7F19 "Lisa´s Substitute" [Review]

S02E19 Lisa's SubstituteretroJul 6, 2002, 7:51 AM ET11 years later16 posts by 9 posters
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Chris Pfeiler

I decided to write a new review about one of my favorite episodes, namely 7F19 "Lisa�s Substitute". Although the review is again pretty long, it covers IMO only some parts of the true conceptual range of main- and subplot. The complexity is again too high.

It wasn�t easy to translate, I hope (as usual) everything�s understandable.

The capsule to 7F19 begins with the words "I laughed, I cried, it became a part of me" - a line that already shows the immense emotional power of the episode.

Already the Bart-subplot contains some remarkable satirical and ironical elements, for example the sex poster (as I already said in another post), the brilliant parody ("Simpson Defeats Prince) of the wrong headline that Dewey beat Truman in the 1948 presidential election, Martin who bad-mouthes Ray Bradbury, both Martin and Bart use the same slogan "A Vote for Bart is a Vote for Anarchy" to attract voters (brilliant idea), the satire about voters behaviour, the re-count etc. - all these are hints that there�s a very complex satire below the surface of the story.

The social implications about voters behaviour and about the serious fact, that elections could be won by unexpected groups if people don�t vote or too less people vote (everyone cheered for Bart but nobody voted, so Martin won) are clearly thought-provoking material for further discussion but I�ll concentrate the review on the Lisa-Plot. As we�ll see, the Bart-Plot is an essential part of the entire story, at least on a more conceptual level.

The episode is basically a sequel to 7G06 "Moaning Lisa" from S1 and has (as I have to admit) more class and depth than its too direct season-1-counterpart. We see again the old concept that Lisa tries to find a person she can intellectually (and emotionally) relate to. At first sight, the episode is about a simple childish crush for a teacher (as seen in various other series/sitcoms) but at second sight it goes IMO way deeper. Lisa is searching for a substitute *father*, a person she could relate to, a person who is equal to her, a person who could help her to "escape" from the suppression of her creativity. In S1 and 7G06, BGM was that person (for her musical creativity) and in 7F19 it�s Mr. Bergstrom (for her intellectual and emotional creativity.)

It�s always difficult to define the term, but that�s true character depth. The episode isn�t really about a simple crush (that�s just the surface story) but about Lisa�s old childhood angst, the fear of being alone in a world without person she can relate to. We�ve already seen in 7G06 that Homer and Lisa don�t communicate on the same level (when Lisa tried to tell him about her angst, Homer was only able to reply with "Ride the Homey horsey". He tried to understand, but he couldn�t <= important. See my 7G06 review for more) and that conflict is continued in 7F19 on a more complex level.

Lisa tries to be equal to Mr. Bergstrom, she tries to change him, she tries to change her and thus she also tries to leave her old life behind her - and that�s the final tragic element of the episode. Lisa tries to distance herself more and more from the family during the episode, she sees her "luck" on another place (why should she be Lisa Simpson with "bad" father Homer if she can be Lisa Bergstrom with a real person she can relate to.) That�s pretty clear in a couple of scenes, for example when she and Marge fold the laundry and Lisa argues, that her "love" and empathy for Mr. Bergstrom is much different (and also better) than Marge�s love for Homer. Marge reacts of course angry.

Lisa also tries to distance herself from Bart and from his run for class president and comments one of his more tasteless actions with "You'll never go broke appealing to the lowest common denominator" (a line that describes the style of many episodes in new seasons.) Mr. Bergstrom notices that Lisa is on a wrong way of denying her roots and he says to her that she�ll miss Bart one day, when she will be on other and better places. The scene is very important - another person (namely her "bad father" Homer) will later use almost the same words as her over-father Mr. Bergstrom. A brilliant emotional complexity.

At the end, Lisa loses Mr. Bergstrom (a foretaste of the conceptual similar loss of BGM) and during the excellent scene at the train station, she has to understand that she has choosen the wrong father. Mr. Bergstrom even reveals himself to her in a form he wouldn�t show to another child - he reveals himself as a fraud, a person that has to be sometimes here and sometimes there and that has to take on the form and "character" that is needed. "That's the problem with being middle-class. Anybody who really cares will abandon you for those who need it more."

The train-station-scene is maybe the deepest emotional moment of the entire show (what a difference to the stupid and superficial nonsense of recent seasons.) I guess a lot of people haven�t even tried to understand what the note Mr. Bergstrom gave to Lisa meant The note gave IMO Lisa back what she thought she had lost - her own identity. She is not alone. She isn�t Lisa Bergstrom, who has to live now without a person she can relate to. She has a family. She has a person she can relate to, a person she had refused to believe in. You are Lisa Simpson.

However, Lisa doesn�t understand the message of the note yet and her fear of being alone transforms into sadness and anger and there�s only one person that anger can be focussed on. You may notice that her emotional outburst takes place at the dinner table, when Marge points to Homer and says to Lisa "Tell your father". That leads to the famous "Baboon" scene, but all her anger is so empty and fleeting that the sadness immediately breaks through and she runs off in tears.

The following talk between Homer and his daughter repeats parts of the concepts Mr. Bergstrom has tried to show to Lisa (he understood her tragedy) and in the very same way Mr. Bergstrom revealed himself as a fraud to Lisa at the train station, Homer reveals himself now as her father and "Monkey Man" who isn�t intellectually equal to her, but who will always be there for her in his own emotional way (unfortunately, the character destruction of recent seasons has destroyed that concept.) It�s not really clear why Lisa decides to forgive Homer, maybe it was because of the similarity between what he said and what Mr. Bergstrom said. Maybe she finally understood the meaning of the note.

Mr. Sam Etic, the voice of Mr. Bergstrom, was of course Dustin Hoffman, the episode refers partly to "The Graduate", for example in the scene when Edna tries to seduce Mr. Bergstrom and we see a camera angle through her legs. The final scene of the episode (Homer talks to Marge) is recycled in episode 8F03 "Bart The Murderer".

The bad news - there are some 93 seconds cut in syndication, over 1 1/2 minutes of partly essential scenes are completely missing. That�s very bad, it makes the episode IMO almost unwatchable and clearly reduces the quality. I strongly recommend a full version, the DVD will solve that problem.

What else can I say about 7F19? It�s IMO a masterpiece of character depth and plot design and the complete antithesis of the empty and "freakin� funny" mainstream of these days. It�s still fascinating how much empathy and identification with the characters and how much content and depth can be found in just 20 minutes (a lot of big budget animated movies with their perfect animation seem IMO pretty weak in comparison to that.)

7F19 is the kind of episode that is able to stir a wider range of emotions (much different from simple fun) and to send shivers down your spine and also the kind of episode that can make you even more angry if you see the degradation of todays show. And whoever thinks it�s crazy and laughable to say such things about a "crudely drawn" nonsense cartoon, allright, you�re free to think that. 7F19 is one of the best episodes ever (IMO) and of course grade A+.

Let me finish with the first line of the capsule ""I laughed, I cried, it became a part of me." And that�s it.

Comments are as usual welcome.

Chris

P.S. There�s an interesting comment by Paul Kornreich about the episode in the SNPP capsule. I recommend the comment, it shows some further thoughts I haven�t mentioned.

P.P.S. Comments would be really welcome, no comments make me always think nobody cares.

Chris PfeilerChris Pfeiler

I wrote:

[pretty long 7F19 review]

No replies at all to my 7F19 review? Now that�s not very encouraging, it was a lot of work. Oldschoolers, where are you?

Well, let me say something additional: there are some interesting conceptual similarities between 7F19 and 3F22 "Summer of 4 Ft 2". Both episodes deal with Lisa who tries to find another person/group she can relate to, both episodes also deal with self-denial and with a final positive solution when she accepts who she is (and also is accepted by others for who she is.)

The "Lisa rules" message on the car in 3F22 is in a certain way quite similar to the "You are Lisa Simpson" note in 7F19. There are some clear differences between the episodes, but parts of the basic concept are almost identical (another episode with a similar concept is "Separate Vocations" from season 3.)

That�s maybe the main problem of the ending of "Little Girl in the Big Ten". In classic years, the solution to Lisa�s (and other characters) problems was often a kind of self-finding, a positive realization of who she is. In "Little Girl in the Big Ten" she tries to correct one self-denial with just another self-denial and that�s maybe the fault of an otherwise pretty fine episode (by my favorite writer Jon Vitti who also wrote the timeless 7F19.) "Big Ten" is a good episode but once again season 2 was so much better and more complex.

Any comments to that? (I doubt it.)

Chris

fishyChris Pfeiler

7F19 is one of my favourite episodes as well, however it has been so long since I have seen the episode, and even longer since I have seen it uncut. Perhaps that is one of the reasons there have been no responses... more than a decade old, this episode is hard to come by except on DVD.

I think that this episode came out at the peak of the strange period when The Simpsons had a reputation for being crude and of questionable morals... I recall that at least two articles I read at the time said that it was impossible to watch this episode and not change your mind about the Simpsons.

However people want to compare recent seasons to early seasons, I don't think that anyone can claim that character development is the same now. Lisa went from a 2-dimensional being to the most defined character in the series in those first couple of seasons. While I think that Lisa continues to develop, the changes seem more superficial. (eg: she converts to Buddhism, yet her world outlook seems unchanged... she doesn't even really seem to get into the very basics of that faith. She ends up paying "lip service" to both faiths...)

I suppose that part of the problem is that self-discovery and gaining understanding of the world are central to Lisa's character... yet how far can writers take this with an eight year old girl after 13 years? Moreover, they want to maintain continuity. This puts the writers in a terrible bind: they can't change Lisa, but they can't really leave her the same.

Season Ten's "Make Room for Lisa" (AABF12) looks at Lisa's relationship with her father, covering some of the same ground... but omitting much of the self-discovery that 7F19 featured. This makes sense to me, as the conflict between Homer and Lisa is something that can be raised and resolved infinitely without ringing false. (think of all the family sitcoms that had multiple episodes on sibling rivalry... okay, too large a number to count...) However, you can't have an episode like Moaning Lisa or Lisa's Substitute every season... I mean, how many times can Lisa discover a creative outlet in the blues? Once, really.

That isn't to say that there aren't plots that the writers could explore... but we have to acknowledge the handicap that freezing Lisa at eight places on the series. Lisa as an eight year old already stretches credibility wildly.

This might sound crazy, but as someone who identifies closely with Lisa, I find it frustrating to have her trapped in a sort of stasis. It is sort of like re-reading The Catcher in the Rye ten years on, and finding that Holden is the same as always... you can't feel the same about him.

Mind you, I am not petitioning for them to age the Simpsons, or anything like that. I am not sure that it /could/ be done, nevermind /if/ it should be done. Note, however, that in the episode you mention, Lisa makes friends with college students, in Lisa the Tree Hugger she meets up with a group of college-aged activists... all attempts to push the boundaries of her age.

fishy: Sig-free since 1996!
Jake LenningtonChris Pfeiler

[email] (Chris Pfeiler) wrote in message news:...

I wouldn't blame J.V. too much. There are more writers currently who have a hand in things these days compared to 1991, so what Jon wanted might've been more diluted.

Sarge, a guy who I used to know and was a former character layout artist said: "There's more writers these days and the scripts don't take on the original writer's personality as much as they used to."

Jake

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Chris Pfeiler wrote in message news:[email]...

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I read it when you first posted it. I thought it was a very insightful review. You have an anthropologist's approach.

I do remember the episode and I think you presented your views and ideas well. This is why you may not have gotten any response, good or bad. Although, getting some positive responses would have, at least, been good for the ego.

I promise to read any other of your reviews and give my comments in a more timely manner.

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Peter SmythChris Pfeiler

"Chris Pfeiler" wrote in message news:[email]...

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Hi, I'm new to the ng. Could you repost your review please - I'd love to read it. I've just bought the Season Two DVD and I have to agree with your analysis - the early years were by far the best. The last 'new' episode I watched was a clipshow of the Simpsons musical numbers (about two years ago). Ugh - I haven't seen a new episode since then. A pretty interesting website (I imagine it has been discussed here before) is www.jumptheshark.com which discusses where TV shows went bad - I offered the Australia episode as my opinion.

Ciao Peter

"The Right Hon. was a tubby little chap who looked as if he had been poured into his clothes and had forgotten to say 'When!'" Bertie Wooster, 'Very Good, Jeeves'
David GaudinePeter Smyth

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I didn't look it up, but it seems to me that it's a lot more than two years ago. I watched that episode this week, in French. I find it interesting to see how they translate things. I don't remember much now. I remember that "when a long running series does a cheezy clip show" (or something like that) became "... a bad show like this." Sometimes the translation works, sometimes it doesn't. Wow, I've wandered a long way from the subject line.

Peter SmythChris Pfeiler

Ah - your post has turned up on my server, Chris. I see now why you haven't recieved many replies - it's so comprehensive. It seems like there's nothing to add - However, I'll try. I've just seen the DVD (with commentary), so I may be able to add something.

"Chris Pfeiler" wrote in message news:[email]...

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I am becoming more and more convinced (from listening to the DVD commentaries) that Jim Brooks was the real genius behind the Simpsons. On the DVD commentary, Jon Vitti says that 7F19 contains the most conributions to a single episode by Brooks. It's a shame he didn't write full time! Also, Mike Reiss claims that this is his favourite episode.

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The greatness of the early episodes: 'Bart runs for class president' would be the A-Story for most TV shows; on the Simpsons, it's a B-Story - the B-story doesn't weaken 7F14 (as it does with many episodes); it strengthens it.

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The wordplay on 'Substitute' is very clever, IMO. Mr Bergstrom is Lisa's soulmate. Fortunately, at this stage in the show, Lisa wasn't the genius-vegetarian-buddhist-etc. she became. SHE'S EIGHT YEARS OLD! The mixing up of a substitute father/intellectual soulmate/childish crush was absolutely brilliant. The contrast of 7G06 and 7F19 is a perfect example of the leaps and bounds made during Season 2.

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An interesting note about Mr Bergstrom's 'chameleon' qualities: Jon Vitti says that he decided after this episode to "never introduce a guest character 'off-character' again" - but I felt that was an important part of the plot. Lisa never *really* knows who Mr. Bergstrom is; her love for him is more about herself than him.

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Vitti, Reiss and Groening explain that they were very nervous about asking Hoffman to play that scene because such self-parody was extremely uncommon at the time, but that he found it very funny. Reiss also tells the anecdote that Hoffman had forgotten 'the reading' ("You're trying to seduce me") from the graduate. "Dustin Hoffman didn't know how to play Dustin Hoffman, so Sam Simon had to coach him".

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Agreed - a masterpiece (as with almost all of Season 2) "Today's shows"? Don't even talk to me about today's shows!

Ciao Peter

"The Right Hon. was a tubby little chap who looked as if he had been poured into his clothes and had forgotten to say 'When!'" Bertie Wooster, 'Very Good, Jeeves'
Paul HyettPeter Smyth

On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, an infinite number of monkeys, masquerading as Peter Smyth typed this -

How do you actually get to the DVD commentaries anyway? The blurb says there are commentaries on all 22 episodes, but I cannot see a menu option to access them.

Also - what's with the 'spinning heads' menu sequence? It serves no purpose other than to annoy people trying to get to the episode list.

Paul 'US Sitcom Fan' Hyett - The Wild Frame Grabber of the Net! Website at http://www.activist.demon.co.uk/USsitcoms/
Peter SmythPaul Hyett

"Paul Hyett" wrote in message news:[email]...

If you select the menu "Language Selection", there is an option for "Audio Commentary". Also, there should be an 'audio' or 'language' button on your DVD remote control (which I find to be more convenient).

When I first played the DVD - I thought it was a bug! It's a clever idea which ties in well with the packaging - but it's bloody annoying after a while. A lot of DVDs tend to do stuff like this now; the 'Memento' DVD (ace film, BTW) has a weird 'spinning polaroid' menu screen, you have to hit 'select' at exactly the right moment or you access the wrong feature. I hope the future Simpsons DVDs have simpler menu screens - I can't wait for Season 3.

Ciao Peter

"It was as if Nature had intended to make a gorilla, and had changed its mind at the last moment." Bertie Wooster, 'The Code of the Woosters'
George PattersonPaul Hyett

Paul Hyett wrote in message news:...

See where it says Commentary On/Off or something to that effect right under the episode's title? By default, the donut pointer appears on the right, meaning the commentary is off. Press left so it will point to "on" and only then press select to play the episode. I agree it's not very intuitive, and I can't see why they changed it from season 1.

Ugh. I posted a new thread about this before I saw your message. It's getting on my nerves too - not funny, not clever, not even remotely entertaining.

Paul HyettGeorge Patterson

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, an infinite number of monkeys, masquerading as George Patterson typed this -

No.

There's no donut pointer - I have a speech-bubble shaped selector.

OK, found it now - it's under the language selection option.

I'll check it out.

Paul 'US Sitcom Fan' Hyett - The Wild Frame Grabber of the Net! Website at http://www.activist.demon.co.uk/USsitcoms/
George PattersonPaul Hyett

Paul Hyett wrote in message news:...

You're absolutely right - my description is only true for the American Music Awards bonus video. Sorry.

Chris PfeilerPeter Smyth

Peter Smyth wrote:

[Comment to my 7F19 review]

Thanks for your interesting comment (and for all the other comments as well.) It�s always encouraging to see that at least some people care about older episodes, content, meaning, true satire and depth in the show.

Season 2 rules. I hope the DVD will show that to as many people as possible and remind the long-time-fans why they started to love the show so many years ago (namely for its truly unique greatness and difference and not for loud slapstick and incoherent and superficial plotlines as in so many modern episodes.)

But I�m rambling...Thanks for the comments.

There seem to be some new people here in the group who maybe don�t know my website so here�s the URL again:

http://members.aol.com/Chris84792/simp.htm

You can read nearly all of my previous texts and reviews there.

Chris

Peter SmythChris Pfeiler

"Chris Pfeiler" wrote in message news:[email]...

Thanks. I've added it to my favourites.

Ciao Peter

"It was as if Nature had intended to make a gorilla, and had changed its mind at the last moment." Bertie Wooster, 'The Code of the Woosters'
KatijaikatPeter Smyth

He talks about it at (relative) length in his lecture appearances at universities. He mentioned that he had suggested that something be physically wrong with Mr. Bergstrom, like one of Reiss' own favorite teachers- a missing leg, or a facial tic. And that, he concludes, is how it ended up that Mr. Bergstrom was designed to look exactly like Mike Reiss.