More Season 9-10 Reviews (by TheAbman)

Oct 11, 2001, 2:59 AM ET8 posts by 5 posters
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TheAbman

Here are the rest of the reviews, continuing from my previous post "Seasons 9-10: A Look Back at the Decline."

King of the Hill This episode was involving, fun, sweet, well-written, and charming, with great characterization of Homer. Nice breath of fresh air after some of the previous episodes. The first act at the picnic is a delight, with great scenes involving CBG, Lovejoy, Burns. Homer losing Capture the Flag is probably one of the funniest scenes ever. However, I think the whole Powersauce thing should have been either funnier, more connected to the plot, or just thrown out. Homer climbing the mountain is a nice adventure story. (B)

Lost Our Lisa This episode has a lot of nice touches to it: Lisa acts devious and tricks her dad into letting her ride the bus, Homer actually has a LOT of good scenes as SNPP, the ending which actually supports the moral of risktaking (as opposed to what we'd expect in a typical sitcom: importance of safety), Springfield's Russian district, Lisa and Homer bonding yet again. Not a spectacular episode, but a nice one. (B)

Natural Born Kissers Although it seemed sophomoric and juvenile when I first watched it, this episode has become a favorite of mine (at least compared to other episodes from the Scully Era). The episode deals with sex and nudity with surprising thoughtfulness and innocence, and at the same time has a really wacky, fast-paced, hilarious plot twist with lots of visual gags (Homer's butt on the crystal cathedral, Homer and Marge hiding their bodies behind the lawn ornaments). Some very awkward moments, like Homer and Marge trying to spice up their sex life on their anniversary night, and the scene where they're caught in the windmill by the townspeople keep this episode from an even higher grade. (B)

Lard of the Dance This was a low as far as Lisa episodes go. Lisa has never been less funny or more annoying. In this episode, she's a tool of unfunny preachiness about how it's better to be a kid than to be a snob. I really couldn't relate to Lisa's dilemma at all. Homer's scheme is possibly the lamest he's ever come up with. More painful was the way this episode was concluded, by trying to force-jam Homer's grease selling rehash with the main plot, and magically solving everyone's problem. (D)

Season 9 overall: When season 9 first came out, it was a great disappointment after the decent season 8. The writing went pretty much down the toilet, it became a bit more juvenile, and for the first time, I occasionally hated the main characters. But the stories were still pretty interesting, and the humor still crisp.

Wizard of Evergreen Terrace Some really great writing, like Homer's mid-life crisis and the conclusion, as well as some really poor writing, like the 2nd act, balance to make a perfectly mediocre episode. (C)

Bart the Mother A nice episode that has 2 stories parallel to each other. One is about Marge forgiving Bart because that's her role as a mom. This story was down-to-earth (great dialogue between Bart and Nelson) and sweet. The other is about Bart wanting to protect his lizards that he raised despite their danger to society. This story was more ironic and darkly satirical of the dangers of human involvement on the ecosystem. It was a creative approach to the episode; I liked the scene where Bart tells Marge that he doesn't think they're monsters, and Marge backs him up, although a lot of people thought it was sappy. (B)

Treehouse of Horror 9 Quite a hilarious Halloween episode, but not all that scary. I liked the first act the best; good writing, good complete storyline, and very funny. The second act is extremely exciting and fast-paced exaggeration of cartoon humor, but it eventually gets too illogical (Lisa actually saves Bart by pressing the rewind button??). The third act is a funny, lighthearted short, even though it's about rape. (B)

When You Dish Upon a Star Another boring Homer gets a job episode, with terribly unfunny use of guest stars whom no one cares about. Homer acted completely despicable, uncovering the celebrities' secret, then actually BLAMING them. Were we supposed to feel sorry for him? The only redeeming moments are the very beginning (Homer's dream sequence) and the very ending (Ron Howard does it again). (D)

D'oh in the Wind Another boring Homer-gets-a-job-and-fails-through-idiocy episode. Well, at least this episode did a surprisingly decent job at dealing with its subject matter. Things like the hallucination scenes, George Carlin, the freakout, the mural of Homer, flashback to the Woodstock concert, the tripped-up end credits, music, and lots of other little details add up to the episode's charm. Nothing really deep or biting, but it's a nice look at how some people are still stuck in the 60's. And I liked the way Homer's mom tied in to the story. Homer himself is sometimes amusing (trying to freak out the town) and sometimes obnoxious (his behavior at the dinner table, standing up to the police and getting shot). (C+)

Lisa Gets an A The best episode of season 10. Lisa is well-written; her addiction to video games and subsequent dilemma is entirely believable and funny. And Homer's subplot with Pinchy is really cute. Add to that, commentary about the school system that doesn't get as run into the ground as in PTA Disbands, and an ironic ending in which the school itself resorts to cheating, and you get a winner. (B+)

Homer Simpson in Kidney Trouble I've spent years wondering why people hate this episode. It's not great but it's not any worse than a lot of the Scully Era garbage. Most episodes these days begin with the Simpsons visiting some place random, and Bloodbath Gulch was one of the funniest of these trips in recent memory. The rest of the episode had a scattering of amusing gags (for example, Homer's love of reading…the TV guide, the hospital reinforcing that Homer might die), the scene at Moe's has many LOL lines in a row, and the writing wasn't bad. Homer's conflict is pretty superficial. But I still didn't mind when Homer wussed out of the operation the first time. It gave the episode a twist and made me wonder what would happen next. The episode then takes a surreal tone, which probably turned off most people, but I still found it at least a little funny when Homer meets the Lost Souls and they banish him. What I didn't like at all is that Homer, who we think has learned his lesson, runs away a SECOND time, only to get conveniently hit by a car. This is really meanspirited and manipulative ending, and lowers the grade a bit. Still, I thought it was a funny enough episode, though it didn't live up to its potential as an emotional, serious, meaningful episode. (C)

Mayored to the Mob This action/adventure episode comes close to getting too wacky and out-of-bound, but there's more discipline here than in, say, Joy of Sect. Quimby acts like his usual self (bribing the townspeople, not wanting to spend a night with the wife). The sci-fi scene is another great Simpson outing. (B+)

Viva Ned Flanders This episode works as decent buddy episode. For once, Flanders actually feels inferior to Homer and seeks out his help, and this time Homer isn't the one acting mean and aggressive to Flanders. I didn't think that ruined Flanders' character as some people have said. I didn't even mind that Flanders revealed he was 60, cause it followed the idea that each episode starts from scratch (the writers just wanted to give us obsessive fans a much-needed reminder). The trip to Las Vegas is all right, but not extremely funny. Good use of freeze frame gags, and Las Vegas is portrayed as an extremely immoral and corrupt city, not exactly what Flanders was looking for. The ending where Flanders and Homer are eventually closed in on by angry casino employees is a good example of a logical progression into an absurd ending. (B-)

Wild Barts Can't Be Broken Another episode that deals with the kids. As you'd expect, it gets a little juvenile, such as when Nelson sings about farting, or Milhouse reveals his love for Teletubbies. But most of the episode has a semi-original concept (kids vs. adults), and there was some interesting stuff going on (Homer suddenly gains faith in his team after they end u in the finals, the kids are blamed for the adults' vandalism, Homer's Night Out, similarity between the movie the kids watch and what happens to them). Nothing very impressive; the episode lingers in the thin line between creativity and childishness. I don't like the song very much though. But the ending, where the senior citizens place a curfew on everyone else is IMO good irony. (B)

Sunday, Cruddy Sunday I don't mind a fun episode, I really enjoyed Mayor to the Mob and Homer the Vigilante, but this episode was not fun. How about obnoxious, undisciplined, and crazy? The only this peisode has going for it is a scattering of good gags (Clinton in the voice-dubbing, Rupert Murdoch getting the football players to spell out a greeting, few others). But this episode isn't really offensive as other wacky episodes from seasons 11-12 (like Kill the Alligator And Run and Simpson Safari). Just really bland. (C-)

Homer to the Max Meta-humor has gotten kind of old on the show. It doesn't have the kind of zing it used to, yet the writers continue to rely on meta-humor. A lot of the self-references (such as Largo's appearance, and Flanders' voice being replaced) just felt strangely familiar. That said, this was a pretty good episode. It was a very original concept, well-developed, and funny. The ending is strange and wandering, but not necessarily bad. (B-)

I'm With Cupid In the tradition of season 10, this was another light-hearted episode with a frivolous conflict. As for the beginning, it was reminiscent of humor from the older seasons, the way Marge reinforces Bart's procrastination. The scene at Apu's apartment is a classic one. When Apu plays the Indian pop record, and it sounds cacophonous, until he adjusts it, that's a great satire of our stereotypical view of other cultures, the kind of humor we'd get later in Thirty Minutes Over Tokyo. (Indian pop music has gotten a lot of western influence, but not to that extent!) And Homer's comment about the Kama Sutra ("They stole our idea!") is classic. Homer got it the wrong way around. The second act is pretty amusing, with a lot of good one-liners by Homer. "Mmm, sweet mint julep" and "Everyone's marriage is falling apart. You see the problem is communication. Too much communication." (He may be actually right about that.) Homer was one a roll in this episode. Apu's gifts to his wife were sweet and enjoyable to watch. I always liked doing that kind of stuff when asking girls to school dances. The biggest problem was the third act, which was pretty mean-spirited, senseless, and go-nowhere, complete with a forced guest appearance and Homer endangering someone else's life. The third act really ruins the rest of the episode. (B-)

Marge Simpson in Screaming Yellow Honkers Directionless, unexciting storyline, although the writers must have thought that Marge the road-rager a compelling, cool idea. Despite weakly executed ideas such as Marge developing road rage and rhinoceroses attacking the Simpsons, a lot of fine jokes make this episode tolerable. I liked Krabappel's performance, the road rage video, the sibling rivalry between Bart and Lisa, etc. Most of the humor was pretty formulaic. (C-)

Make Room For Lisa Why this episode doesn't work on an emotional level: Lisa decides in the end that it's OK for Homer to be a jerk if he shows an interest in what she's interested in. Touche. In some ways, this episode is OK because Lisa learns that she does owe her parents some respect, and that they don't have to share her interests for her to love them. Inn some ways this episode doesn't work, because the ending I described doesn't justify the episode, because Homer goes beyond someone who has interests differing from her daughter, and is instead someone who is totally unlikeable and braindead throughout a lot of unfunny scenes in this episode. An emotional episode must have a likeable character, and neither Homer nor Lisa was very likeable. (C)

Maximum Homerdrive Jerkass Homer the truck driver is about as mundane as the writers can get. Too many jokes (i.e. Homer wanting divorce, the truck driver dying) were just too unsuitable for a show like The Simpsons. And some of the jokes about truck drivers were rather, to put it nicely, esoteric for me. (D+)

Simpson Bible Stories A bit too tame, and not iconoclastic enough, but it's sure better than crappy-ass Tall Tales. This episode, which had the Simpsons acting out Bible characters, was a decent parody (Milhouse as Moses is good casting, and turning David and Goliath into an action flick was neat, but a little tame) with good religious satire (for example, when Eve says "How long can God hold a grudge?" and Lovejoy's reply). Tall Tales, on the other hand, seemed like an excuse to put the Simpsons in wild, fantastical situations. (B-)

Mom and Pop Art Though it's another bland Homer-gets-a-job-and-fails-episode, this episode works pretty well as an insightful episode with some nice commentary of famous works of art. I wish that the conflict of Marge's jealousy of Homer's success should have been more of a focus in the episode. The bedtime scene between them is great, but the conflict is forgotten and Marge tries to help Homer become an artist, then in the end, she says he's a good artist. It's almost like the writers didn't think Marge's problems mattered. The ending straddles on the thin line between being touching and being absolutely absurd. (B-)

They Saved Lisa's Brain Homer acting like a monkey in the riot, even though it's been done to death, was so perfectly executed in this episode that I crack up at it every time. Also great is Stephen Hawkings' guest appearance. But the rest of the episode is quite bland. Lisa flourishing in MENSA is a somewhat shallow treatment of her character; why would she actually enjoy the company of those weirdos. This episode is observational of the intellectual culture (classical music in the background, palindromes, Renaissance days) but not really satirical. It's kind of like HOMR. Once the MENSA people take control of the town, the results are interesting with an actual moral to the story (that's rare these days). (C+)

Monty Can't Buy Me Love This episode has the season 11-12 tendency of trying hard to piss me off. Lenny injured by a coin, the bad Howard Stern parody, the senseless appearance of the Loch Ness Monster, all shocked me greatly back then (but I've gotten used to it by now). The rest isn't too bad. I couldn't help but be amused at some of the far-out situations in this episode - Burns kidnapping Frink, Willy meeting his parents, Homer being honored instead of Burns, Arthur Fortune's life accomplishments. This episode is good for some lighthearted laughs, but there's nothing deep or exciting about the episode. Why does Burns pair with Homer? Homer's appearance was pointless. It was far more interesting 2 years before when Burns paired up with Lisa. (C)

The Old Man and the C Student As usual for season 10, there's another barely amusing, but formulaic and recycled comedic theme, this time about the retirement house. Nothing special at all, with a tagged on unfunny Titanic parody. (C-)

Thirty Minutes Over Tokyo This was the last decent episode about the Simpsons going on a trip, focusing more on intelligent commentary than wackiness. I think this is a very well-done look at how certain Asian countries have become westernized and modernized, sometimes in a very warped way. America Town was the best example, as well as some other jokes. Lisa wanting to do something Japanese is interesting, proving that it's sometimes futile to go to another country and expect to do something cultural and demonsrating satire on our perceptions of Japanese culture, and should have been more of the episode's focus. The writers obviously did their research on Japan. (Whereas in Kill The Alligator, the only research the writers did on Florida is that it's called America's Wang.) And the first act is yet another fun look at the Simpsons' poor financial condition. But it's not a great episode, because we're right on the brink of horrible season 11, so the episode basically commits suicide with lame gags like penny in the hand, seizure robots, Homer attacking the emperor, Homer pooping on TV. (B-)

Season 10 overall: This season was less satisfying than any of the previous ones, not because it was offensively wacky. The characters were still there, and the writers still attempted to write a solid plot with jokes well-integrated into the story. The main problem this season was excessive use on formulas. Homer was used way too often, usually in a plot about how he gets a job and then fails because he's such an idiot. Much of the humor had a strong sense of deja-vu, and the episodes just weren't that interesting. This is a pretty lighthearted, frivolous season, without any real dark episodes. One interesting thing was that the 3 other Scully seasons each had 5 or 6 bad episodes, but the AABF season only had one bad episode (Maximum Homerdrive).

I'd appreciate any comments. I especially enjoy disagreements!

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Very good reviews. I�m a little too busy this weekend to comment each episode but I pretty much agree with your opinion (not always but very often.)

Just a few short comments:

I was especially interested in what you said about Lisa and her role as "bitchass". It�s sad but true. I�m a Lisa fan but I have to agree with you - the Scully era had a lot of character distortion not only for Homer (but he�s the worst example) but also for Lisa. They made her a stereotypical mini adult, often annoying, egoistic, even aggresive and with an "I�m so smart and you�re all idiots" attitude and that attitude destroyed much of her old self as 8-year old child. Episodes like "Bart Star" (IMO very bad Lisa character handling in the football scene) or "Lisa The Skeptic" or "Girly Edition" are good examples. There were some better episodes like "Lisa Gets an A" (as you alreay said) but not many, it was extremly bad in season 11 (well, everything was extremly bad in season 11.)

A classic example of good characterization after seasons 1 - 3 is always "Lisa The Iconoclast" where she understood that there�s more than her own opinion, where she understood that egoism and telling the truth would be the wrong way and where she was way more real than in most of the stereotypical I-have-to-complain episodes from the Scully years. Even "Lisa The Treehugger" with its pretty decent characterization had some flaws like her speech "I�m not dead and neither is my sense of moral outrage" - the usual stereotypical attitude again. I don�t like it.

I also agree with what you said about Homer and "The Ultimate Jerkass" in episodes like "Trash of the Titans" and also some others. "Trash" has certainly some of the worst examples of intentionally mean Homer behaviour and character distortion. A really awful scene is the one where he is at the U2 concert and there�s a woman who tells him that he isn�t allowed to be behind the stage. Homer just looks at her and then kicks her brutally with his foot out of the screen. Very very bad stuff.

To sum up your general opinion from the reviews (correct me if I�m wrong): the major weaknesses of seasons 9 and 10 and the true reasons why they were the "transition years from the classic era to the crappy era" is that there was too much slapstick, too much sitcom feeling, too many meaningless and overdone wacky adventures, too much character distortion and character "flattening" and also too forced storylines, too little radical content and serious satire and an often too light-hearted style and complete neglect of dark and emotional sides of the story. Plus there were too many episodes in that style and thus we had again a loss of balance, not only in single episodes but in entire seasons.

That�s exactly my opinion and I think it�s correct and justified. If you want to see not only simple fun and empty slapstick but satire and dark stuff (and I love dark and serious character episodes) and also things like subtlety, symbolism, deeper meaning, intelligence etc many of the new episodes are just empty and meaningless cartoon mainstream. Alas, many of the new fans and the fun lovers don�t understand that. Whatever, there were some better episodes in season 9 and 10 so season 10 is the last season I�d count as almost real Simpsons season. Season 11 was clearly worse than 10.

To come to an end: very good reviews and very often close to my own opinion. Thanks :-).

Chris

P.S. Sorry, no long episode review by me this weekend. I�m too busy to write a good one. Maybe I�ll write one during the week or next weekend.

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You know, the scene where Homer alternatively talks to himself and the dog (while trying to psych himself up to go jogging) really had a good, classic feel to it. There was some emotional conflict there, and it was funny as well. It reminded me of the best of Season 2, where Homer shows how willing his spirit, and how weak his flesh. It's this self-conflict, trying to make himself a better person, that we never see much anymore.

The episode overall was funny as well.

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I liked this one a lot. Homer's concern for Lisa supercedes all, despite his penchant for buying a King Tut hat and pyramid popsicle at a museum gift shop (LOL). I don't know if I've laughed harder than when he buys the balloons, then offers them to the construction worker. "I'm not normally a praying man; but, if you're up there, SAVE ME SUPERMAN!"

It's intriguing to see how these characters react/feel about nudity and sex. Marge, we would expect, would be quite the prude. Very "interesting" is that she has much fewer hangups than the stereotype prude would. This facet of Marge is always interesting; from the time when she said she enjoys a bit of wildness [7G09] to her appreciation of Michelangelo's David [7F09]. Plus, you gotta admit, Homer seems a bit funnier when he's naked.

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Those just about my exact thoughts. At the time here on ATS, I think I really harshly criticized new writer Jane O'Brien. (The first and only time I ever did that). I wish I hadn't done that. But, the episode was just weak. It relied on blunt language ("hog anus") and bad visual gags (Homer's eye pops out; Homer's "tail" wags; Willie beats up Homer) for the humor. There were some good lines "My retirement grease!", but by and large... it unnaturally characterized Lisa as the "miniature adult" (as Chris calls her) -- someone with enough perspective to realize that being a kid is important. Kids don't ever think that way. Lisa certainly has many insecurities, but they were not there in 5F20; it's like she garnered this invincible, correct perspective just to provide plot conflict. The real Lisa would question herself and internalize the conflict with Alex, before ever confronting Alex directly.

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I think the ending worked out fine -- but that's just because they got the ending first, and "worked backward" (to quote a "Charles Bronson voice" clerk we all know).

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It was really quite good. I don't understand much of the criticism about [5F22].

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Nice way to put it. If anything, we see the selfish (what others have termed) "jerkass" from beginning to end. He didn't get any comeuppance, and even makes a boorish call to "Rose" from Titanic at the end. Homer's goofing around, esp. while parasailing, and his arrogant rant (I want to soar higher than anyone has ever soarn!) are traces of that "wild, reckless abandon" approach that I described in the other post. This feel would take over many episodes in Season 11, especially.

The Yogi Bear parody was excellent; the end was very good.

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The training video was a hoot. Any creative touch like that deserves a nod.

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It was a really good episode, but I'm not sure I'd call it the best. I haven't thought about that. The really weird feel at the end, where Homer cries as he devours Pinchy was actually creative and fun. It makes you want to laugh and cry at the same time. Homer's hurting, and yet he keeps eating. Pretty cool.

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I feel the same way. I was surprised to see the bullseye placed on this relatively middle-of-the-road episode like it was.

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I agree. It was creative as well.

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Well... I think I'd be pretty conflicted if I were about to be sliced open for one of my organs.

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I actually took that as an unexpected plot twist. Looking back, I can see how it looks meanspirited -- but how would we expect it to resolve? The operation could have gone off as planned, and Grampa's all better. Predictable, if nothing more.

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It could have been an emotional episode, if Homer would have just decided that it was okay in the end... and forgiven Grampa. I think Homer holding on to the idea that he needs his kidney back is where the mean-spiritedness comes from. Homer not allowing Grampa to pee, on the other hand, was actually quite funny. I didn't consider that as a jerk-ass type act.

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Very enjoyable episode.

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Didn't catch that before. Nice insight.

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I don't think it did, but Flanders seemed much too much a "straight" man to Homer's comic. He was a bit joyless, even when drunk.

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That type of comment would've gotten you keelhauled by the patron saints of ATS about 4 years ago :) The dark ages are over

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Come to think of it... why wasn't there more irony about Las Vegas? I mean, there was _some_. "People dishonoring their wedding vows?! Not in LAS VEGAS!"

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The "reckless abandon" feel creeps up there near the end, but stops short of going over the edge at the very last scene... near the outskirts of the city. Homer and Ned's discussion while walking home was amusing.

I can't believe you didn't mention the funniest piece of dialogue:

Flanders: How do you do it, Homer? Homer: Do what? Flanders: How do you turn off that little voice that says "think?" Homer: You mean, Lisa?

A double-whammy joke.

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Homer: That's your problem. You're living up "here" [points to head] too much. You should be living down "here" [points lower on head] in the impulse zone.

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Well said. Painting eggs? That's what I was talking about in the post about Joe Namath, and vapor lock. Subjects of tangential interest seemingly put in as filler. I mean, we'll be repeating the quotes by Vincent Price on ATS (for kitsch value) I'm sure, but it just wasn't intrinsicly funny.

I really loved Homer's "suckering" at the hands of the wheel-balancing guys, though. A great FF gag... "Whiz with the NFL greats" (or somesuch) had me ROTFL. The "Rudy" reference was really good, and the Post Office beginning was good. And the granddaddy of it all... the "Legs" video parody... that was cool. I especially liked Harry Shearer's (as the narrator) delivery of "... we've made a few... CHANGES."

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I'm not sure I agree with that as a theme. I think once she has Homer's perspective (which was a creative idea to begin with), she learns something about herself. "Sometimes I can be a real pain in the butt." This spurs her to give more of herself to be with her father.

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I don't know. I think Homer is who he is, and Lisa found a way to approach him. She decided that Homer probably doesn't need to reach out to her, if she can reach out to him.

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Well, that was just a gag for mild shock value IMO. I found it amusing. OTOH, "feel your ass grow" is one of those on the surface "hilarious" comments that is as cotton candy as they get. Without the semi-shocking (and apparently hilarious) word "ass", the line is a yawner. Many of the lines by the truckers were like that. That said, I liked the episode more than you did. The satirical "Slaughterhouse" restaurant was a good touch.

Just about EVERYTHING is better than "Tall Tales" :)

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I actually quite liked it. Homer as king Solomon was a hoot. Some of the gags (esp. the heiroglyphic chalkboard gag) in the middle segment were good. But how can I dislike an episode with nudity? >:) The writing in the first segment was pretty snappy, as well.

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I enjoyed CBG's appearances in this episode, much more than those in Seasons 11 & 12.

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Homer playing pinball. A note: people stuck on continuity didn't appreciate Willie meeting his parents since "his father was hung for stealin' a pig". But, I thought it was cool (I'm not hung up on continuity).

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IMO, a very good episode.

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Well, I liked the seizure robots and Homer attacking the emperor. TV's influence is present in both gags (actual seizure causing cartoons from Japan, WWF wrestling), and the family demonstrates once again that they are (happily) controlled by it.

I especially liked the non-chalant Godzilla reference at the end. Lisa's eyes are fluttering shut, not a care in the world, as Godzilla man-handles (monster-handles?) the airplane. Why? Because she is reassured that it's just Godzilla-related turbulence. It's also a comment on how perception is bigger than reality, for Americans. For all some people (the dumbasses :) know, Godzilla is very real -- and lives in Japan. Putting Godzilla in the story pokes fun at the dependence of Americans on pop-culture (movies, TV) for our education. The general public may not know what a Kabuku play is, but they do know that Godzilla is Japanese. Godzilla in the story is like the writers saying... "Yeah. Godzilla exists...", as they struggle to hold back their giggles. The funny thing is that some people could be fooled, and believe it. Those who are not fooled, laugh. It's the stereotypes that are always established as FACTS in a satire, and then -- through sarcasm -- they are destroyed.

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Sorry it took me so long to finish my response to your response. I was busy studying for an exam that I probably failed anyway. I'll fail out by next semester and be back to posting ATS. Damn grade-deflated university.

Really? I'll have to check that out on Google's usenet archive. :)

That was cut off in syndication. Roar.

"Did you get that at the souvenir shop?" "No, the security guard is passing them out." LOL.

Maybe, but it was done MUCH better in Homer's Triple Bypass.

Hehe. I never noticed it before, but you're right. I used to come out of this board really depressed each time I'd read it. For those of you who weren't around ATS during the dark ages, here's a sample critique:

"There's very little to say about this episode at all, aside from the fact that it's riddled with continuity errors. Janey's voice is wrong. Homer's age is _35_, not 38. Homer's dealing with Bart's getting beaten up is COMPLETELY inconsistent with "Bart The General". And Moe has SO had a woman in his establishment since 1979. Furthermore, I don't believe that's even the real Drederick Tatum."

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Actually, I meant that as a good thing. I once posted that when writers use this kind of logical progression, and save the wackiness for the ending, it's far more effective than just random, continuous wackiness, like in the Safari episode.

You seem to like those jokes, where someone says something completely different from what you'd expect. This was a real good example.

I loved that scene. Once, my older brother was suckered by them, and my dad was very upset at him. The same day, this episode aired in syndication, and me and my bro really cracked up. Good funny-cause-it's-true humor.

I think Lisa's main problem in this episode wasn't just a conflict of interests, Homer was basically walking over Lisa, giving away her room, not letting her do her homework, etc. In the ending, I don't know if Lisa should just give in to him again. But then again, Homer IS the father, and I guess he is nice to take Lisa where she wants. Hmm.

I didn't get it. The line just came out of nowhere. However, I did like the joke in Take My Wife Sleaze when Homer is SO reluctant to dance that he overreacts and threatens divorce.

Worst Episode Ever was really funny.

So you're saying that the seizure gag is kind of like the endings of "Dial Z for Zombies" and "Joy of Sect"? With the family losing their minds to TV. Interesting thought. I personally felt it was a kind of silly gag, as if the family suffering seizures was inherently funny. I could understand the WWF joke, just didn't click with me. I guess different jokes click with different people.

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Maybe you're right, I like your critique. But perhaps you may be overanalyzing it too much. Isn't it possible that the writers were just being silly? :) BTW, I remember you responded to my previous review of this same episode. After reading your response, praising the episode, I liked the episode a bit more. I originally gave it a C.

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Sorry. I've forgotten the context of the original message. I'm not even sure what we were talking about :(

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Ditto. :(

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Well, Homer's life was at stake. It's much harder to be sliced open when you're healthy. This conflict forces Homer to think of someone other than himself. IMO most people are bothered that he didn't just jump to the inevitable conclusion, and "do the right thing". That would have been pretty predictable. I mean, we WANT Homer to give Grampa a kidney; but, IMO we shouldn't call Homer a jerkass because he didn't fall in line there. It's not bad characterization, IMO. It was a way to provide some surprise, and continue the conflict. It's not like Homer wanted Grampa to die.

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Yeah, I remember that kind of junk :( And to those old-time posters turned lurkers who may have been this anal, I say: "Hey, how are ya?" :) Remember me, the ol' "reformed troll?"

I got irritated at the nit-pickiness and anal retentiveness, although to be fair, the frequency of intelligent conversation was much higher than now. It just got to the point where it was wearying to respond day in, day out to 15 KB posts point-for-point with folks like Ondre when, in reality, we had somewhat the same opinions of the show. The arguments often became petty and pointless, assigning WAY too much importance to something as simple as a TV show. Splitting hairs as we did, I'm not surprised the Simpsons writers mocked us as they tried to do.

I left for a few years to create a Simpsons website--which also became WAY too unimportant to spend so much time on. Plus, it was shut down :)

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Without splitting hairs here <g> I'll just say that IMO there's no black-and-white wacky or un-wacky. It comes down to what you like in an episode. There's a point at which we ditch reality completely, from the satirical, exaggerated world. When one no longer recognizes what's going on, and the episode slips too far into fantasy, the frame of reference is lost.

IMO the best humor always has a strong frame of reference. When a passenger train slams into a car and pushes it for miles down the train tracks, for me, it's not funny--because it's too far into the fantasy world and not close enough to even "satirical" reality.

The exception to the rule would be references to movies, or something else that provides *some* frame of reference. For example, if that train-pushing thing had happened in a movie or something, it would have been an opportunity for parody and some mockery.

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Not just characters "saying" things. It's called a "switcheroo" by many comedy writers. A good switcheroo joke often helps keep the plot fresh and unpredictable.

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Homer's problems seem to stem from his self-centered philosophy. He probably doesn't realize how self-centered he is (I've learned this perspective from my personal life), and he probably doesn't even think of himself as a jerk. That is illustrated vividly in "Homer's Enemy", where despite his best efforts and concerns, he is still a jerk. Grimes doesn't grasp the fact that Homer can't often help himself, or doesn't recognize this facet of self-centeredness in himself.

We certainly appreciate when Homer can overcome this tendency to be self-centered, like when he gives his air conditioner money (twice) to buy Lisa a saxophone. I think we need to understand, however, that this Homer can only keep making these types changes if he goes back to being self-centered in the next episode. If Homer's character just kept incrementally getting nicer and less jerky, we'd soon have another Ned Flanders. Homer's struggles against himself provide the best basis for stories (in Homer episodes). Without any flaws, we'd have Ozzie Nelson--not Homer Simpson.

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It wasn't bad. "Don't you have any friends?" "Well... the Super Friends".

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That could be one aspect of it. But IMO it wasn't just physical humor. It did reference an actual Japanese element in that cartoon -- if nothing else.

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It was just white-bread American culture (WWF) meets Japanese culture (sumo), and Homer reacts within his frame of reference. "Sumo Wrestling = Pro Wrestling"

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Well, it's at least another Japanese culture reference. The clue that something is being mocked is Lisa's non-chalance. Lisa is a barometer for the show that lets us know when something is out-of-place. (There's no cane in Citizen Kane!) By her non-chalant acceptance of Godzilla, who is really shaking the plane, we know that the Godzilla reference is one of those "let's fool 'em" jokes. I laughed; the ridiculousness of trying to fool the audience into thinking that Godzilla could grab your plane if you go to Japan was enough. I'm sure the writers knew that most people would understand that, but there could be a small group of idiots who would believe it. "The reality in Japanese movies = The reality in Japan".

Movie & TV culture is sarcastically held up as a beacon of truth. The more intelligent among us recognize those people whose only education comes from pop culture, and we love to mock them.

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It's nice to have new perspectives. IMO discussions here are worth nothing if we can't open our minds to new perspectives. Four years ago, I would have mocked the idea that strong characters are needed to make the show great. I thought it was all about stereotype characters. Now, I see how satire relates to strong characters, and how a character's humanity makes him/her stronger.

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I like Lard of the Dance, if only due to Lisa Kudrow's role. I think a D is harsh. I would give it a B or B-. It's got one of my favorite lines also:

"Here comes the greaseball!" "Hey! Luigi brings you guys free pizza. Why you gotta make a da fun, uh?"

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The writers are fearful of the violent powers of MENSA and did not want to incur their wrath by satirizing them.

Think about it.

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