CAPSURE SUBMISSION: Bart vs. Lisa vs. the Third Grade (DABF20)

Nov 17, 2002, 8:49 PM ET24 posts by 22 posters
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Stephen

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preview from snpp.com: 8:00 . Bart vs. Lisa vs. the Third Grade (DABF20) Bart and Lisa end up in the same class when Lisa is moved up a grade while Bart is sent down one

Preview from tvguide.com Bart vs. Lisa vs. 3rd Grade 30 min. Lisa's high score on an achievement test gets her promoted to the third grade, the same class as Bart when he's demoted for his low score. Yeardley Smith, Nancy Cartwright, Julie Kavner. (VCR Plus+ 3543)

Simpsons State Flag-As a resident of Atlanta, which happens to lie in Georgia the last time I checked, I know all about the state flag issue. Shortly after the Brown Vs. Board of Education supreme court ruling that separate but equal was unconstitutional, Georgia senators decided to change the banner in our flag from red and white stripes (which happens to be a lesser known confederate relic) to a more in your face "Stars and Bars" field in that area (one can only assume as to why they would want to do such a thing). Early last year, then governor Barnes quickly changed the state flag to a strange cavalcade of all the old state flags, with the government state seal in the center. Most people referred to this as the Six Flags flag, in its utter tackiness. While tacky, it at least showed that in the 21st century our state can be sensitive to the racial sensitivities of a large group of our state. Shortly after the flag flap, as it was called locally, if one were to venture outside of metro Atlanta one would see the old state flag placed prominently on cars and by people's houses. In the election of November, 2002, Republican Sunny Purdue beat Barnes due to several issues, the flag being the symbol to many natives that Barnes is not in touch with the southern heritage of many Georgians. It was obvious that the flag was central to Purdue's campaign as it seemed to follow him around at all of his election rallies. Most recently, it was waived at his victory speech where he ironically read from the Martin Luther King "Free at Last" speech. This may not be over yet.

References: Get Smart-Couch Gag

Coupling/all foreign Friends knock-offs- do they actually have a Japanese version of the show? If so, I would like to see it.

Futurama-While the robot looked like Bender, it certainly did not look exactly like him or move like him. Still, good to see a reference to the show.

Rappers Delight-The first few lines of the cross walk song seemed to mimic that Sugar Hill Gang song

C-Span- School Span TV channel

Episode Mistakes/Goofs: Those TV antennas do not move, but are just placed in an unobstructed north facing direction. Why do the writers have to keep on making simbient robots in this show? Is it funny to anyone?

Old Simpsons Episode References: [7F05] Dancin' Homer-Capitol City Song [7F01] Two Cars in Every Garage and Three Eyes on Every Fish- Governor Bailey

Notice: when these first episodes aired, they were played right next to each other. Just thought someone would care.

REVIEW: That was a really well written episode. It was funny. Not Meh funny but actually Ha Ha funny. The story was a little contrived (Lisa on Ice, anyone), but the competition between the siblings was not played out too laboriously, but instead was just a premise for the rest of the episode. It was cute and sweet and most importantly, funny. Grade: A (A+ by post season 9 standards)

slatconsultingStephen

You are completely out of your mind. Easily one of the worst episodes in years.

Writer #1: Hey, let's do an episode where Lisa and Bart realise they care for each other.

Writer #2: Sounds good, even though we've done it a thousand times. But just for good measure, let's throw in some hillbillies, a totally unfunny new teacher, Milhouse doing a bad Bart impersonation, a stupid bus fight, not nearly enough Homer, and a totally contrived ending where Lisa and Bart go back to their respective grades. Did I miss anything?

Exatronslatconsulting

slatconsulting wrote:

What have you been smoking? It's easily one of the better episodes of the past several seasons. The wackiness was confined to a character's hallucinations, the plot was coherent, all three acts seemed like one episode rather than three shorts, there was only one joke that relied on gross humor, and we we got meaningful interaction between members of the Simpson family.

They haven't done very many episodes revolving around Bart and Lisa realizing that they care for each other. Sure, some episodes touch upon it, but someting else is usually the point of the story.

They've done everything a thousand times.

So, that whooshing sound I heard must have been the joke going over your head. Millhouse was supposed to be doing a bad impersonation of Bart.

The Simpsons doesn't revolve around Homer. It was refreshing to have him play such a minimal role in an episode.

The ending was far from contrived. Bart didn't really belong in the third grade and Lisa wanted to go back to where she could feel like an overachiever again.

A lot of things actually. I suggest you go and actually watch the episode. It certainly wasn't the best, but it easily beats episodes like "Simpson Safari" and "Kill the Alligator and Run."

Exatron "The past is the greatest teacher." - Kup The important thing is not to stop questioning. - Albert Einstein
stoopsExatron

"Exatron" wrote about:

now, i like my opponent, i think he's a good man, but quite frankly, is agree with everything this man just said!

(ok, so it's not from the simpsons. close enough. it still applies.)

Ted S.Exatron

Somebody claiming to be Exatron wrote in news:[email]:

I disagree with you here. I don't think Lisa would want to go back to being an overachiever (or to use her/Skinner's words, the "big fish"). If she were given a choice, she'd like to go someplace intellectually stimulating. For me, this was one of the biggest problems with the episode.

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ZedTed S.

She was looking for something more challenging in "The Secret War of Lisa Simpson" and she went through with it. She liked her short time in college last year...

Z [email]
NRobin1027Ted S.

In article , "Ted S." writes:

I agree with this. It is obvious that Lisa went back to second grade because she realized that she wasn't the big wheel in the third grade grass. She was just average in that classrom. As for Bart, he was the best student, he was only cause he'd done the work before. What I couldn't see was Bart and Lisa being put in the same classroom with the same teacher.

JMHO, Robin:) NRobin1027

ExatronNRobin1027

NRobin1027 wrote:

Exactly. Look at how she responded to getting an A-. One of her character flaws has always been a need to feel better than others.

It's quite reasonable for Bart and Lisa to be in the same class if Springfield Elementary only has one third grade.

Exatron "The thrill is in the Journey." - Topspin The important thing is not to stop questioning. - Albert Einstein
Chris BootonNRobin1027

She got an A- , which in their systems seems to be a marks in the low 90's. I hardly call that averge, more like excellent.

UniblabTed S.

"Ted S." wrote in message news:[email]...

But more important than Lisa's desires is the maintenance of the status quo! Status quo trumps everything! (Except when it comes to Maude Flanders dying, or the Van Houten's getting divorced, of course.)

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VoVatUniblab

"Uniblab" wrote in message news:3dd87dd3$[email]...

quo!

dying,

I actually thought Milhouse was going to make some reference his parents' divorce after the status quo comments, rather than just doing a bad Bart impression.

Nathan

Scott MunroMichael

On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 15:51:03 -0500 (EST), [email] (Michael) wrote:

*You're* a cartoon.

Scott Munro
Markc65David Gaudine

Yes, but you must go through a very painful process in order to become one.

YamaScott Munro

Scott Munro wrote:

You took what that guy said and made into an insult! I'm telling!

Cromulant84slatconsulting

Hmmm, I didn't think it was a particularly good OR bad episode, it was just "meh."

VoVatStephen

"Stephen" wrote in message news:yGXB9.34896$%[email]...

I believe "Bart vs. Lisa vs. the Third Grade" was actually the first episode to clearly establish that Capital City is the state capital for Springfield's state.

Nathan

Ryan W. MeadStephen

"Stephen" wrote in message news:...

Actually, although the Confederate flag we're all familiar with is often called the "Stars and Bars," the Stars and Bars are actually the first flag you mention-almost a lite version of the U.S. flag with seven stars and three bars, the first flag of the Confederate States. (The one we're all familar with has stars, but not bars.)

No, although there was a plan to create a Friends-type show for China called "Joyful Youth," and I think NBC was to produce it. I am unsure if this references that.

Steve MindykowskiStephen

Stephen wrote:

Actually, in the northern hempsphere, they are generally places towards the south. Not necessarily due south -- it depends on the satellite's location. In the southern hemisphere, they're placed towards the north, and close to the equator, they are usually straight up, or turned towards the east or west.

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