Day the Violence Died question

S07E18 The Day the Violence DiedretroJul 22, 2002, 3:49 AM ET6 years later6 posts by 6 posters
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Actionadventure guide

I know it's old, but this has been burning me. In "The Day the Violence Died" (3F16) when Lester and Eliza save the day, the show ends with Bart and Lester staring each other down. I thought these two would become recurring villains and it was really creepy in a cool way. Does anyone know what happened to that idea? Was it always a one-shot joke?

Thanks, Fred

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When this episode first aired, my mother was watching it with me and she said, "So I guess Lester will be a recurring character now" so apparently you weren't the only one to think that :) But I had always assumed it would just be a one-time thing. Lester looked too much like Bart and I guess newbies to the show would get them mixed up. He is actually based on some of Bart's early designs.

Jeremy GallenActionadventure guide

Yeah, it was just one-shot. Lester and Eliza resemble Bart and Lisa from the Tracy Ullman era of the Simpsons, if you didn't know, BTW.

Chris PfeilerActionadventure guide

Actionadventure guide wrote:

To say it in short (long review for 3F16 would mean 2 pages or more.)

The episode was a really brilliant satire about plagiarism in the cartoon business and about how famous characters base on other (maybe not so famous) characters. The ending is a surreal manifestation of the underlying satire.

Lester and Eliza are nothing but symbols for the Tracey Ullman versions of Bart and Lisa and when they meet them, they have to face their own existence as "plagiarized" and "evolved" characters who base on former characters. It�s a surreal meta-concept and no one-shot joke.

It refers to the deeper concept of the episode (plagiarism satire). Lester and Eliza never returned because they are always there in her new form as Bart and Lisa. It would IMO make no sense to let them return, the base for the meta-humor would be missing. That�s the point of the "joke". I think I�ve mentioned it in one or two of my texts and reviews.

That�s IMO the point of 3F16 and that�s why I always say "Try to make a clear difference between surface plot and deeper layers of meaning." It really explains things like that.

Chris

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----- Actionadventure guide (Mon, 22 Jul 2002 07:49:20 GMT) -----

Now THIS I've wondered for some time, but I forgot to ask about it. I thought it'd've been cool to see them occasionally.

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Jeremy GallenActionadventure guide

From: [email] (Jeremy Gallen)

Yeah, it was just one-shot. Lester and Eliza resemble Bart and Lisa from the Tracy Ullman era of the Simpsons, if you didn't know, BTW. --- NewsGate v1.0 gamma 2 * Origin: -=<FriedCheez News Gate>=- (219:364/100.99) --- Mental Meltdown Newsgroup Gate * Mental Meltdown - IN - telnet://mmbbs.darktech.org