Do you lot still cry?

You know "Wahhhhhh waahhhhhh that's the worst episode ever wahhhhhh wahhhhh" or are you now realising that the Simpsons is still the best thing on tv?

Count Bazzu

I still cry. Tears of rage fall silently on my keyboard when I am subjected to the worst episode ever. I often cry myself to sleep at night thinking of Maude Flanders and how alone Ned must feel. I shed a tear now and again for the poor boy in Cincinatti who only gets one syndicated show per night instead of the two most of us enjoy. Don't even get me started on the tear jerking reunion of Lenny and Carl at the oil rig.

But I cry the most when I see the the BIG BOOK OF BRITISH SMILES. Those Brits got some real wacky-ass teeth and they are all sheep, err, subjects.

AJ

"Count Bazzu" wrote in message news:[email]...

wahhhhh" or

Bazilla.

To be fair, we never actually said "wahhhhhh waahhhhhh."
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The BEST thing on tv? I can't recall an episode I really enjoyed since the early nineties.

And saying it's the best thing on tv isn't saying much, considering the majority of drek on television today.

Personally, I think South Park, Powerpuff Girls and Spongebob Squarepants are all vastly superior to any current episode of The Simpsons today.

Early nineties ? Waow, and you keep reading this group ? ;)

"Touch�" !

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Well, I guess it's a matter of taste ?

"Markc65" wrote in message news:[email]...

wahhhhh"

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You didn't mention Ed, Edd, and Eddie!! I never thought too highly of South Park though..

There are others, such as Courage, and Dexter, that I also like.. However, I must admit.. I personally like the newer eppisodes of The Simpsons, to the first and second seasons.. (With a few exeptions, of course)..

Count Bazzu wrote:

Why should people "realize" that your opinion about the show is the only opinion?

Personally, I think the best animated show in these days is Futurama. It�s of course not as good as classic OFF and sure has some lacks in subtle quality and identification potential but it has often the brilliant and smart writing the Simpsons have lost seasons ago, just take F3K stuff like "Parasites Lost" or "Godfellas".

I�ve just watched "Where No Fan Has Gone Before" for the sixth or seventh time and it�s still brilliant and excellently written comedy with lots of witty lines, ideas and insider jokes. And I can hardly say that about many of the new Simpson episodes, they�re just sitcomish and unimaginative rows of slapstick jokes.

The classic years of the Simpsons (seasons 1 - 8) are still the most outstanding and by far best things on TV ever, but these days are gone.

BTW, it�s just my personal opinion, so you don�t have to "realize" it.

Chris

I do cry when I see old episodes, because its a constant reminder of how great the Simpsons were, and what a big pile of horseshit it is now. I won't get into it, I'm sure you've all heard it a million times. Most TV does suck, although there are occaisionally quality shows, most of which seem to be on Comedy Central (South Park, Crank Yankers, Contest Searchlight is hilarious)

God, yes.

And darn it, I really like King of the Hill. It seems to convey the emotions that no longer appear on the newer Simpsons episodes. Anyone with me here?

[email] (DMrobo) wrote in message news:...

While I agree with the not being as good as it once was, 'horseshit' is a bit harsh. I'd say the newer episodes fall between 'meh' and 'crap', at the worst. "Horseshit" should be saved for shows like a Barbra Walters special or "She's the Sheriff".

While I agree the term "horseshit" is a bit strong, I also feel that you two are complete fucking idiots, the first 5-6 seasons of The Simpsons were horrible and the only reason people watched them is because the didn't know how good it could be.

But hey, everyone has their own opinion, and some people may like watching an episode about Bart playing the role of a "kid" in an episode all about "types", none of it actually reflecting reality. And maybe Bart telling people to "eat my shorts" is funny to some, right up there with "cowabunga dude!"

The only creative things from the first few seasons of the Simpsons I can remember is the line "don't have a cow man!" which was a reference to Gertrude Stein's The Making Of Americans (I think that's the book it is in.) Other than that, the episodes consisted of boring sterotypical characters that had to deal with less-than-funny every day situations.

I think your own memory of the early episodes may be a bit cloudy. Most of the "aye carumba", "Cowabunga", etc type stuff was mostly just to be realistic and wasn't really meant to be clever...it was basically just meant to sound like Bart had copied it off the tv, nothing more. And because viewers and the t-shirt makers caught on to it as "catch phrases", they actually ended up dropping most of it by the middle of season two. Every instance of those things being used since has been self-referential of the show's popularity. Not to mention most of it, save for Aye Carumba, was actually used pretty sparingly to being with (I counted exactly one usage of "eat my shorts" in the "formal" use, and interviews with Jon Vitti from 90 and 91, who wrote that saying, tended to express his embarrassment that people had taken the phrase they way they had).

Besides, I didn't start watching until 2000, and my perception is that the first 5 or 6 season are 100 times better then seasons 9/10+. The "less then funny" situations you speak of were in my opinion very well done, not to mention many of them had a Simpsonized twist to it anyway (you can't tell me Bart swapping places with an Albanian spy in season one is purely an every day situation).

UnderdunkT wrote:

I think the problem is that (too many?) people prefer the simple humor nowadays, the zany and entertaining gag rows of recent seasons, the eays sitcom style without deeper layers. Thus the first seasons (IMO the greatest seasons ever) appear boring to them.

Old episodes were episodes where you had to look behind the "surface" and the obvious story to see the hidden complexity and the subversion and social commentary. Take eps like "Itchy & Scratchy & Marge" or timeless classic "Lisa�s Substitute" - they�re much more than just dull sitcom stories, they are either working on various levels or they are open enough for various interpretations. But I said it all before and with better words.

Take my latest reviews about some classic episodes under:

http://members.aol.com/Chris84792/bust.htm

Feel free to call it CBG stuff if you want.

Chris

P.S. I still haven�t seen the new episodes, so I can�t talk about them. What I hear sounds not too bad but also rather superficial.

[email] (Chris Pfeiler) wrote in message news:...

Simplify, man!

Old episodes: A sterotypical sitcom.

New episodes: A sterotypical cartoon.

Jake

Spelling, man!

It's stereotypical, not "sterotypical."

[email] (Markc65) wrote in message news:...

Duh-ohh!

Jake Lennington wrote:

Booooooooooring ;-)

If it would have been so, the show wouldn�t have survived longer than 1 or 2 years.

Yep. Agree.

Chris

what do you like about the current episodes then?

Matt Russell wrote in message news:...

I disagree. Had the material being show today that was so 'good' aired ten years ago, the show would most likely been canned before the first season ended. I'm pretty sure you've seen all (or most) of the episodes and the only reason you can still enjoy them is if they're being stretched into more and more surrealistic situations--i.e. Homer being raped by a panda.

There's nothing wrong with catch phrases and what you're describing is something that was just done in a few episodes here and there back in the first and second seasons. Doesn't matter, though. The first four years were deep with empathy, and that's how the show survived.

What's the show of today? A show full of episodes of constently changing, unlikeable characterizations in unfunny, unreal situtations.

i.e. Homer

lay off the panda scene, eh? the "prank" that preceded it, with homer in a nappy, was perhaps not as silly but much more pathetic!

To throw in "my two cents"...........

I'm actually beginning to dislike the new Simpsons which is a tragedy considering how fantastic we know it can be.

As Jake said, its all getting too wacky, with the jokes being far too obvious. One of the things I love the most is going back to old seasons and still uncovering the odd joke. Maybe its just me getting old but series' 3-6 or so will always remain my favourite.