"Simpsons Lite" (Was: Review: CABF18 [TRUCKASAURUS])

Dec 5, 2001, 12:56 PM ET8 posts by 4 posters
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Ted S.

Somebody claiming to be [email] (The Rack) wrote in news:[email]:

But I think you're missing something here. A lot of us on the NG seem to like this episode not because it's "Simpsons Lite", to use your term. I'd posit the reason we like it is that it harkens back to the tradition of the great episodes of seasons gone by (the first eight seasons). I, like you, enjoyed 5F13 "This Little Wiggy". And I think the reason I like such episodes is that they've got coherent plots which aren't overtaken by bizarreness and Jerk*ss Homer; plus, they've got some intelligence to them. Episodes from later seasons which fit this bill would be "Bart's Night Out" and "Wild Barts Can't Be Broken", except that these two fall into one of the terrible traps of later seasons -- the Stupid Climactic Musical Number. Homer is at his best when he's trying to do things in a well-intentioned way but fails (as in his disciplining Bart in "Bart's Night Out", trying to renew his love life in "Natural Born Kissers", or helping Burns and Gloria in CABF18; even the commenting on the odd fortunes isn't a sign of Jerk*ss Homer -- it's the sort of thing you could expect the cast of Seinfeld to do, which is ironic considering that Julia Louis-Dreyfus was the guest star), not when he's being a schmuck ("Trash of the Titans", "Homer Simpson in Kidney Trouble", or even the ending of "Last Tap Dance in Springfield", an otherwise enjoyable episode). And these "Simspons Lite" episodes are giving us the non-Jerk*ss Homer.

Other good things about the "Simspons Lite" episodes are that the plots are reasonably realistic and intelligent. Not like, "Saddlesore Galactica" with the jockey trolls, or "Maximum Homerdrive" with the auto-driver, the episode which Homer's web-site which has a parody of "The Prisoner", "Simpsons Safari" with the diamond-mining monkeys, or the ending of "Homer the Moe". CABF18 had a believable plot (Homer helps Burns find true love), stuck to that believability, and gave us some intelligent humor at the same time (you only chuckled at Homer and Marge's implied sex scene, I found it hilarious -- although whether it would have been better to include a wide- eyed Maggie sucking her pacifier is a topic that can be debated).

The "Simpsons Lite" episodes also don't gratuitously use guest stars. Look at "New Kids on the Blecch", a truly terrible episode which seemed written for the purpose of advertising N-Sync noise. Elton John didn't seem to serve much of a function in the Apu Loves Manjula episode (and I like Elton John's music). The better episodes either use no guest stars, or use them in a good way (not self-promotion or trying to take over the episode). (Stephen Hawking playing himself in "They Saved Lisa's Brain" is good, and the satire in that episode is excellent), the kleptomaniac Jasper Johns in "Mom and Pop Art" is quite funny, and Isabella Rosselini does a good job as the art gallery owner. By the same token, Julia Louis-Dreyfus' role in CABF18 is good, without being overstated. (Ditto for Jane Kaczmarek in "The Parent Rap", but that episode had some contrived plot devices like the judge's voice in the fiber-optic tether, or the deus ex machina, which make it somewhat worse. But that's not the guest star's fault!)

Having said that, there are some episodes which aren't "Simpsons Lite", but which are good clean entertainment and push the envelope. Examples of this would be "Trilogy of Error", "22 Short Films About Springfield", or Homer's dream sequence in "El Viajo Misterioso de Nuestro Jomer" (the latter half of that episode wasn't so great, however).

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The RackTed S.

Drunk and full of pie, Ted S. wrote:

"Hunka Hunka" certainly followed the "rules" well. Rules? The ones we fans seem to have laid down. It's an intangible feeling of mild enjoyment, but also mild disappointment here. As a group, we've certainly given the writers a litany of "don'ts" in our reviews. But, even as all these rules are politely followed, as in CABF18, the episode seems like a very timid and tenative version of the best episodes. It's like a defenseless newborn animal, that just doesn't yet have the strength and robustness of an adult. It's getting there, but it lacks the depth of the classics. There's certainly nothing wrong with it. Stronger satire, and a less perfect plot would help an episode like this. More added details would have gone a long way in helping such an episode.

"Wild Barts Can't Be Broken" was pretty good. "Bart's Night Out"? Is this an alterna-title?

He's also great when his pointedly ironic beliefs and actions blow up in his face.

His characterization was good in CABF18. All the characters were close to spot-on.

What did he do wrong there? Make the insensitive comments about the switches clearly being in the on position?

Isn't "Jerkass Homer" an old story, by now, though? Haven't we been rid of him for at least two seasons?

IMO there's really nothing wrong with any "Simpsons Lite" episode, other than an overall feeling of "paint-by-numbers" and tenativeness. They've got some good yuks, but there's nothing that really grabs you and makes you think, or makes you laugh so hard your eyes water. The plots aren't challenging; you get just what you predict. There are fewer details, and there's softer satire. "Simpsons Lite" seems like the perfect moniker--they're good Simpsons episodes; there's just not as much there.

Were they really that annoying?

Believeable, but also very easy. Nothing but the optimal happens, until the end of Act II. We go to Snake's hideout, the cops get him, Burns loses Gloria. Pretty straightforward.

Homer carrying Marge up the steps? Twas cute. Shades of [2F07] Grampa Vs. Sexual Inadequacy, if that's what we want.

I wouldn't have used the term "Simpsons" in the name "Simpsons Lite" if the episodes had anything wrong with them... other than just being "lite". Simpsons Lite episodes just have everything you expect from an episode... and LESS (to borrow a phrase from an old beer commercial). I'm with you in not liking gratuitous guest stars.

These episodes were enjoyable, and didn't cause the eye-glaze and mild chuckle reactions. Shouldn't those episodes just be termed "Simpsons"?

All of this aside--"Hunka Hunka Burns In Love" was a good episode. It didn't make a single misstep. It just didn't pack the same punch as a classic IMO. Your points about bad episodes are well taken. IMO Simpsons Lite is just a way of describing the simplest, easiest, and least fleshed out version of a good Simpsons episode that exists.

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Brian BeckThe Rack

I think he means Bart After Dark, the one where he works for the burlesque house.

Personally, I find it a lot funnier when Lisa's beliefs blow up in her face (Bart Star) or Bart the Mother

Brian

Ted S.Brian Beck

Somebody claiming to be Brian Beck wrote in news:[email]:

Yes, this was the episode I meant. For some reason, I had thought it was called "Bart's Night Out". Good episode tainted by a musical number at the end.

Ah yes -- the footballs from which a portion of the proceeds go to Amnesty International!

Of course, the Joe Namath cameo didn't do much for that episode, in my opinion -- especially his talk about "vapor lock" at the end.

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SurlyThe Rack

The Rack wrote

Yes. Yes they were.

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Ted S.Surly

Somebody claiming to be "Surly" wrote in news:OfBP7.27401$[email]:

That episode was on here today, so I watched it in order to be able to argue better about how bad it was. I had forgotten that the trolls actually do a musical number!

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SurlyTed S.

And there's that one troll that sounds *exactly* like Bart (well, maybe Bart on helium). I know it's just the same actor doing the voice, but come on... change it up a little!

Surly "All right men, this is a dangerous mission, and it's likely one of us will be killed. The landing party will consist of myself, Mr. Spock, Dr. McCoy, and Ensign Ricky."
The RackSurly

Drunk and full of pie, Surly wrote:

...or WERE they?

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Then grease me up, Surly!

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