EABF16/EABF17 capsubs

S14E21 The Bart of WarliveMay 19, 2003, 1:55 AM ET6 hours after the credits9 posts by 7 posters
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Matt Garvey

I enjoyed both of them very much - maybe it's partly related to the mood I'm in when I watch one, but both were packed with fun and had "any season" kind of plots, which is very nice...jolly good show!

EABF16, the Bart of War (I particularly liked the "hijinks" thing, and Wiggum's hyphenation speech - "Fiji" is (I think) the only other word in English with three dotted letters in a row; also, since I watched this from a tape and wasn't watching the counter I kind of thought it would be over soon after the VIP and Duff sign bits - but the actual end was good as well.)

DYN: ...both episodes tonight seemed quieter than usual? (Maybe it was local, but everything else was normal volume) ...Pamela Hayden didn't get a starring credit again? (She did in 4F04 and I think a few others - CABF08 maybe) ...Milhouse still looks a little wacked out near the end of act 1, when Wiggum is talking to them? ...for Ned, the Beatles' "bigger than Jesus" assertion is a pretty good reason to like them so much? ...the digital coloring is starting to look "correct" now? (sometimes it looks kind of odd) ...Homer has his license back now? (ah, the status quo) ...Kirk got up on the wrong side of the futon? (It seems like thus the only side to get off it is the bad side, which might explain his crummy bachelorhood...) ...Lisa only appears 3 times, and for about 1 line each? ...Apu calls Marge "Mrs. Bart" (cf. "Mrs. Homer")? ...unless Milhouse (I think it was him) was just being extra formal, Lenny's last name is Leonard? ...Mel has his bone out of his hair (first time?)?

Some previous episode references: 7F08: Flanders' "Bless our wonderful neighbors" reminded me of his note to Homer here 7F18, 9F21, 3F03, etc: Beatles featured 4F06: Peach tree mentioned (maybe that's what happened to Lisa's...) DABF02: Flanderses' panic room sort of like the bunker seen here 9F21: Beatles "bigger than Jesus" referenced CABF22: The boys need constant adult supervision 8F04: Marge blaming Milhouse for Bart's behavior (vs. Luann's blaming Bart for Milhouse's in that ep) 3G04: "the surprisingly hot Mrs. Simpson" (cf. "I think she's hot!") 7F01 and others: Tom Arnold still getting scoops CABF04: Lenny's dad died in "some war"/Lenny himself being a war hero

Other references: The Critic (LA Jay episode): The random Canada production reminded me very much of Jay's "Viva Jay Sherman, Viva Quebec" dream

Goofs: -There have been 103 episodes of South Park, actually, but whatever- they weren't 100% accurate in The Simpsons Already Did It anyway (how 9F10 is #204 I still can't figure)...

Meta-reference corner: -Bart/Milhouse talk about adults voicing kid characters on South Park, and of course the same is true on the Simpsons...

Comments: -a tautology is something that's always true, it's used mostly in a context of logic - as opposed to something like "it's raining today" which may be true or false - but I wonder if Marge considered sex changes when she classified "boys will be boys" as one - did you think of that, Marge?? -4H is some sort of club like Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, etc - I think it's farm-based or something but I could be wrong - anyway, all I really remember from what my mom mentioned once is that the 4 Hs stand for head, heart, hands (like doing stuff with them), and health - the 5th H doesn't quite fit in there, but it was a pretty good joke

EABF17, Moe Baby Blues (also good, though the ending with the extended Homer/ham gag got a little old...

DYN: ...Kang and Kodos sculptures in the botanical gardens? ...Lisa seems surprised to learn how the flytrap operates? ...the Simpsonmobile (the sedan) has a sunroof now? (How convenient...) ...this has been the first Maggiecentric episode since BABF02? ...unless I missed something very quick, they didn't actually mention Don Castellaneta by name? (Please point it out if they did...) (The old one looked like him, though, and the second one to speak sounded like his natural voice...)

Some previous episode references: CABF13: Homer beats a maneating flower 2F11: Deciding one person to kick out of a confined area 2F13: Didgeridoo mentioned and heard 4F11, BABF07, DABF02, etc: Moe close to suicide 8F05: Moe has "something in my eye" as setup for joke BABF17: "Got your nose" trick fools a Simpson 5F22, DABF06: Bumper cars (I'm in such a previous ep mood tonight!) 9F12, 2F07, BABF02, etc: Homer trying to be a father figure 1F21: Maggie turning one...again... BABF07: "I'm helping Daddy" recalls "I'm calling Daddy" (2F19, CABF08: Cornpopper) AABF01: "Nahasapasa..." 5F20: Homer's snake farm vs emu farm

Comments: -Grampa put his bedpan on his head and proclaimed himself "Speedy Alka-Seltzer," the actual animated mascot for the product way back when - he wore some sort of oversized hat as well - and now I'd like to thank that video of old commercials for clouding my brain...

Goofs: -"Year of the rat"? I thought it was the year of the sheep...

Meta-reference corner: -"Classic drunk Barney" in Moe's play set refers to pre-mid-season 11, before he sobered up (apparently I'm in the minority here, but I admire that Dan Castellaneta decided to make him that way...) - also it resembles the many themed Simpsons play sets too (mini versions of Springfield places, and sometimes oddly-shaped characters)

Promo wackiness: -When Maggie crawled away from the house in the promo (during EABF16, I believe, and more I guess) she kept going until she was off screen, but in the ep they cut after she got to the sidewalk - one of the shorter deleted "scenes"...

Markc65Matt Garvey

Speedy Alka-Seltzer wore a large Alka-Seltzer tablet on his head. His body was also made out of an Alka-Seltzer tablet, which means he would dissolve if dropped in a glass of water.

WyvernMatt Garvey

Was it Dan's idea? Bleh. Barney used to be one of the funniest charecters on the show-now he's just a background charecter who gets maybe one throwaway line every four episodes or so. Sorry, Dan, but Sober Barney is NOT funny-if you feel that sorry for him, save his drying up for the final episode or something. I'm still disapointed that his R-E-L-A-P-S-E (sock it to me! sock it to me! sock it to me!) from "I'm Spelling As Fast As I Can" didn't take.

-Wyvern

Poot RootbeerWyvern

Of course it was! Major revisions to the character bible are always pushed through by some guy who provides voice talent!

-Poot cf. Homer convincing I&S Studios to take Poochie in a new direction

Matt GarveyWyvern

I'm pretty sure it was - if he and Deb got the writing credit, I guess they came up with the basic plot...

Wyvern wrote:

Park LuckMatt Garvey

Do you realize that's a reference to when in the 1960's, John Lennon said "We're (The Beatles) bigger than Jesus?"

There was quite a backlash over that one.

evan

Michael BlackPark Luck

But that's the point. One would expect Flanders to be amongst those who object to that Lennon quote. But instead, he takes it literally, and since he takes God seriously, he then takes someone claiming to be "bigger than Jesus" as something important and to be pursued.

Michael

kelvSYCMichael Black

Would that mean that Ned would also be a Be Sharps collector?

I am only a mirage.
Matt GarveyMatt Garvey

I don't know what I was thinking - I meant Dave Shutton, but somehow my brain gave me that - maybe I was thinking of the real Tom Arnold, but it could also have been influenced by Bob Arnold in 8F01. Oh well...

Matt Garvey wrote: