WTF? I mean, I'm all for making fun of the French ("who took my Paris backdrop? now how am I gonna make fun of the Frogs?!) but seriously. "Freedom Fries" is the best name that people came up with? Crikey.
OT: Freedom Fries
Mar 13, 2003, 10:46 PM ET73 posts by 29 postersalt.tv.simpsons
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Yeah, I was walking down Lafayette Street the other day and thinking about how those damn French haven't ever done a single good thing for our country.
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 03:46:18 GMT, "weapon.cdn" wrote:
How about that big statue in New York? There's a few people that seem to appreciate it.
"Yeinkiijo" wrote in message news:[email]...
I think ChessPieceFace was being sarcastic.
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 03:46:18 GMT, "weapon.cdn" wrote:
I prefer "victory fries."
Or maybe "Frog-haters' taters."
"Scott Munro" <> I prefer "victory fries."
How about "I'm such an idiot that I don't even know the French in reality have nothing to do with French Fries but because I'm throwing a tantrum now because the French see things differently than me I'll make fun of them by calling them something other than French" fries?
"John Harlow" wrote in message news:Eedca.75934$3D1.3268@sccrnsc01...
now
Sounds about right John.
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 07:16:48 GMT, "efishta" wrote:
Some of you people are seriously humorless.
See why you fail at talk radio? No one wants to listen to three hours of petulant whining.
I completely see it your way now. "Frog haters taters" - that's a riot. Making fun of other people is cool and hilarious. I feel much better about myself now; my low self esteem is greatly boosted at the expense of others - thanks!
BTW: not.
WTF are you talking about? Is this place bugged again? <end transmission>
John Harlow wrote:
As a presumed Simpsons fan, it's weird for you to criticize people making fun of the French, isn't it? After all, this is the show that gave us the phrase "cheese-eating surrender monkeys", thus embiggening political discussion everywhere.
"Brian O" wrote in message news:[email]...
embiggening....I love that word!
It's positively cromulant!
"I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me" - General George S. Patton.
the Simpsons has made fun of everyone....
Jamie wrote:
Exactly. So why is one poster criticizing another poster for making fun of people? As they say on South Park, "Simpsons did it." Is it ok for the Simpsons to make fun of people but not ok for us normal folk who don't happen to produce a TV show?
"Brian O" wrote in message news:[email]...
This is real life, not a cartoon. Let's review. This = real life. Simpsons = cartoon.
When a cartoon character makes a slur, and it's the way the slur is made that's funny, it doesn't mean that it's acceptable to make a similar slur in a serious way in a discussion group. That being said, you'll draw your own stylized picture of reality, like everyone else.
"That Guy" wrote in message news:pGqda.232$[email]...
embiggening
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I don't get it, whats the difference between this so called real life and cartoons.....
That Guy wrote:
Yeah I get that thanks. But cartoon characters aren't real, therefore it's the writers, who *are* real, putting the slurs in the characters' mouths.
"Brian O" wrote in message news:[email]...
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Not at all.
That Guy wrote:
Glad that's cleared up. Froggy McGhee.
"It was like that when I got here!"
"Scott Munro" wrote in message news:[email]...
reality
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I didn't know Rush was on for three hours.
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 04:52:52 +0000, John Harlow wrote:
full ack. actions like that are considered absurd here in "old europe". I really can't believe that so many americans stand behind their president. Really I must admit that bush, his acceptance in the states, and pages like germanystinks.com and frenchstinks.com have changed my view of america a bit, although I know that there are lots of reasonable people over there, too. but this kind of hatred is not really the best advertisement for the american way of life.
just my 2 cents.
David
well said; and as an american, i agree with you. it's not so much how _many_ americans support bush; it's how vociferous his supporters have become. he's the most divisive president in recent memory (i was alive under nixon but too young to remember). many people can't stand him, myself included. -AM
"abe michaelson" wrote in message news:...
Actually, Clinton was pretty divisive too. Sex in the oval office - worth prosecuting? No - yes - maybe - wait, which party do I belong to again? Come to think of it, every president is divisive. His party loves him, the opposing party hates him. It really doesn't matter who it is or what policies he's proposing. It's so f**king predictable that it amazes me when the media breathlessly reports that "the vote was split along party lines." No sh*t, sherlock. How'd that happen?
ff
i definitely agree with the last part.
i don't think that clinton's politics were as divisive as bush's - especially not during his 2nd term. as a person, perhaps - clinton really got under republicans' skin... but his policies were pretty centrist. the odd thing, though, is that bush has this really passionate support from a lot of people. did clinton ever have that? i don't think he did. and while a lot of his supporters thought the whole kenneth starr thing was a huge waste of time and taxpayer money, they also didn't think that blowjobs from an intern was particularly presidential. so it wasn't the passionate hatred v. passionate support that's going on now. that's why i think this is a divisive presidency.
Hardly. Most presidents have passionate supporters. Even Nixon did.
As a republican, I can state that the single most annoying thing about Clinton was his ability to tell outright lies and then get away with it. Starr probably fell into this trap while investigating legitimate Clinton scandals like filegate, travelgate and Whitewater. Stymied by the inability to create enough public outrage on these subjects, Starr went for the only crime he could nail Clinton decisively on, perjury during his deposition in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Starr should have known better, but his zeal to nail Clinton got the better of him.
Disagreeing with your president does not make his presidency divisive. If it did, every president since Kennedy would fit that label.
Bush does tend to take decidedly conservative positions on many issues and he doesn't change them based on the latest polls. That's a diametrically different method of leadership than that of Bill Clinton. Bush is far more ideological than Clinton. This sometimes results in more passionate suporters and more passionate enemies. I'm certainly more passionate about GW Bush's presidency than I was for his father's. I have a passion for Ronald Reagan which could never be matched by any future president.
"I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me" - General George S. Patton.
Maybe watching some French idiot burning my president in effigy as changed my view of France a bit.
I've always wanted to ask a Frenchman to articulate his country's position on the Iraqi crisis. It seems this entire subject has drifted from substance to emotionalism.
"I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me" - General George S. Patton.
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 21:34:46 -0500, Chris� wrote:
Hey Chris, just reread you post: first you're talking about "some French idiot" after that you're complaining about the entire subject drifted from substance to emotionalism. Don't you see that antagonism? It's the Bush administration that tries to keep this whole matter on an emotional level, they are the one's to freighten their people so they can cut their rights and steer them into another useless war! Big Brother is not anymore some word, it's getting real since 911.
btw.: I'm glad to live in a democracy where the chancelor government is still elected by the people, not by 750billion oil-dollars and corrupt courts.
David
David -
David Solbach wrote:
Say, didn't the chancelor engage in a little America bashing to get elected? When did that entire subject drift from substance to emotionalism? Don't you see that anatagonism?
BTW, I'm frightened and have petitioned the government to cut my rights. Once the telescreen is installed in my house, I'll be able to rest easy again.
On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 09:36:52 +0000, Brian O wrote:
If you think saying no to a war is bashing america...well..then you're right. about 70 million germans think this war is wrong, not because they support saddam in any way but because they think about the consequences. That doesn't mean they are against america, they are against the bush administration.
Well, you can still make your jokes about this issue, good for you..
David
Those of us who support the war need to take a step back and put the european oppositon in perspective. The US doesn't need either their approval or assistance.
I don't see what one side can now do to stop the other. Old Europe has made it's position clear. The United States has made it's position clear. It's time Bush abandons his attempts at gaining internatonal support for war from nations who are unwilling to do so.
"I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me" - General George S. Patton.
Heh, Germans thinking war is wrong.
It's like the French thinking sex is wrong or the Brits thinking drinking beer is wrong.
But don't you think it's mostly because they don't get to invade France for free this time?
Like 1914 and 1939?
Yeah, real forethought there.
I never said I was immune to it. Unfortunatley I am also human and I have the natural desire to despise entrenced enemies.
So that last sentence above isn't emotionalism? Oh, sorry, when you believe something it's fact, when others believe something different, it's "emotionalism".
Hmmm, generalize much?
And since when did Germany get so picky about invading other countries? After all, they've had more practice than most countries have had hot dinners.
Or defending the French for that matter. (Well, of course, it's always nice to start a World War with a couple of patsies to get warmed up, I guess. So you owe them that, at least.)
"Peace in our time!"
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 21:34:46 -0500, Chris� wrote:
Hey Chris, just reread you post: first you're talking about "some French idiot" after that you're complaining about the entire subject drifted from substance to emotionalism. Don't you see that antagonism? It's the Bush administration that tries to keep this whole matter on an emotional level, they are the one's to freighten their people so they can cut their rights and steer them into another useless war! Big Brother is not anymore some word, it's getting real since 911.
btw.: I'm glad to live in a democracy where the government is still elected by the people, not by 750billion oil-dollars and corrupt courts.
David
that's gonna be a bitch to fit on a menu.
now
how is the average dumbass going to remember all of that?
Too long. Not supportabe by the facts. Anyone got a better one?
"I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me" - General George S. Patton.
Stan wrote:
How about "cheese-eating surrender fries"? No, wait, that's stupid.
actually, as stupid as i find the latest round of europe-bashing, i kind of like that... but with teh "monkey" part, too. "would you like cheese-eating surrender monkey fries with that?"
in france, btw, they're just called "fries" although it's pronounced freeet
"abe michaelson" wrote in message news:C4Kca.27603$[email]...
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freeet
Remember, whenever you see a French poodle, stomp its little feet. It's the patriotic thing to do!
Well, at least the fries would put up a fight.
"Scott Munro" wrote in message news:[email]...
lol...I'm loving that one.
I'm on the French bashing bandwagon like most people, but this is starting to get to absurd now. Of course, naming them is one thing, being the moron to order them that way is another thing.
"sinistersteve" wrote in message news:...
"most people in the US" that must be. In the rest of the world most people have more problems with the American atitude than the French these days...
There are plenty of Europeans which support our president's position. France and Germany do not speak for every one of them.
"I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me" - General George S. Patton.
[email] (Chris�) wrote in news:24667-3E728E4F-121@storefull- 2234.public.lawson.webtv.net:
"I would rather have a German division in front of me than a Freedom one behind me"
[email] (Chris�) wrote in message news:...
Jups, but the majority is against it, like the rest of the non-US world. Check the surveys made last months...
"PJohan" wrote in message news:[email]...
Canada don't like them much either...
"Chris Fewer" wrote in message news:b4va5l$frj$1@nntp-stjh-01->
Canada is just as divided as any other country on the matter. We just don't have a leader (Chretien is NOT a leader) who has the balls to come out in favour either way. First he says "we want to Bush to go through the UN. If the UN says no, then that's how it should be. But we'd support the US in a military campaign either way."
Then we've got the shitheads in the Liberal party who say stupid fucking things every day that make us all look like asses.
On another topic, do we have to call people from Quebec "Freedom Canadians?" Or will "assholes" suffice?
"weapon.cdn" a �crit dans le message de news: xI5da.486808$[email]...
don't
Canadians?"
Va chier osti de bloke!
"weapon.cdn" wrote in message news:xI5da.486808$[email]...
don't
Canadians?"
Out of curiosity, have you ever been to Quebec?
Why feed the trolls?
"Zed" wrote in message news:[email]...
He's not a troll... he's an Albertan... ;)
Seriously though, it seems to me that pretty much anyone who as that attitude has never been to Quebec, and anyone in Quebec with the appropriate opposite attitude has never been outside Quebec (As witnessed during my trip to rural Quebec, though they were all quite nice to me, many who hadn't travelled outside of Quebec didn't have a high-oppinion of the other provinces, and my theory as to why was confirmed by a rather nice, well travelled elderly couple).
"Chris Fewer" wrote in message news:b53f6r$r6b$1@nntp-stjh-01-
Yes, and I got spat on by an asshole in Montreal muttering something in French (Freedom?), all because I asked him something in English. Not all Freedom Canadians (heh) were rude, but I felt an arrogant attitude towards me the whole time, as though I was a lower person because I don't speak fluent French (sorry, Freedom). I had always been told that if I ask "parlez vous Anglais?" I would be OK. Well, apparently not. I'm not putting all Quebecers in one basket, but you'll excuse me if I'm a little bit soured.
That's an internal matter for Canadians to decide. ;)
The potential war is supported by large percentages of other nations not named France, Great Britian and Germany.
I really feel that European opinion is irrelevant unless that nation is being asked to supply troops. You don't like the war, fine. Don't supply troops or logistical support. Just get the hell out of our way.
"I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me" - General George S. Patton.
"Chris�" wrote in message news:[email]...
Potential war...is that anything like a potential attack of explosive diarrhea? What I mean is, is that with all this talk of a possible war and a potential war, we sure have amassed quite a few soldiers and a ton of hardware for something that is being talked about as "possible."
Reminds me of the early part of WW II, when the media kept talking of a "phony war."
[email] (Chris�) wrote in message news:...
Poppycock. The Freedom and German governments speak for every single one of their citizens, just like Dubya speaks for every single American, and (TMTSR) just like the views expressed in the interviews and commentary on the DVD box sets really do reflect the opinions of Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation, its parent, affiliated and subsidiary corporations.
Support for Dubya's Gulf War Too is strongest in the U.S. and much weaker elsewhere in the world. That there are a handful of Europeans (you know, from Freedom and other countries) that support the war doesn't mean a whole lot. Have your opinion, but don't kid yourself that there's broad-based worldwide support for the coming war. There isn't.
ff
Never said it was as strong elsewhere as here.
Never said their was. I'm saying that there's no broad-based worldwide support for the anti-war position either. It's a highly contentious debate wherever you go, even in the US.
"I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me" - General George S. Patton.
Another "silent majority", no doubt.
"weapon.cdn" wrote in message news:egcca.215011$[email]...
It gets worse... http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/03/13/sprj.irq.congress.france/index.htm l
"Help us invade Iraq or we'll re-unite war dead with their families!"
I got some PCB's and other toxic waste they can have too...
I assume the States will be giving back the Statue of Liberty. Lousy French woman giant thinks she's so great.
Renaming your French Fries is such a Homer thing to do.
"Ian Boothby" wrote in news:[email]:
A message board I occasionally visit had a list of (and thoughts on) other renamed items...
Freedom Dressing Freedom Kissing Freedom Vanilla Ice Cream Freedom toast Freedom horn Freedom cuff Freedom Canadian Freedom heel Freedom curve Freedom door Freedom tickler Freedom letter Freedom braid
Do h.s. foreign language requirements change to Spanish or Freedom?
Will the butler, er, man servant on Family Affair have to change his name to Mr. Freedom?
And did anyone mention Stouffer's Freedom Bread Pizza?
Freedom's Mustard Freedom Stewart
I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three. - Elayne Boosler
Remove "bination" to reply.
Ian Boothby wrote:
Yupper! Looks like we won't be needing that thing anymore!
Where's my elephant?
"Topes" wrote in message news:[email]...
or maybe we can just take away the torch, and give her a raised middle finger facing east.
"Chris Fewer" wrote in message
Not much better in the UK: http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2003120439,00.html
Not that "The Sun" usually has a clue but...
"PJohan" wrote in message news:[email]...
The Sun is legitimate media... if legitimate media means a hack press...
"weapon.cdn" wrote in message news:egcca.215011$[email]...
Actually, I'm against renaming French Fries and French Toast, as they are the perfect names for these items.
They're Soft, They're Yellow, and they are regularly being pulled out of the fire by Americans.
"Arturo Fuente" wrote in news:[email]:
ZING!!
Sounds a bit more appetizing than frog fries, doesn't it?
"weapon.cdn" wrote in message news:egcca.215011$[email]...