City Of Ny vs. Homer Simpson

Everyone who reads this please send FOX a letter to show this episode some Sunday Night in tribute to the people in Ny then never show this episode again (in syndication or anywhere). I personally loved This episode but the fact of what has happened seeing it one more time then never showing it again I think would be fitting.

While there at it, never show another sporting event from NY out of respect as well. I think we're getting a bit carried away. Yes this is a horrible thing that has happened this week, but the logic is flawed. Just because the episode took place in New York, and the WTC was featured in it, I see absolutely no reason this episode should never air again. Maybe they should pull all episodes that Phil Hartman voiced characters in as well since he was murdered out of respect to him. Same concept, just as ridiculous. And what about all the postcards and books with photos of the WTC- better get rid of them too. I don't see that happening, and I hope it doesn't. I know we're all grieving and we want to feel like were doing our part to strengthen the country, but pulling all reference to the WTC in popular culture will accomplish nothing. Be strong America.

in article hL7o7.124677$[email], Mervin Lofton jr. at [email] wrote on 9/13/01 2:26 PM:

SPAMMO wrote in message news:B7C67895.A1B2%[email]...

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Anybody here ever read 1984?

Does this method of erasing things throughout history about something ring a bell?

Frightening stuff.

I don't think the WTC belongs in a memory hole.

"Stan" wrote in message news:[email]...

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It could be a reason to not show it for a while. Like 6 months to a year.

"Stan" wrote in message news:[email]...

In the long run. Right now is a time for reverence and solemnity. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Our dead deserve their peace, and they deserve to be mourned.

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If by "sticking your head in the sand" you're talking about "fear", then I agree. We need to be strong; we _shouldn't_ be trying to get our minds off this. We _shouldn't_ let it fade. I hope Dark Tuesday sits in our souls for a very very long time. I may have laughed my last.

"Stan" wrote in message news:[email]...

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Laughter, by its nature, is irreverent. I love to laugh. I enjoy satire. But satire is mockery, no matter how you look at it. It's a distortion of truth. I can't laugh in such a situation. I can't allow myself that freedom right now, because I actually don't have it. I don't believe any of us do. IMO laughter, movies, sports will ring hollow for many participants since the events of Tuesday will sit much deeper in their souls. This is the fault of the terrorists, not our government, or because I say so.

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Not at this time. There is a _need_ to be serious, at least for a while. Escaping into laugher IMO is not healthy in the light of everything. I don't think folks realize just how many freedoms poorer we are right now. It may come to the point where guards with visible weapons walk the streets. That is not our government oppressing us; it's a possible necessary step for our own safety. The freedom to walk the streets is taken for granted. Many freedoms pertaining to air travel are missing now, and may be gone for a long while. All of this is on the heads of the terrorists and their organizations.

There's no stopping time, and probably no stopping episodes. My only fear is that people will eventually sink right back in to their normal lives, hoping that everything will work itself out. Those who are willing to fight for their freedoms and the freedom of others will step forward.

On Sat, 15 Sep 2001 01:03:32 GMT, "The Rack"

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No, this is our fault. We are allowing these bastards to control us. I for one am so drained by this, I would enjoy watching a ballgame. That is the wonderful thing about this country that no terrorist can ever destroy: we are FREE to do whatever we want with the laws of the nation. There is no law that says I have to grieve the same way you do.

Why? Is it really going to matter if I want to leave this terrible thing behind for a few hours and enjoy myself? I have spent the last four days glued to the news, suffering as much as someone with no real connection to the victims can. I have children. I have a wife. I can't begin to imagine the pain these people are feeling. Does this mean we should stop living our lives? If you say yes, then the terrorist win.

And laughing and enjoying ourselves for a few hours is now a freedom we don't have?

"Chris Rios" wrote in message news:[email]...

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I don't agree. They've done their work. We can't pretend to not let it bother us, because it should bother us. We don't have the right to shrug it off. It's the cross we must bear, because of the terrorists.

We _were_. I can't believe people could enjoy any escapist pursuit as much as they usually did until further threats of terrorism are gone. I will probably watch movies. I will probably watch The Simpsons. But it's not going to change the world back, as I know you realize. The world isn't going back to normal any time soon, but (as I said) that's not because of my words. It's because of the attack.

I feel drained at times too, mostly of physical energy. We can turn away from the news. We don't even have to watch it. But I believe doing constructive activity even in a small way every day to help the cause (blood, money donations, working out to become physically stronger in case we're needed, learning Arabic, etc.) will be better than just disappearing into the world of the Simpsons as we allowed ourselves to do before. While I may enjoy the Simpsons in this immediate future, I can no longer immerse myself in it. That freedom is gone. The attackers took it.

It's not grieving I'm talking about. It's trying to walk away from something we should face. It's hard to feel sad for an extended period of time. It's hard to think of nothing else. Yes, we should do our jobs and attempt our lives meanwhile the conflict continues. In the scope of things, in the perspective (if nothing else) that has been given us by the tragedy, we should see just how little our guilty pleasures mean. We were free to enjoy them. We may even enjoy them now. IMO we are in danger of losing that precious perspective (and, as one journalist called it, a certain "maturity") if we just dive into escapism until everything blows over.

Our lives have changed, whether we want to pretend they didn't or not.

That's becoming a pat answer of this whole tragedy. IMO the terrorist doesn't care. He's hit his target. It's not to strike terror; it's to destroy us piece by piece. It's death they brought, not so much the terror. I think there's much less American fear from this tragedy than the word "terrorism" might suggest. People are nothing if not resilient. But pretending it didn't affect us to "not let the terrorist win" IMO is just an excuse to shrug off the problem, even if in a small way, to disengage ourselves from the grief. Grief is not bad. It makes us mentally and emotionally stronger in the long run. We will need that.

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I think that particular freedom is much more limited, but again, not because I say so. It's because something has been done. It's because there is a new real threat that we must defeat. If we refuse to acknowledge the threat and pretend that nothing happened so Mr. Terrorist can see it didn't affect us, he wins, because he'll just attack again. It will appear to him that the arrogant Americans are so disaffected by the loss of their own countrymen, that they would just as soon disappear into their luxurious pasttimes.

Our flag certainly still flies over our land, and our constitution certainly still applies. But we are at half-mast, and that metaphor for an entire country will apply until our threat and our enemies are eliminated. I don't deny you your freedom of choice, Chris, even though I believe freedom right now is limited. We will be waiting in airports for four hours, without the option of having our family members give us a personal goodbye at the boarding gate. We will be padded down and searched from time to time going to things like rock concerts. From time to time armed guards with visible weapons may walk our streets. These are real eventualities right now in many cities. When will we have the freedom from what seems to be an encroachment of our civil liberties, Chris? Is our government oppressing us? Absolutely not. We take the precautions because American lives are at stake. We are at war, and we have to understand what comes with that. Our frustrations at having to wait at airports, for example, should be leveled squarely at the terrorists. They were the ones who've began to encroach our freedoms. I can't pretend to have freedoms that I don't have right now, any more than I can pretend to fly.

Please understand Chris, I feel for you and your family and those on the group. I think we all feel closer because of dark Tuesday, and there's no real point to bicker amongst ourselves. I'm here in the community to discuss what we can't rid ourselves of just by diving into a TV show. I'll probably taper off soon, and the fictional world of the Simpsons will reclaim the group as it should. I love to laugh as much as you do. I'd love that freedom again. I can't have a sense of humor about this situation, though, because there is none. That is what I mean by keeping perspective.

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That's fine. I just hope we keep the perspective we got on our lives last week.

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It's just trivial to even worry about that anyway, isn't it? Normalcy will return, if not completely.

They should change it to Jakarta vs Homer Simpson and have visit the petronas towers instead. that would work.

I guarantee FOX will *never* rebroadcast that (great) episode, at least for the next two years. It's so sad.

On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 00:14:20 -0400, Stan wrote:

Not necessarily. Fox the network doesn't have any say, but Fox the producer and syndicator of it does. They could pull it from the syndication package.