Did you notice this last night?

Feb 21, 2005, 10:08 AM ET7 posts by 7 postersalt.tv.simpsons
7 posts
Stephen Damealt.tv.simpsons

When a show starts treading on its own fame, when the writers start making laboured jokes about the sight gags (Homer's map) that were once a trademark, and when the fact that the show is successful outside it's TV realm (Lisa's "Sunday Best Simpson's" line) it becomes more "hey, get it? get it? *wink* *wink*? *grinning thumbs up*" than intelligent self reference.

Last nights show had the potential to be something great, yet it was full of horrible hackneyed jokes and sight gags.

And the one thing that used to be a staple of The Simpson's, the fact that it was a real family, living in a surreal world (They didn't live in space, or have a talking dog) was busted by Barney's silly Road Runner act and the cigarette getting stuck in Homer's eye... far too Warner Bros. for The Simpson's.

I've never agreed with those who post about the "end" after every episode, I'm not one of the trolls or naysayers that usually take up space around here.

I loved The Simpson's, but I can officially say that as of last night, they've jumped the shark.

"Stephen Dame" wrote in message news:[email]...

Excellent points, although I dislike even the "intelligent self references." They're usually lazy. As well, I always believe that writers and producers ought to remember that every episode will be someone's first, and those newcomers won't understand those references.

space,

the

Matt Groening agrees with you 100% on that. On the DVD commentaries, he always points out how much he dislikes the impossible moments, like Leonard Nimoy transporting into thin air, or Homer's face morphing into Popeye and then Richard Nixon while at NASA. Maybe the writers slipped those through while he was on vacation. He says that when he first designed the show, one of his main points was that it wouldn't be like so many cartoons, that impossibilities like that *wouldn't* happen.

Gymdandym1t0s1salt.tv.simpsons

Like Bart stealing Grandpa's teeth putting them in his mouth. (Couldn't happen) and then spinning around on a ceiling fan. Wasn't that from one of the earliest season.

The Simpsons has always been Cartoonlike as it should be. But I agree they have overdone it recently

There is realism. A talking baby and a talking dog.

And NOT one Darren Hayes CD in the whole house

*Ninja*Gymdandyalt.tv.simpsons

wrote in message news:[email]...

Yeah season 4.

It would have been funnier if the record he put on was "The Tension & The Spark" though.....