OT: general question from britain to USA:

May 28, 2004, 6:44 AM ET62 posts by 18 posters
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James Q. Morrissey

how come all the americans on tv are across the board beautiful and thin (female) or incredibly buffed up (male) but when you go over there everyone is fat?

JQM

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everyone

Hmmm.... not really sure...

How come all the europeans on tv seem really sophisticated and refined but when you go over there everyone is dirty, smelly, obnoxious eurotrash?

BrewMasterThomas J. Paladino Jr.

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*Ding Ding*

We Have A Winner!

smacked that one outta the park.

Andy�BrewMaster

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Did it? He has obviously only ever been to France ... (assuming he has a passport).

Peter Hewitt-DuttonAndy�

Only 20% of Americans have a passport, amazing.

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Chris ®Peter Hewitt-Dutton

Most don't need one. We are a large country. If my country was smaller than an American state, then I'm sure more of us would have passports.

The U.S. is still the #1 destination for world tourism.

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Peter Hewitt-DuttonChris ®

True, it is a big country, but so is Canada who has a much larger percentage of passport ownership.

It's so popular with tourists because of America's complete domination of Youth Culture, and not much else.

Pete.

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Chris ®Peter Hewitt-Dutton

Much of Canada is uninhabitable and it has a very limited diversity of climate. There's less to do within it's borders.

If believing that gets you through the night, more power to you.

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R. FlowersPeter Hewitt-Dutton

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percentage

That's because of all the Canadians desperate to leave their squalid country.

JUST KIDDING!!! I LOVE CANADIANS!!!

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James Q. MorrisseyBrewMaster

but

did he? i think you'll find (this is to thomas, as well) that people being dirty, smelly and obnoxious is a worldwide problem. if you're going to deny that the US has one of the largest, if not THE largest, problems with obesity out of any country in the world then there's not much point in debating the issue with you.

the correct answer was, of course, that only the most beautiful people get put on tv. i merely brought it up because it's weird that from the news broadcasts, tv shows and films you could get the idea that nobody in america was fat at all, whereas in fact (etc). it's like a weird alternate america.

your ingenius and incisive stabs at the continent next to which my island is currently situated are much appreciated, though.

JQM

On Fri, 28 May 2004 13:37:30 GMT, "Thomas J. Paladino Jr." wrote:

To address the subject seriously:

US television generally seems to be about aspirations.   UK goes for
reality.   Both are exaggerated.   So the US gets sitcoms about black
families with improbably affluent lifestyles, we get "Eastenders"
celebrating a working-class Cockney  stereotype.

But we see "Jerry Springer" too. The truth is out :-)

Paul BartramLaurence Payne

"Laurence Payne" wrote

reality. Both are exaggerated. So the US gets sitcoms about black families with improbably affluent lifestyles, we get "Eastenders" celebrating a working-class Cockney stereotype.

You mean he's REAL? :-0

Paul

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How come the Europeans are smart enough to let their women, gorgeous and otherwise, go topless at the beach, and we prudes over here clothe them?

Space Mvsevm

Chris ®Aaron Hirshberg

Because breasts are more sexualized in the U.S.

Not every European beach allows that. There is no law in the state of New York which prevents a woman from going topless in public. Custom usually overshadows actual law.

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Vince McGowanAaron Hirshberg

Aaron Hirshberg wrote:

Perhaps the Europeans are smart, maybe the Americans are just dumb?

GyumaohAaron Hirshberg

Because most of our women are fat and no one wants to see _that_?

Vince McGowanGyumaoh

If you believe there are no fat women in Europe, you need a brain transplant, badly.

GyumaohVince McGowan

Look, the limey sod has a point. Why is it all the Guiness "World's Fattest" category winners come from our U.S.A.? Should we be ashamed that our government is waging war against Islamist terrorist vermin? No. Should we be ashamed that 200lb women with "Big Is Beautiful" bumper stickers are not uncommon? Yes.

Vince McGowanGyumaoh

Gyumaoh wrote:

If you're serious, you're a top candidate for a woodchipper treatment (feet first, of course).

GyumaohVince McGowan

Ah, Saddam. I didn't know you were online. How's your new bunkmate treating you?

Chris ®Gyumaoh

Cheap, plentiful food supply.

Who cares? At least our fat women shave their armpits.

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Laurence PayneChris ®

On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 11:29:36 -0400, [email] (Chris �) wrote:

Demonstrably not an unmixed blessing :-)

GyumaohChris ®

True. I thought the armpit thing was exclusive to France?

Chris ®Gyumaoh

"Brits eye ant-fat levy on fast food"

http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/25259.htm

Oh, the ironing ...

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NuQJames Q. Morrissey

Just learning that most "TV" is fiction, eh? No, Jimmy, TV is not real. Geez, and here I thought the Muslims living in the dark ages and thinking the USA is just like what they see in the movies were uniquely ignorant.

Paul BartramJames Q. Morrissey

"James Q. Morrissey" wrote

(female) or incredibly buffed up (male) but when you go over there everyone is fat?

Could be worse. The world thinks all us Aussies spend our spare time wrestling crocodiles...

Paul

James Q. MorrisseyPaul Bartram

everyone

:-) thanks for having a sense of humour, and not being a judgemental idiot.

JQM

R. FlowersJames Q. Morrissey

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thin

idiot.

Were it only true of everyone.

Russell Flowers http://lightning.prohosting.com/~opus2/

I've just got back from the states, and if we are having a go at US tv, just be thankful we don't get adverts like they do, be thankful we have laws the limit the number of adverts that can be shown on tv. Try watching a film on network tv in the US, impossible, ad break every 6 mins, and I thought the every 30 mins or so was bad that we get!! And as for the Simpsons, if you count the ads before and after the opening credits, they get 6 ad breaks in a new episode, compared to our 3. US tv is hard work to watch!!

Pete.

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everyone

Chris ®Peter Hewitt-Dutton

It's also free if you have an antenna or even a coat hanger. Brits must still pay for their TV access. The extra commercials is a trade-off. Most Americans have cable or satellite dishes, so we simply change the channel when commercials appear.

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periChris ®

That's what Peter said: "It's hard work"

Ted S.peri

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Do they have remote control where you are? :)

Ted <fedya at bestweb dot net> The way I see it, you raised three children who could knock out and hog- tie a perfect stranger, you must be doing *something* right. Marge Simpson, <http://www.snpp.com/episodes/7G01.html>
Chris ®James Q. Morrissey

Yeah, I'm sure Brits walk around the block when their TV stations go into commercials.

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James Q. MorrisseyChris ®

i'm a brit and i generally get up during commercials, go to the toilet or get a drink or something. i mostly find something more interesting to do and end up not going back. unless o' course it's a good simpsons.

JQM

Chris ®James Q. Morrissey

I'm sure Americans do the same (because this American does).

I'll be the first to agree that American network television sucks, filled with insipid "reality" shows and other crap geared to the lowest common denominator. I routinely watch about 5 shows on the 4 major networks. That's it.

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James Q. MorrisseyChris ®

then it was kinda misleading of you to object when i said "how about just gettin up", but fair nuff man.

i don't watch anything routinely anymore, there are few things good enough. by which i mean, that i like enough. i'll make time for the simpsons, futurama, family guy and frasier though. and to a lesser extent king of the hill.

JQM

GyumaohChris ®

I'll remind you that Europe is to blame for our plague of reality programs.

Hell, the UK is _directly_ responsible for American Idol.

Peter Hewitt-DuttonChris ®

Erm, no we don't!! We get 5 normal cannels free with as you put it "an antenna or even a coat hanger", we also get a much better reception from a single transmitter for all channels, instead of a different weak transmitter for each channel which you have. Also we get about 30 channels free digitally with "an antenna or even a coat hanger". Please do your research before making points. We also have alot of satalite and cable ownership. I have satalite (Sky), which is much better than yours (DirecTV, not used Dish, so sorry if it's any good). We have channels in a sensible order, a program guide that works, and a much better quality picture. Admitadly you have HDTV which we don't yet.

Pete.

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Chris ®Peter Hewitt-Dutton

What would those be? The TV license fee was still being collected in 2001:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/report2001/review/value.shtml

Never made any claims about British satellite services, nor did I claim any kind of American superiority. The rest of your complaints sounds like an uninformed diatribe. What works for you may not work in the States and vice versa.

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Peter Hewitt-DuttonChris ®

Yes, ok, the Licence fee applies, but thats only �100/yr per household, and that gets us 7 free to air advert free tv stations, and about 50 advert free radio stations. Good value for money I'd say!

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Chris ®Peter Hewitt-Dutton

In New York City, I can get 9 TV stations and hundreds of radio stations for nothing more than the cost of electricity or the cost of a package of batteries. Whatever works for you, I guess.

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Laurence PayneChris ®

On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 16:13:47 -0400, [email] (Chris �) wrote:

Do you still import our popular culture and call it "Masterpiece Theatre"?

Chris ®Laurence Payne

No. We call it "Benny Hill".

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Peter Hewitt-DuttonChris ®

And you pay for that with ad breaks every 6 mins, I believe that was my original point. Like I said, it's hard work watching american tv, because of the number of ads. Thankfully in England we have laws on the percentage of time commercial channels can show ads, and of course the BBC is adver free, until very recently we got the simpsons without ads 5 nights a week, much better than watching it on Fox.

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In New York City, I can get 9 TV stations and hundreds of radio stations for nothing more than the cost of electricity or the cost of a package of batteries. Whatever works for you, I guess.

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Chris ®Peter Hewitt-Dutton

We're used to it.

The absurdidy of this whole argument is that you're proclaiming the superiority of British television by claiming that you can watch an American television show with fewer commercial interruptions. I'm sure Brits watch a lot more of American television than we do of yours. I'm sure they can enjoy every gripping moment of Survivor, Friends and the Super Bowl with fewer commercials. All hail the supremacy of British television.

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Peter Hewitt-DuttonChris ®

If you are used to it, I feel sorry for you. Survivor hasn't been shown in the UK (Thankfully), Friends is shown, and the Superbowl is just shown live on a pay satalite channel.

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Chris ®Peter Hewitt-Dutton

Save your pity for people who need it.

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Laurence PayneChris ®

On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 20:53:52 -0400, [email] (Chris �) wrote:

Oh, we get lots of Australian crap too :-)

Ted S.Peter Hewitt-Dutton

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You mean the licence fee has been repealed?

Ted <fedya at bestweb dot net> The way I see it, you raised three children who could knock out and hog- tie a perfect stranger, you must be doing *something* right. Marge Simpson, <http://www.snpp.com/episodes/7G01.html>

transmitter

works,

this means i have paying my tv licence for nothing. dammit.

JQM

Jack SchittJames Q. Morrissey

They say t.v. makes you look thinner and more beautiful, also wealthier and whiter.

Aaron HirshbergJack Schitt

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America: Roseanne, Linda Tripp, Maureen Reagan. Europe: Paulina Porizkova, Emma Thompson, Diana Rigg, Twiggy.

Space Mvsevm

Vince McGowanAaron Hirshberg

Aaron Hirshberg wrote:

True, but hardly an exhaustive or representative list.

Twiggy??? Are you in your 70's? :-D