The Homer effect

Oct 9, 2006, 2:26 PM ET15 posts by 6 posters
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Topi Linkala

Last night I woke up with these series of images in my mind.

The Homer effect:

Homer screws up big time, notices it and says 'do'h' with very loud voice. Camera pulls out, while the voice is still reveberating, so that the earth enters the picture. As earth turns and Australia comes into view camera zooms into Australia where we find a gentle breeze tearing a mulberry berry out of a tree. The berry falls and crushes a butterfly on the ground.

Topi

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell "How come he didn't put 'I think' at the end of it?" - Anonymous
Aaron HirshbergTopi Linkala

This "effect" figured prominently in the "toaster is a time machine" THOH vignette.

Mr. Museum

R FlowersAaron Hirshberg

wrote in message news:[email]...

Well, there's one 'butterfly effect' that imagines the beating wing of a butterfly in China leading to a tornado in America. Then there is the classic science fiction short story by Ray Bradbury ("A Sound of Thunder") wherein time travellers radically change history by stepping on a butterfly in the time of dinosaurs. This serves as the springboard for the THOH. And of course, "Butterfly Effect" the 2004 movie which also had a kind of time travel.

-- R Flowers

Aaron HirshbergR Flowers

In Chaos Theory, all the points on the real line [0,1], can be mapped to a set of infinite strings of zeroes and ones, where none of these strings is the same. The 0 or 1 byte corresponds to which side of the centerline of the [0,1] the point from the [0, 1] set lands on after n trips through the iterator. Eventually two points next to each other on the real line wind up on opposite sides of the centerline. Sensitive dependency on initial conditions. I have not studied this material in a while, as I am busy reading books about Design Patterns and C++ STL for work, so I have no time for additional study of Chaos Theory right now. But, IIRC, the butterfly thing, if it ever happened, would be explained by this. And this is also why tiny increases in the ambient temperature create more hurricanes and so on.

Mr. Museum

Topi LinkalaAaron Hirshberg

[email] wrote:

Sorry to correct you but it is [0,1) not [0,1].

Topi

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell "How come he didn't put 'I think' at the end of it?" - Anonymous
Topi LinkalaR Flowers

R Flowers wrote:

Funny. I've always heard that 'the butterflu effect' is that a butterfly beating it's wings in _Australia_ causes a hurricane in Europe.

Topi

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell "How come he didn't put 'I think' at the end of it?" - Anonymous
R FlowersTopi Linkala

"Topi Linkala" wrote in message news:egh1lv$k43$[email]...

Well, same principle.

You'll wish you'd never typed 'butterflu' once Aaron gets ahold of it...

-- R Flowers

Topi LinkalaR Flowers

R Flowers wrote:

My blood level in alcohol is quit low, so I don't apologize any typos I've made.

Topi

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell "How come he didn't put 'I think' at the end of it?" - Anonymous
Aaron HirshbergR Flowers

What's his name is driving me crazy with his swearing, so I am going to chill for a while.

I am so busy at work and reading work related stuff at home that I was unable to give an explanation of Chaos Theory on the same level with the explanation I gave for why fluids rotate in opposite directions in the Northern and Southern Hemisphere due to the Coriolis Force that is caused by the fluid translating in a rotating reference frame (the rotating Earth).

Ay, a dingo's eatin' yo' baby, ... mate!

Mr. Museum

Topi LinkalaAaron Hirshberg

[email] wrote:

Random movement of the draining fluid has more effect on draining of the fluid than does the coriolis force.

Topi 'hope that that is grammatically coorect' Linkala

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell "How come he didn't put 'I think' at the end of it?" - Anonymous
Aaron HirshbergTopi Linkala

Yes. The experiment to show rotation due to Coriolis Force has to be very carefully designed. Even the surface tension forces on the edge of the tank can cancel out the Coriolis Force.

OTOH, if your "tank" is the atmosphere above the Atlantic Ocean, you don't have to be so careful.

Mr. Museum

thesimpsonsforumTopi Linkala

I've heard of it as being something like a butterfly beating it's wings in China will cause a tsunami in America.

Dougmanthesimpsonsforum

[email] wrote:

But since tsunamis are not caused by wind, that's not correct either.