes, it is out of character for Homer to say anything too intellectual, but I admit one of my favorite Simpson's moment is when Homer is intervening in an argument between Lisa and the Albanian kid (Adil?) and he says something about 'the blood of the workers oiling the machinery of capitalism'. But that was just a one time thing. maybe it was something that Homer heard once, and it got stuck somewhere in his brain. But we know that this is an aberration, Homer is simply not a bright guy. I can't believe he is that familiar with the names of the Supreme court justices. (However, I did laugh at 'Warren Burger...Mmmmm....Burger...') It would have been more in character if Lisa had recited the names...

And I didn't like the bit about 40 years from now, although I don't really have an argument against it. I just didn't like it.

This episode was an appeal to the lowest common denominator. It exploited cliches instead of exposing them. It twisted character traits in order to go after laughs. It relied on gimmicks that got a laugh in the past. It became a parody of itself. I repeat, this was by far the worst episode ever. I hope it was an aberration - I don't think I have seen these trends in other recent episodes, so I am hopeful.

-JD

"Good Idea, Boss." - Homer Simpson http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1992Nov4.202847.1735%40oracle.us.oracle.com&output=gplain -- 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Yarn Spinner±

I nominate his name to be Comic Book Guy's name. He started a long and tiresome tradition.

Jesse Leon McCann, comic/children's book/ heck, anything writer-guy *What I'm working on RIGHT NOW: SIMPSONS EPISODE GUIDE VOL 3 (Seasons 11, 12) *Visit my cheezo-web page
±Yarn Spinner

Seconded.

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Nate in H-town±

He's wasted his life.

"�" wrote in message news:[email]...

tiresome

The Rack±

Drunk and full of pie, =?iso-8859-1?Q?=B1?= wrote:

Thirded... "John R. Donald".

"To thee name, I will give a D+. As for the workmanship on the font, I--"

Chadderack Look, dear... a couple of your native Antarcticans... ...inhabitants of the purest, loveliest, most unspoiled real estate in the
Dr Music±

"�" wrote in message news:[email]...

tiresome

And in the context of current seasons, "The Itchy & Scratchy Movie" episode is friggin' Citizen Kane.

Dr Music P.S. Parking was ample.

The RackDr Music

Drunk and full of pie, Dr Music wrote:

Starring Judge "friggin" Reinhold.

Chadderack : Today's guest is Mr. Roland. He's a painter. Can you say "painter"? : "Rhinoceros"
Dr MusicThe Rack

"The Rack" wrote in message news:[email]...

and

episode

I don't know who that is.

Dr Music P.S. Parking was ample.

The RackDr Music

Drunk and full of pie, Dr Music wrote:

"Dirty Rosewood"

Chadderack |_________|Surprising Facts|__________| | ------------------ | | Penguin evolution is a fib. |
ZedYarn Spinner

That guy thought that the episode "Itchy and Scratchy: The Movie" was the worst episode ever...

I wonder what he thinks about Season 11 episodes.........

Yarn SpinnerZed

Zoom!

Jesse Leon McCann, comic/children's book/ heck, anything writer-guy *What I'm working on RIGHT NOW: SIMPSONS EPISODE GUIDE VOL 3 (Seasons 11, 12) *Visit my cheezo-web page
Nim±

"�" wrote in message news:[email]...

Good catch :o

Do a search on deja.com for "worst episode ever," and read some of those threads...it's incredible how little has changed.

"The Simpsons is going downhill, it used to be sincere, well-written, and creative. Now it's just idiot Homer being crude, and everyone else is out of character." "Oh give em a break, how long can you keep going after 4 or 5 seasons, it's just a phase, they'll get back to the good old days."

...and so forth.

±Nim

I'd always had felt that ats had said this sort of crap since the beginning, now it's proven.

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The Rack±

Drunk and full of pie, =?iso-8859-1?Q?=B1?= wrote:

Now, your precious life's work can continue, Dean... running from the guys in white lab coats.

Chadderack Milo: Senator Jebsen! Hello! How'd you like the story? Jebsen: I DIDN'T.
±The Rack

By eliminating covalence inhibitors, we create triple-dense carbohydrates, and thus the so-called 'superdonut!'

Many of you mocked my interest in the pastry sciences....

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The Rack±

Drunk and full of pie, =?iso-8859-1?Q?=B1?= wrote:

What do YOU have inside?

Chadderack June: Ward, the Beaver blew up the Dairy Queen, again. Ward: I'll have a talk with him, dear.
KatijaikatThe Rack

Guts. Black stuff. And about fifty Slim Jims.

±The Rack

Pie.

Lots and lots of pie.

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The Rack±

Drunk and full of pie, =?iso-8859-1?Q?=B1?= wrote:

Oh, thank GOD!

Chadderack June: Ward, the Beaver blew up the Dairy Queen, again. Ward: I'll have a talk with him, dear.
±The Rack

If you're gonna talk about pie, you best have some - where's mine?

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The Rack±

Windowsill. [swallow gulp]

Chadderack |_________|Surprising Facts|__________| | ------------------ | | Penguin evolution is a fib. |
±The Rack

The Five Degrees of the Twill Pie/Suicide Spiral of Shame:

  • You want to die.
  • You consider suicide.
  • But first some pie.
  • Then you die.
  • Time for more pie.
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±Nim

Just proves that nothing really ever changes.

And why I don't like whiners.

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Internet King±
� wrote:

This guy should get royalty checks from CBG. Sincerely, Little Girl

±Internet King

Worst "worst episode ever".

It's fitting that it's the first.

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Katijaikat±

I'll let you go when the check clears.

The Rack±

Drunk and full of pie, =?iso-8859-1?Q?=B1?= wrote:

Right. [9F03] The Itchy & Scratchy Movie RULED.

Chadderack I want apple pie, and you give me twinkies with Hollandaise sauce! www.snpp.com/episodes/scg.html
±The Rack

It was an outrageous paradigm.

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Nim±

"�" wrote in message news:[email]...

Indeed, it got very bizz-ay, and was extremely in my face.

Yarn SpinnerNim

I regret nothing!

Jesse Leon McCann, comic/children's book/ heck, anything writer-guy *What I'm working on RIGHT NOW: SIMPSONS EPISODE GUIDE VOL 3 (Seasons 11, 12) *Visit my cheezo-web page
The RackNim

Drunk and full of pie, Nim wrote:

Excuse me. Isn't "paradigm" just a word dumb people use to sound smart? I'm fired, aren't I?

Chadderack Director: Okay... on the downbeat, you'll jump forward, waggle your tongue and lick the camera lens...
±The Rack

Would it kill you to put some fennel in the focaccia bread?

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Dr Music±

"�" wrote in message news:[email]...

I'm about ready to ankle this family!

Dr Music P.S. Parking was ample.

±Dr Music

Can you open a movie if your life depended on it?

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The Rack±

If there were ever someone drunk and full of pie, 'twas "John R. Donald" when he wrote:

Okay... now, he's gotta prove it.

Wait a minute... _who's_ doing _what_? It was Bart doing the "abuse", if that's what he wants to call it. One kid beating up on another kid does NOT qualify as child abuse.

A side note: Homer strangling Bart is referred to, tongue-in-cheek, as "child abuse". Still, it's a satiric exaggeration of something that happens in normal families. What's funny isn't the actual "violence"... it's that dads may actually feel like doing that sometimes.

It's more about the trauma than child abuse. The joke was that Bart's action caused trauma--to the point that the kid couldn't talk. If this guy wanted to rant and rave about child abuse, he was totally off-base.

What a nit picker. Bart dropping his pants is just part of his character. The joke was that he wanted a spanking. "Come on, go nuts."

Why does this guy ascribe such noble tendencies to Homer, as if spanking was something only ogres do? It's perfectly within Homer's character to do so.

It was Marge's mortified imagination. It was the worst-case scenario. It made Marge decide to do something about Bart.

Just an opinion.

How original is this: "There is nothing new under the sun". IIRC, that's from Proverbs, old Testament.

Jeezus. He's a hair-splitter's hair-splitter.

When Homer's properly motivated, his brain will provide him with all he needs. Homer's characterization isn't so much "stupid" as it is "lazy brained."

This guy had a bowel blockage, or something else to put him in a foul mood that night.

Wow. Where have we heard that before?

For instance:

Didn't see that at all. Bart's mischievousness finally caught up with him. There's a moral there. Homer and Marge cared about Bart, and Bart displays some grudging care for Homer in the flash-forward.

If he'd have known just how long his post would last...

Props to Alan J. Rosenthal (who still frequents this group? Or, does he?) for saying nine years ago what we're all thinking.

Chadderack June: Ward, the Beaver blew up the Dairy Queen, again. Ward: I'll have a talk with him, dear.
±The Rack

Don't expect a reply from him.

I think that John R. Donald came back to troll a.t.s. as Ondre Lombard.

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The Rack±

Drunk and full of pie, =?iso-8859-1?Q?=B1?= wrote:

Which would mean he was about 12 years old at the time. Isn't Ondre about 20 years old? He was a young-un.

Chadderack Look, dear... a couple of your native Antarcticans... ...inhabitants of the purest, loveliest, most unspoiled real estate in the
±The Rack

Trouble makers start early, I find.

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The Rack±

Drunk and full of pie, =?iso-8859-1?Q?=B1?= wrote:

Which explains why you want to re-marry, and have kids

;)
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Greg BairThe Rack

You have sunk to a new low. You have that much time on your hands to argue with a 9-year old post?

Greg Bair Say no to utility deregulation!
The RackGreg Bair

Drunk and full of pie, Greg Bair wrote:

Uh... it's my first day!

Chadderack You're not cut from vice-presidential timber! You're a goof! Know your limitations! Take an honest look at yourself! That's right. Look
The RackGreg Bair

Drunk and full of pie, Greg Bair wrote:

Actually, I've been home with bronchitis for the past three days... I'm so lonesome. Maybe I should talk to my new best friend EARL. Oh, Earl... where are you?

Chadderack Look, dear... a couple of your native Antarcticans... ...inhabitants of the purest, loveliest, most unspoiled real estate in the