Upcoming Episodes, DVD news, plus STUFF for "There's Something About Marrying"

S16E10 There's Something About MarryingliveFeb 21, 2005, 12:02 AM ET4 hours after the credits18 posts by 10 posters
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Don Del Grande

2/27 - PRE-EMPTED for the Academy Awards, which are on ABC, so Fox pulls out, for the seventh time on a Sunday, "Independence Day"

3/6 - DOUBLE FEATURE -------------------- 8:00 - On a Clear Day I Can't See My Sister (GABF05) Lisa gets a restraining order against Bart (more details when I find out) 9:30 - Homer and Ned's Hail Mary Pass (GABF02) When Homer does a victory dance over Bart at a carnival, an NFL player pays him to choreograph his end zone celebrations, leading to other athletes (Tom Brady, LeBron James, Michelle Kwan, Warren Sapp, Yao Ming) hiring Homer as well, and eventually resulting in Homer being asked to choreograph the Super Bowl halftime show - but when Homer can't come up with any ideas, he goes to Ned for help

DVD NEWS Bad news: according to tvshowsondvd.com, the report that Fox would release Season 6 in June was a mistake, but it would be released "later in the year". Good news: "The Simpsons: Bart Wars" DVD will be released in North America on May 17 (just before "Star Wars Episode III" premieres), with Mayored to the Mob, Dog of Death, The Secret War of Lisa Simpson, Marge Be Not Proud, and a special "The Making of Bart Wars: The Simpsons Strike Back" featurette. (I think this DVD has been available in Europe for a while.)

STUFF for "There's Something About Marrying" (GABF04)
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Written by J. Stewart Burns
Directed by Nancy Kruse
Blackboard: none
Couch: everybody is dressed as ice hockey players and skate on the
       ice around the couch; Homer carries the Stanley Cup (with
       Maggie inside it)
Special Guest Voice: Marcia Wallace
Also Starring: Pamela Hayden, Tress MacNeille, Russi Taylor,
               Karl Wiedergott
Overseas Animation: Akom
TV Rating: TV-14-DLV
Disclaimer: THIS EPISODE CONTAINS DISCUSSIONS OF SAME SEX MARRIAGE.
            PARENTAL DISCRETION IS ADVISED.
REVIEW: C-plus - it started out slow with the Bart and Milhouse bit,
        but I figured that the main storyline would make up for it,
        considering how much it was hyped.  Boy, was I wrong.  The
        only thing that surprised me about this episode was that the
        marriages Homer performed weren't all declared void in the end
        for some reason (for example, Homer misspelled his name on the
        online application).  The ending was flat as well; sometimes
        "walking off together" works ("Lisa's Pony", for example, but
        that was because of Apu's last line), but this time it didn't.
        And why do I have this feeling that Patty's lesbianism is
        going to be mentioned about as much as Maggie's shooting
        ability?

REFERENCES "There's Something About Mary" (title) Road Runner cartoons (reference by Barney) "Winnie the Pooh" (Homer's map had a "Hunny Tree") 5F04 (Selma's three previous marriages, including one to Lionel Hutz, mentioned) SELF-REFERENCE Homer held his map "up to the camera", then asked the viewers if they had seen all the names.

DYNs
...the episode was rated TV-14 instead of the usual TV-PG?
...the "rube" tourist literally "fell off the turnip truck"?
...the Springfield banner's letters were in different colors (a
   reference to the "rainbow flag" representing homosexual support)?
...Selma's marriage to Lionel Hutz is referenced?  (She says she has
   been married four times; presumably to Sideshow Bob, Troy McClure,
   Lionel Hutz, and Disco Stu)
...Reverend Lovejoy doesn't know where the Bible considers
   homosexuality a bad thing?  (Leviticus 18:22: "Thou shalt not lie
   with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination" - also
   Leviticus 20:13: "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with
   a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall
   surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.")

GOOFS / FREEZE FRAME / WHATNOT Moe knows how to make a Cosmopolitan; he certainly should know what a Martini is.

In Patty's speech to Marge, the line "But you can't handle it when your sister finds love in her own locker room" appears to have been changed since it was first animated.

-- Don S1.1 MAG+++ LIS++ BAR+ SKI+ MrsK+ MissH+ P&S# FLA- (heresy!) f+++ n+++ Ilps(w) $+++ M43 Great timing with that Stanley Cup opening, too...

Michael BlackDon Del Grande

Don Del Grande ([email]) writes:

But who was paying attention to that? He said something about being able to sell Martinis to gay visitors for ten dollars each, implying it was a "gay drink". Then he wonders how to make a Martini, and Sideshow Mel tells him. Clearly the question wasn't a goof, it was a setup to imply Mel was gay. "Why else would he know what goes in a Martini"?

Michael

Aaron HirshbergMichael Black

C'mon, everyone who was ever been in, written, produced, directed, or been to a play is gay! The steel industry! The Teamsters! The aerospace industry! You need to watch OFF more and remember all the homosexual references!

Aaron Space Museum

*Ninja*Aaron Hirshberg

wrote in message news:[email]...

And ya know what else? Broadway.

Jim EllwangerDon Del Grande

In article , Don Del Grande wrote:

The Howell Heuser character is based on a Los Angeles-based television personality named Huell Howser, who does a handful of differently-named-but-ultimately-interchangeable documentary series in which he travels around California. As far as I know, these shows only air on the PBS stations in California.

Some info about him: http://www.calgold.com/about.asp

Jim Ellwanger <http://www.ellwanger.tv> welcomes you daily.
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Howell Heuser reminded me of that guy on CBS who randomly picks a spot in the nation, then randomly picks a person in the phone book to interview.

Steve BrownDon Del Grande

Though, as Marge mentioned, the real meaning of those is up for interpretation.

Captain InfinitySteve Brown

The Time Has Come, Steve Brown said To Talk Of Many Things...

Interpretation? Like what? They seem pretty clear to me. Not that I believe a word the bible says, but they seem pretty clear to me.

That guy Leviticus sure had some hang-ups, didn't he?

** Captain Infinity

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The literal translation of Lev 18:22 is up for grabs, and may not even be referring to homosexual sex, but instead sexual activities between two males in pagan ritual. Besides, it's in the Old Testament and appears to be a revoked cleanlines law. Lev 20:13 is worded similarly and likely refers to the same ritual.

Also, other scriptures used to justify homophobia include Matthew 15:19-20 ("For out of the heart come evil intentions, murder, adultery, fornication, theft, false witness, slander. These are what defile a person, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile."), Romans 1:26-27 ("For this reason God gave them up to degrading passions. Their women exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural, and in the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error.") and 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 ("Do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! Fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, sodomites, thieves, the greedy, drunkards, revilers, robbers - none of these will inherit the kingdom of God.").

Matt 15:19-20 says that sexual actions out of wedlock are condemned. However, this can't be used as an argument against gay marriage (the issue at hand) because it then becomes a catch-22. Rom 1:26-27 can be refuted by the argument that homosexuality is the natural sexual orientation of a gay person, and not a choice, so that they are not really degrading passions. 1 Cor 6:9-10 is rife with translation ambiguities. The word that was translated into "male prostitutes" would literally be translated from Greek as "softies" (a soft-hearted or sentimental person). And the word traslated as "sodomites", literally is just "bedsmen". So likely this scripture doesn't refer to homosexual practices at all.

*Ninja*Don Del Grande

"Don Del Grande" wrote in message news:[email]...

America likes Pre-empting don't they?

ROFLMAO - I'm sorry - that was a cheap shot :-D No malice intended - I don't wanna start a political flame here Just having a cheap laugh

Benjamin RobinsonDon Del Grande

In alt.tv.simpsons, on the "Upcoming Episodes, DVD news, plus STUFF for 'There's Something About Marrying'" thread, Don Del Grande asked:

On the other hand, Maggie's shooting ability has been mentioned more often that I thought it would be -- about three or four times. Besides, it's not like people are going to be walking up to Patty and asking, "So, how's that lesbian thing working out for you?"

It sure was!

Benjamin Robinson [email] This message may or may not contain sarcastic content; your burden to decide "I'm naked, clueless, and f-e-e-e-ling good!" -- Ratbert
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true, but it could be one of those things where Patty has a bunch of lesbian girlfriends/wives, kinda like her sister's proclivity towards straight marriage.

Don Del GrandeBenjamin Robinson

Benjamin Robinson wrote:

That's why I mentioned it. I can think of three off the top of my head; Smithers once said, "Maggie shot Mr. Burns again!"; in an episode where Mr. Burns needed Lisa's help, he called Maggie "the baby who shot me"; and in "Poppa's Got a Brand New Badge", Maggie shoots at Fat Tony and the other Legitimate Businessmen's Social Club members (and then hides the gun in her crib).

On the other hand, there is a reference to Lisa's vegetarianism in a large number of episodes, even if it is just the fact that everybody else has meat on their plate. I just have a feeling that they're going to go to the other extreme with Patty, and "let's (almost) never talk of this again", the way that it's hardly ever mentioned any more that Principal Skinner was once engaged to Mrs. Krabappel.

(Speaking of which, which voice did Marcia Wallace do in this episode? I don't remember Mrs. K being in it.)

-- Don
Matt GarveyDon Del Grande

Don Del Grande wrote:

Not to beat a dead horse, but three others that come to mind are the gun exchange in DABF19, a clip in DABF12, and (a little more obviously) Troy's introduction to the alternate scenes featured in 3F31.

Steve BrownDon Del Grande

Erm, it hasn't even been a whole season since, and there was already one reference to it (FABF12). Poor example.

Don Del GrandeSteve Brown

Steve Brown wrote:

Okay, here's a better example: Jub-Jub.

-- Don
*Ninja*Don Del Grande

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