A year ago, this place was filled with the likes of Dean Humphries, Wave King, Drew Levine, Chris Palm and the always outrageous (and fellow DINS) Kieran Murphy. Then I went away to college, and now they're all gone. I'm miss Seth Miller at this point. What happened to these guys?
-- An XPeeple Production -- "As a child, I always wanted to bite his head off. This is my way of doing that... creatively." -Andy Dick as Marylin Manson "Most critics want to be authors, screenwriters and novelists, [but] they just suck." -Joe Rogan
-- An XPeeple Production -- "As a child, I always wanted to bite his head off. This is my way of doing that... creatively." -Andy Dick as Marylin Manson "Most critics want to be authors, screenwriters and novelists, [but] they just suck." -Joe Rogan
Admittedly not the best executed joke. It's from "A Streetcar Named Marge," where the guy behind the "worst-dressed lists" gives that note to Goldie Hawn. Bart then snickers and says, "He's such a bitch!"
-- An XPeeple Production -- "As a child, I always wanted to bite his head off. This is my way of doing that... creatively." -Andy Dick as Marylin Manson "Most critics want to be authors, screenwriters and novelists, [but] they just suck." -Joe Rogan
A simple proposition: How would you like to make a dollar? All you have to do is sign a paper that says I can get your life. I need to get a life - any life. YOURS! :-)
I am sorry, but I no longer have that item. I am not at liberty to discuss the party who purchased it, but they were VERY interested in the little boy's LIFE.
-- An XPeeple Production -- "As a child, I always wanted to bite his head off. This is my way of doing that... creatively." -Andy Dick as Marylin Manson "Most critics want to be authors, screenwriters and novelists, [but] they just suck." -Joe Rogan
In alt.tv.simpsons, on the "Re: Where is Everybody?" thread, The Rack wrote:
At college now. I still hear from him periodically.
He got fed up with the show, and posted his farewell to it (and this group) shortly after "Alone Again, Natura-Diddly (AABF10)" aired. The last I heard, he was a frequent visitor to IRC.
Ape: Help, the human's about to escape.
Troy: Get your paws off me, you dirty ape.
Apes: [gasping] He can talk!
Apes: [in unison, rythmed]
He can talk
He can talk
He can talk
He can talk
He can talk
He can talk
Troy: [singing] I can siiiiiing!
[funky beat of "Rock Me Amadeus" starts playing]
Female Nurse Ape: Ooh, help me Dr. Zaius!
Apes: [in unison]
Dr. Zaius, Dr. Zaius
Dr. Zaius, Dr. Zaius
Dr. Zaius, Dr. Zaius
Oh... Dr. Zaius
Ape: Dr. Zaius, Dr. Zaius.
Troy: What's wrong with me?
Zaius: I think you're crazy.
Troy: Want a second opinion.
Zaius: You're also lazy.
Apes: [in unison]
Dr. Zaius, Dr. Zaius
Dr. Zaius, Dr. Zaius
Dr. Zaius, Dr. Zaius
[one ape starts breakdancing]
Oh... Dr. Zaius
Ape: Dr. Zaius, Dr. Zaius.
Troy: Can I play the piano anymore?
Zaius: Of course you can.
Troy: Well I couldn't before!
[plays piano]
"You'll Never Make a Monkey Out of Me"
Troy: [singing]
I hate every ape I see
From chimpan-a to chimpan-zee
No you'll never make a monkey out of me
Oh my God, I was wrong
It was Earth all along
You've finally made a monkey
Apes: Yes we've finally made a monkey
Troy: Yes you've finally made a monkey out of me
Apes: Yes we've finally made a monkey out of you
Did anyone catch the behind the scenes look at Tim Burton's "POTA" on fox last week? They used several scenes from the Simpsons to show how ingrained the first one is in our culture. Sincerely, Little Girl
I didn't watch, in fear of spoilers. Oh well. Sucky movie.
The remake, that is.
-- An XPeeple Production -- "As a child, I always wanted to bite his head off. This is my way of doing that... creatively." -Andy Dick as Marylin Manson "Most critics want to be authors, screenwriters and novelists, [but] they just suck." -Joe Rogan
Also, I wonder why ChaiTheDog and Alexj33106 never come anymore?
I'm now feeling like a considerable loser, for I have been in this newsgroup since 1996, never leaving.
BTW, this would be a good time to announce that, when the summer ends, I'll be off to college and no longer a regular here, except during the holidays. I probably won't even watch much Simpsons peisodes anymore.
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8F15, 9F22, 1F04, 2F10, 3F13, 4F14, 5F02, AABF03,
BABF05, CABF14
"Is there no place for the man with the 105 IQ?!?!"
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I'm almost certain that Chai graduated at the same time that I did, and it's likely that he's in college now, too. I can't say for sure though, perhaps I'll make an effort to ask him.
I think that was Drew Levine's story, too.
_You_ feel like a loser? My obsession with posting two years ago led to the end of the post rankings for each month. Now _that_'s patheticity.
That's what happened to me, that's what happens to everyone. It's funny, because the hardcore fans I know at school stopped watching when they started living in dorms, but living in dorms (with the help of a T1 or three) has made hardcore fans out of a lot of formerly casual viewers I know.
-- An XPeeple Production -- "As a child, I always wanted to bite his head off. This is my way of doing that... creatively." -Andy Dick as Marylin Manson "Most critics want to be authors, screenwriters and novelists, [but] they just suck." -Joe Rogan
I 'unno. That's always been a big event in our dorm- the minute it hits 5:30PM (or 10:00PM at night), there's generally a sizable crowd gathered around the big-screen TV in the common lounge to get their Simpsons fix. You might end up watching more than you think.
At least that's more believable than the crap in that "undeclared" promo..
-- An XPeeple Production -- "As a child, I always wanted to bite his head off. This is my way of doing that... creatively." -Andy Dick as Marylin Manson "Most critics want to be authors, screenwriters and novelists, [but] they just suck." -Joe Rogan
Goodness! I had no idea! For you see, I have been on Mars for the past decade, in a cave, with my eyes shut, and my fingers in my ears.
-- An XPeeple Production -- "As a child, I always wanted to bite his head off. This is my way of doing that... creatively." -Andy Dick as Marylin Manson "Most critics want to be authors, screenwriters and novelists, [but] they just suck." -Joe Rogan
And I've been trying so hard to keep the Martians under wraps. And control the British crown. And keep the metric system down etc etc. You all get the joke.
Damn straight! Every once in awhile I see a post about Lisa the Vegetarian and just wait from something from Ochlocrat. Alas, his penchant for 40oz beverages and teenage girls has dragged him down. Wait, that doesn't sound so bad! Seriously, I think he went back to community college. Dean Humphries became too obsessed with snuh and i can only assume has been institutionalized somewhere. Sincerely, Little Girl
The girls are fine, but stay away from the alkeehol, it's a killer. And whatever you do, DON'T drink Limon Baccardi. The first and last time I drank that I couldn't taste the alcohol until the tenth shot or so, and by the end of the night I was crying between vomit sessions about how I was going to end up being shot to by my future third wife at the peak of my career. Or so I've been told. Good times..
I always thought he dormed.. Hubris, non-needle drugs and 40s are usually the telltale signs of a resident student.
He's a very nice guy, when you speak to him, and only half as obsessed with snuh as he is on the newsnuhgroup. ^_^
-- An XPeeple Production -- "As a child, I always wanted to bite his head off. This is my way of doing that... creatively." -Andy Dick as Marylin Manson "Most critics want to be authors, screenwriters and novelists, [but] they just suck." -Joe Rogan
No way, Limon is great. Lemon Drop shots are a good shot to order for a girl because they taste relatively sweet but are 100% vodka. Then you can take them to the barn dance! Sincerely, Little Girl
-- An XPeeple Production -- "As a child, I always wanted to bite his head off. This is my way of doing that... creatively." -Andy Dick as Marylin Manson "Most critics want to be authors, screenwriters and novelists, [but] they just suck." -Joe Rogan
I feel that I have to clarify. It's more than a single lemon wedge. The easiest way to make it is to get a low ball glass, martini shaker, 1 whole lemon cut into small squares, sugar. Pour 3 oz. of vodka into the martini shaker, and squeeze the lemon into the shaker then put the lemons into the shaker. Pour 1 tsp of sugar into the shaker. Put the lid on the shaker and shake, (not stir) contents. Rim the glass with sugar as you would a margarita glass. Strain out the liquid into the glass, either plain or on the rocks. Sit back and enjoy.
A Manhattan eh. This particular drink requires 3/4 oz. Sweet Vermouth, 2 1/2 oz. Blended Bourbon, a dash of Angostura bitters, 2-3 ice cubes, 1 Marishino cherry, and 1 twist of Orange Peel. This drink should be served in a traditional cocktail glass.
Combine the vermouth, whiskey (bourbon), bitters and ice in a mixing glass. Stir gently, (Not shaken). Don't bruise the spirits and cloud the drink. Place the cherry in a chilled cocktail glass and strain the mixture over the cherry. Rub the cut edges of the orange peel over the rim of the glass and twist it over the drink to release the oils, but don't drop it in.
A slight variation can be withouth the bitters. Or you can substutite a twist of lime for the cherry and orange. Hold the lime twist in a lighted match over the drink and then drop it in, the heat releases the lime flavor.
I know the reference, but I just wanted to be a smart ass and respond with the recipe.
-- An XPeeple Production -- "As a child, I always wanted to bite his head off. This is my way of doing that... creatively." -Andy Dick as Marylin Manson "Most critics want to be authors, screenwriters and novelists, [but] they just suck." -Joe Rogan
What have I done to deserve this flat, flavorless Manhattan? But you were right on on the lemon drop, I didn't feel like getting into the details. Sincerely, Little Girl
In , on Tuesday 24 July 2001 01:49, AcK! at [email] had the In , on Tuesday 24 July 2001 01:49, AcK! at [email] took its finger out of its ass and typed:
Though not replying directly to you Bill (if that IS your real name...)
Over the 5 years I've posted off and on, A.T.S. has always worked best when people freely correspond with *everyone*... from "en_mog" to "Ondre Lombard". Posts like this, IMO, seek to fragment the group into cliques, and can be interpreted as snooty.
These five individuals are surely flattered you've mentioned them (in varying degrees ;) but that leaves potentially hundreds of people asking (as WAVKING did so eloquently) "What am I, chopped glavin?" The point is, why can't we include everyone? The more inclusive a group we have, no matter who is here, the better IMO. We should be the least prone to alienate anyone; after all, we "do" like the best TV show in history, don't we? Why can't we raise our level of personal interaction?
I'd be thoroughly disappointed if the group broke itself into cliques again (as it often has) and it would really be a chore to read/keep up with if we went that direction.
Sorry if this is interpreted as a type of rebuke... just food for thought.
He was around until about this time last year, I believe.
-- An XPeeple Production -- "As a child, I always wanted to bite his head off. This is my way of doing that... creatively." -Andy Dick as Marylin Manson "Most critics want to be authors, screenwriters and novelists, [but] they just suck." -Joe Rogan
Don't forget who he really was, either-- Simpsons "writer" Ian Maxtone-Graham..
-- An XPeeple Production -- "As a child, I always wanted to bite his head off. This is my way of doing that... creatively." -Andy Dick as Marylin Manson "Most critics want to be authors, screenwriters and novelists, [but] they just suck." -Joe Rogan
This Makes loads of sense to me, but then I am talking as a new member of this group I don't know the history of what's been going on here.
What is the point in alienating anyone? Surely even the people who don't agree with your own point of view have some good points to make, and it also makes for more interesting conversations than if everyone did agree on everything!
I was also wondering as it's come up, how long people have been involved in this group, and why did cliques form in the first place? Has there been a lot of this kind of thing over the years?
As a new poster, it also makes it much easier to join in if people aren't instantly hostile that's for sure. Which is why I appreciate The Rack's points here.
Em
"The Rack" wrote in message news:Nmd77.12048$[email]...
"EMILY KATE HEWERDINE" wrote in message news:[email]...
I'm guessing the tendency for a person to ignore most others here, and buddy up with one or two others is a phenomenon best explained by sociology or psychology types. Probably a little inferiority complex in there, somewhere. Someone care to jump in, here?
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It's not so much intellectual peering I'm talking about; it's the social aspect. Some people on this group seem ignored for the same reasons they were probably ignored in school. But; true, an intelligent on-topic post here generally gets a poster some respect.
agree on everything!
True, when we're talking about conversations... which would be lovely to have all the time. But, what about the poster who puts his/her addition into a quote-cascade, and no one follows it? It could be an oversight. But, after time, it would tend to alienate this person IMO. The person becomes more and more desperate for interaction, and leaves... I'm guessing Steve (Yankees fan) left because the interaction he had with the group fell off. Same with this "Wilson" that just left.
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Just like life... people who have the same sense-of-humor, people expecting the same things out of "The Simpsons", and people experiencing the same things in life will gravitate towards each other. College students make up a large part of ATS, for example. It's difficult to leave one's comfort zone, and befriend someone who is very different. I've tried (with varying degrees of success ;) to befriend good folks like Benjamin Robinson and Mark Aaron Richey, who seemed at first to like the TV show for totally different reasons than me.
Over the years, I've found we've got more in common than not, though.
I think so, but if one doesn't make the attempt at becoming someone's friend, it's one's own fault.
points here.
Thanks. It's nice to break out of sarcastic mode once in a while with some friendly B.S. We just have to make sure to notice those on the group who's interaction may be lowest, and involve them more. Plus, someone should bring a cream pie.
"The Rack" wrote in message news:cGn77.13623$[email]...
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Excuse me, we were to understand there'd be punch and pie.
Seriously though, it just happens that certain people tend to respond to each other all the time. I'll bet, Rack, that you and I could, by taking turns, re-enact an ENTIRE episode. We ought to try it sometime. :)
It seems that you're new to Usenet in general, so I'll be as gentle as possible here..
First, ats is probably the last newsgroup you'll get a hard time for having an opinion different than someone else's. The people who gravitiate here generally stick to genuine argumentation than to such petty things as ad hominem attacks (save people like Seth Miller, who lingered between both).
Second, ats is probably the most hectic newsgroup you'll ever visit outside of the Star Trek world. More regulars than I can count have left the group since I first joined two and a half years ago. That's why significant people are important to keeping the group alive. I'm not saying that the actual _people_ are better than others, but their work is more important as far as keeping the local mythology alive. Perhaps the three most well-known atsers have been Dave Hall, who was part of the newsgroup since its original posts (and who probably played a part in the original alt.config message); Ondre Lombard, who was famous for his love of the dramatic part of the show, and became a legend for various other reasons; and Dean Humphries, who changed the meaning of the word 'thread' forever. These people aren't necessarily gods but their work was certainly nectar. Their identities and reputations link the newsgroup together.
"Cliques" do form, and it's very natural in a place like this. While I look forward to your stay's being a long one, statistically you won't even be here when I leave for college in a month. The five or six people I mentioned were here for years. I got to know them and their style in posting, and it became a treat to see their responses to threads. The cliques tend to form between people who have bothered to stay on the group for more than a month. I'm not excluding you or anyone else from the possibility of being the next ats god, but you have to understand that you're not going to be regarded with as high esteem as others who have spent more time on the group than you have. YET, that is.
-- An XPeeple Production -- "As a child, I always wanted to bite his head off. This is my way of doing that... creatively." -Andy Dick as Marylin Manson "Most critics want to be authors, screenwriters and novelists, [but] they just suck." -Joe Rogan
Actually, I didn't discover the newsgroup until June-July 1991.
Gary D. Duzan, the "Father" of a.t.s., is actually the person responsible for issuing the original newsgroup creation, which some of us later determined must have happened around March 1990.
An interesting bit of trivial about the newsgroup creation, Gary wrote in email: "There were about 100 messages posted there in the first 24 hours, though most were of the form, `Hey, did you notice that Bart writes something different on the board each week?'"
BTW this Aug 9th will mark my 10th anniversary posting to a.t.s.
There's quite a lot of individuals that made a lasting impression on the newsgroup, either by longevity, informative, humor, controversy, etc. Here's a partial list of posters I feel fall into this category. Apologies to those I've missed. (The list could easily topple 200+ but it would take way too much of my time to grep 383,300+ posts.)
A. Krupowicz Don Del Grande Matthew Kurth
Aaron Varhola Donna Coyne Michael Zey
Al Wesolowsky Elson Trinidad Noel Tominack
Alan J Rosenthal Frederic Briere Patrick Hayden
Andrew Gill Gary S. Nabors Ray Charbonneau
Andrew Mutchler Gavan McCormack Raymond Chen
Ben Collins Hari Wierny Ricardo Lafaurie Jr.
Benjamin J Robinson Haynes Lee Rick Diamant
Brad Lascelle J.D. Baldwin Rick Senger
Brendan Kehoe James A. Cherry Ron Carter
Brian Petersen James Willer Ryan Johnson
Bruce Mills Jason Hancock Sarah Ellen Fidelibus
Bruce Watson Jim Smith Scott Fujimoto
Bucky Whaley John R. Donald Solon Boomer-Jenks
Chadderack Jouni Paakkinen Stephen Wayne Miller
Chris Baird Juha Terho Steve Mills
Chris Best Jym Dyer Steve Portigal
Christopher P Dent Karl Wagenfuehr Steve Stelter
Dale G. Abersold Le Penguin Steven Boswell
David Hyatt Liam J. Scanlan Ted Frank
Dedi Shy Marc Singer Tony Hill
Doc Quack Mark A. Holtz Vaughn Jett
Dominik Halas Mark Aaron Richey Wavking
If anyone got this far in reading this post, here's a partial list of my .sig quotes I culled from the newsgroup over the years:
"To date I'd have to say that alt.tv.simpsons has been my greatest impact on society: the waste of thousands of hours of time by thousands of users. I wonder if the total has hit a million hours wasted yet." -- Gary D. Duzan, 6-Jun-99
"Dave, you quote this show and it's creators with more gusto than I've seen any preacher quote the bible. <g>" -- Brian Petersen
"I'm an old schooler, so I might be a little biased on the matter, but I think it's telling when the best part of a new episode is the part that reminds me most of an old episode." -- Benjamin Robinson, a.t.s., 28-Feb-00
"It may only be a cartoon, but to the producers -- it is a career!" -- Dave Hall
"Don't get so hysterical that your behaviour would be indistinguishable from that of a person giving birth to a large bovine animal -- In other words, Don't have a Cow, Man!" -- Jym Dyer
"Frevin's aches, this ain't Star Trek. Foolish consistency and all that. If consistency were a main concern, we'd have given up on The Simpsons long ago..." -- Raymond Chen, 30-Dec-91
"Well, that's the best I can do with a head full of snot."
-- Brian Petersen
"Didja notice that all the actors on The Simpsons do their own stunts? Let's see you try that with any other prime-time TV show!" -- Raymond Chen
"I lurk. I post. I laugh. I enjoy."
-- Paul Brannigan, 16-Jan-96
"Homer's nemisis is his brain."
-- Maka Yay, 22-Apr-96
alt.tv.simpsons FAQs can be retrieved at http://www.snpp.com/
-- Frederic Briere's .sig line
"I have a life, thank you very much - except on Sundays at 8:00."
-- Don Del Grande
"Simpsons Illustrated DO answer their mail!"
-- Chris Baird
"On the Internet, no one knows you're Homer Simpson."
"On the Internet no one can hear you D'oh!"
"Homer's idea of `working conscientiously' is sitting at his desk eating doughnuts with a knife and fork, instead of just cramming them in with both hands." -- Donna Coyne, 5-May-97
Krusty: Can I steal this .sig from Chris Baird? SSRahem: I wouldn't.
Q: Do you think Dan Quayle could match wits with Maggie Simpson? A: Nah, me neither. Maggie'd crush him. - Ron Echeverri, 12 Aug 1992
"The road to Hell is paved with rabbit fur and fezzes."
-- Marv Acme
Lucas Cox: If Matt Groening released "Citizen Kane" tommorow, a few
ATS'rs would call it "The worst movie ever".
ChaiTheDog: It just might be; can you imagine a movie about a
crudely-drawn bunny's rise to fame?
-- alt.tv.simpson, 21-Jun-99
Ben Cohen: Can anybody give me a legitimate possibly technical reason
why there are 20 producers for the show?
Dedi Shy: One to screw in the light bulb and the other 19 to find
celebrty guests.
-- a.t.s, 01-Apr-96
"This is the kind of stuff that I expect from a NG, some real informative knowledge, a real pleasure to read, not a bunch of nonsensical posts." -- Dean Humphries
"Every time the subject of supporting characters starring in episodes comes up, I can't help but feel like I'm in that focus group in "Itchy and Scratchy and Poochie". Only this time, everybody's cheering for both "Focus more on Bart and Lisa and Maggie and Marge", and "Change the name of the show to 'Homer and the Wacky Townspeople'." -- Sunshine, a.t.s., 04-Jul-99
"The Simpsons Archive (www.snpp.com) has much more info than the Complete Guide, and it's been around a heck of a lot longer, too. It was nice to get an official book on the show, but it's not as if the book is any great fountain of info." -- Gary Wilson, a.t.s., 28-Mar-99
"One thing you should take into consideration while reading a.t.s. is its high turnaround ratio. Many people who are posting right now will be gone next months, and many of next month's posters aren't reading these posts yet." -- Frederic Briere, a.t.s., 14-Aug-96
"I believe many people who find this newsgroup perceive it with frivolous regard, and therefore think they could ask/discuss some useless things here. That was all fine and ignorable about 5 years ago, but by now, the fact that a large number of people would use the energy to type up a post about a cartoon character's blatently obvious sexuality is staggering." -- Ondre Lombard, a.t.s., 12-Sep-97
"After lurking on this newsgroup for a while, I realized that people had a wide range of opinions on what is "funny," so I tend to just state my opinion and accept the opinions of those who I disagree with." --Scott Fujimoto, a.t.s., 6-Mar-95
"Insulting Dave Hall is like insulting the Pope."
-- Jason Hancock, a.t.s., 11-Jan-97
"I've noticed quite a bit of "Dave Hall" postings. Could he be Matt Groening under cover? Just a suspicion. No flames please." -- Andy Games, a.t.s., 28-Jul-96
"I have noticed, as I'm sure many others have, that every time the seeming Simpsons archivist Dave Hall posts something, he closes with a Simpsons quote which is ideal for the subject and/or occasion." -- Tara Ariano, a.t.s., 10-Mar-95
Unlike many if not most of the posts in this group, Dave Hall's are uniformly informative and accurate. -- Jonathan S. Haas, 6-Jan-97
"The immaturity of some of the people on this newsgroup is staggering. I wish people like Don Del Grande and Dave Hall would post more often." -- Chris Buecheler, 21-Oct-96
"I would guess that if you went to alt.tv.[any sitcom], you would
find continuity problems being discussed in the same manner.
-- Andrew Gill, a.t.s., 7-Sep-97
"The writers have no respect for continuity."
-- Paul Canniff, a.t.s., 19-Oct-98
"While I respect that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and realize that many complaints are made by very intelligent people, it seems to me that sometimes these people take the program too seriously." -- Jeff Dean, a.t.s., 12-Oct-98
"It can be a sign of lazy writing when the writers are so unable to come up with a decent story that they need to radically change the characters just to fill time." -- Eric Sansoni, a.t.s., 27-Apr-99
"I can tolerate continuity not going from episode to episode but come on--they should have continuity within one episode." -- Mark Skrbich, a.t.s., 26-Dec-98
"For writers continuity is a nuissance, complicating an already hard creative process. I'm sure they are well aware of any continuity errors they make, but they have little reason to care about it." -- Ostap Bender, a.t.s., 24-May-99
"It's the magic of cartoons where the impossible happens and laws of physics nature and reasoning go out the window." -- baba-booey, a.t.s., 01-Sep-98
"We're all fans of a great TV show called The Simpsons.
That's why we're here."
-- Ben Collins, a.t.s, 24-Sep-98
"In my opinion, the show was much funnier when it stuck to the basics." -- Robert Santiago, a.t.s., 08-May-97
"I never cease to be amazed by the number of people out there who say that every new episode was, without a doubt, the worst one ever made." -- Jeff Dean, a.t.s., 12-Oct-98
"Why every season, people say this season sucks. This has been going on for 5 years now. You'd think that the Simpsons was the worst show on TV. So far, I am finding this season to be better than last." -- Robert Merritt, 18-Dec-96
"I cannot believe how catty people get in reaction to a few (not a dozen) jokes. It is fascinating the way we need to attach a face and a personality to faceless entity who challenges our opinions in a way we find offensive." -- Ric Dube, 19-Nov-91
"There are a lot of shows that make me laugh and some shows that make me cry, the reason I love the Simpsons so much is that it has the ability to do both." -- Paul Buxton, 27-Dec-98
"I posted over 400 times to ATS and all I can expect is a bunch of sarcastic responses." -- Kieran Murphy, a.t.s., 21-Jan-00
"The Simpsons is a hobby of mine; I enjoy watching it and talking about it. I think I'm enthusiastic, not obsessed. Then again, nobody understands anything from the fanatic's viewpoint except the fanatic." -- ChaiTheDog, a.t.s, 30-May-99
"I think too many of the complainers are expecting some sort of phenomena to happen in their life when they watch this show." -- HypnoNLP, 11-Feb-97
"I guess understanding doesn't include respect. That's definatly not how a Simpsons fan should be defined." -- Cindy Slaughter, 12-Jan-97
"If you remove the criticism from a.t.s. then all you've got left are the "best ralph line" threads and reviews that all say "this episode rocked!". That wouldn't be very entertaining would it?" -- Ryan Johnson, 03-Feb-97
"These `Simpsons: Love it or leave it' posts always puzzle me. Are these people's personalities so fragile that opposing views about a TV show can get them that worked up?" -- Le Penguin, 13-Feb-97
"The show is worth discussing critically _because_ the writers spend so much time creating each episode. Sometimes, we only acknowledge the latter after engaging in the former." -- Nathan Dietz, 10 Jan 97
"Anyone who wants to learn about America should just watch The Simpsons. Pretty much every facet of this country is covered at least once." -- drummguy13
"When viewed as a collective opus, I think "The Simpsons" has very little to be ashamed of." -- James A. Cherry
"That's the problem with finding out where Springfield is. Something is given in one episode, and it's contradicted in the next episode." -- Jason Hancock, 4-Jan-97
"Well now that one was just freakin' great!!! The writers and animators broke some strange ground on this one. I think we have a new champion! Hell, I'm gonna go watch it again! Oh, and now the morons in a.t.s. can rip it apart and bitch about how bad the show has become. Pfft...weiners." -- DnHelfrich, 6 Jan 97
"Heh heh, I love it when episodes are called both `best ever' and `worst ever' by different people." -- James A. Cherry, 7 Jan 97
"I hope Fox can remember that the only thing that matters to the viewer is CONTENT, CONTENT, CONTENT!" -- James P. Curtiss, 10 Jan 97
"Perhaps my fondest memory is discovering alt.tv.simpsons. I had just recently learned about newsgroups in general, and was logging on to read some computer news, when -- pow! -- the machine noted the new group "alt.tv.simpsons" and asked if I wished to subscribe. Guess what my answer was. After I graduated, I lost access to the Internet, but from time to time I'd pine away for a.t.s." -- Benjamin Robinson, 20 May 1997
"No matter what you do, there's always going to be people who will stumble on a.t.s., and post w/o even bothering to read ONE post." -- Frederic Briere, 13-Nov-97
"I laughed, I cried, it became a part of me."
-- Raymond Chen on "Lisa's Substitute"
Just so there isn't any misunderstanding (i.e. "hard feelings"), the list was mostly culled from various stat lists over the past 6-8 years. Since I wasn't around this past 16-18 months it should be obvious that a lot of current posters won't be on it.
I agree, it's amazing to read through snpp.com and see the comments, suggestions, reviews, and DYNs from people you see (or did see) posting here everyday. Ondre Lombard is one for example that seemed to have a particularly strong affection for the family unit Simpsons, yet his hatred of "Whacky Homer" was legendary. Sincerely, Little Girl
On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 16:11:07 +0100, "EMILY KATE HEWERDINE" wrote:
IMHO, no - as I said to The Rack, I can't associate this newsgroup with cliques. Sometimes people will find it easy to follow up to certain people's replies (let's say, because of an ongoing joke), but it's not like people turn their backs on you when you interrupt their thread ('conversation').
So to answer your question, no, not really. :)
We're nice and friendly. Even to the mean people. But much moreso to the friendly and new (newbies).
"ATS is a Sacred NG whose posters, since ancient times, have split the rocks of ignorance that obscure the light of knowledge and truth."
Now let's all get drunk and play ping pong!
On a more serious note: Of course you are right. I don't think Bill intended to sound like he was adressing only a small group of people, I think he was just disappointed to find that he doesn't recognize the many new people here and that many of the old regulars have moved on.
It's like going away for a year, and then when you return home, your parents have re-decorated your room, sold your stuff and you find a guy named Al living there as a tenant.
I know it's a bad simile, but I excel at presenting bad similes!
That's cool. I'm just concerned that a few people might actually feel left out. I made a post like this a while back, and kicked myself afterwards... because I realized I couldn't list everyone's name. Still, Surly (for example) was great for the group, as was Stephen Houchen. I miss them particularly because I interacted with them a lot. And where has Michael Nusair been, too?! Aw, crap. Here I go again... :)
How 'bout a bad smilie? Naw, too easy <|^} Yeah. I agree. It's difficult; but I'll make the effort to interact with more folks--especially those just returning--in the future. Hell; maybe we should organize an ATS welcoming committee!
Just realize that Ben Robinson, Don Del Grande, and a recently resurfaced Dave Hall have been here forever, and they're a steadying force. And, as AcK! points out, some people just get busy with things... even real life.
=v= I subscribed minutes after a.t.s was newgrouped, and I remember the first chalkboard thread. I haven't been a steady contributor, though; there was so much traffic here for a few years that I had to drop off and spend a little time being a productive member of society.
=v= I do miss some of the "old timers" (da-a-a-a-gnabbit!!!). El Bairdo was one heck of a great guy. Raymond Chen was my hero, because he could transcribe Lisa's sax solos.
=v= It's true. I used to pull pranks like screaming real loud in the middle of the night when they were trying to sleep, and filling up diapers with poop. I've moved on to slighly more mature tactics since then, though.
=v= I was so taken with Matt Groening's "annoy Republicans"
remark that it became an a.t.s memelet in those early years.
I think it was even explained in the original FAQ. .-. .-.
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I've been watching Woody Allen films. Nonstop. I can't believe I've only discovered him so recently. He is a GENIUS, by the way.
And then in a week or so, it's off to the middle east (for two weeks). Hopefully I won't get shot or blown up. And then, University. Woooo. Which will leave me with lots of time to post. Sure -- I *should* be studying. But that's for chumps.
And if the bastards in my dorm don't want to watch the Simpsons, I will kill them. All of them.
You mean that 80's comedy with Val(ium) Kilmer? If it's knicked from that movie, it was purely coincidental and unintentional. I dunno, 'cause I haven't seen it in a looooong time.
Remember one quote though:
-Have you ever seen a body like that before in your life? -She happens to be my daughter. -Oh, okay. Then, I guess you have.
That's ridiculous, and I'm quite insulted. I'm not being inclusive in the least. That's why I'm still _here_ despite the fact that the people I conversed with regularly for a year and a half are gone. I _liked_ those people; to pretend that I didn't like them more than I do others is more daunting to free thought than saying I don't like all people equallywould be to 'free correspondence.' And I didn't tap all those Morse code messages to the Allies 'til my shoes filled with blood to just roll out the welcome mat for the Reds.
-- An XPeeple Production -- "As a child, I always wanted to bite his head off. This is my way of doing that... creatively." -Andy Dick as Marylin Manson "Most critics want to be authors, screenwriters and novelists, [but] they just suck." -Joe Rogan
On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 11:55:25 GMT, "The Rack" wrote:
Cliques? I guess I can't accept that definition of what can happen, especially in a.t.s., because for me that term is forever associated with backstabbing high school girls...
Must have been nice to have girls in your high school.. :-(
-- An XPeeple Production -- "As a child, I always wanted to bite his head off. This is my way of doing that... creatively." -Andy Dick as Marylin Manson "Most critics want to be authors, screenwriters and novelists, [but] they just suck." -Joe Rogan
Girls were imported for the school plays, but I never hung out with _that_ crowd. We also had one girl for the mock trial team, even though it called for two female parts (guess who had to take the second one).
-- An XPeeple Production -- "As a child, I always wanted to bite his head off. This is my way of doing that... creatively." -Andy Dick as Marylin Manson "Most critics want to be authors, screenwriters and novelists, [but] they just suck." -Joe Rogan
(The apostrophe is taken out for aesthetic reasons.)
-- An XPeeple Production -- "As a child, I always wanted to bite his head off. This is my way of doing that... creatively." -Andy Dick as Marylin Manson "Most critics want to be authors, screenwriters and novelists, [but] they just suck." -Joe Rogan
Speaking for myself, there's only so many times that Homer's Funniest Lines threads can bring a smile to my face.
The newsgroup is doing just fine and dandy, good to see that there are still people here that share the same sense of humor as the show, and it's an honor to finally be around long enough to be thought of as a part of the 'good old days' of ats.
A UK poster once wrote that Snuh would be looked upon as the death of this newgroup, I guess it's fair to say enough time has passed to judge that as not true.
=v= Only because they cut back on their activities. In the name
of Nonviolence, Understanding, and Helping, I hope it remains
that way. One person *can* make a difference, but most of
the time they probably shouldn't.
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=v= I thought it was the old "Floor Pie" thread that (*******)
would kill this newsgroup, but apparently not. :^| (*********)
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One sec, I have a call...Mike Rotch! Mike Rotch! Hey, has anybody seen Mike Rotch lately?
I had thought it was the group of unthinking drones that were stuck in such a mindnumbingly predictable pattern of snuh/attack/snuh/attack/penises/attack/snuh/rectum/attack/ that would kill this newsgroup, but apparently not.
There was also the immortal "Our Teens Suck Cock Like Animals! They Can't Get Enough MEAT!" thread, and the Ondre movie titles..
-- An XPeeple Production -- "As a child, I always wanted to bite his head off. This is my way of doing that... creatively." -Andy Dick as Marylin Manson "Most critics want to be authors, screenwriters and novelists, [but] they just suck." -Joe Rogan
Oh, I was quite the poster in my day! I was responsible for lots of important stuff, like....uh, umm....and then there was the.....hmmmm....yeah, and....uhh....I was one of the original Snuh?ers (I did Xuh?!)! Which was one of the things that eventually ended up annoying me to leave in the first place...hmph. I got nothin'.
I remember it well. The year was 1997. It was a tumultuous time for our newsgroup. A male model with an MBA engaged us in a debate about the fine distinctions between "Friends" and The Simpsons. Bill Oakley and Josh Weinstein left OFF to conquer Hollywood. And a Simpsons fan named Ben Collins made his first post: a link to the FAQ. ======================== Ben Collins [email] ======================== George W. Bush Quote of the Week: "Our nation must come together to unite." (6/4/2001)