Worst Epidsode Ever

Hey All

I'm new to this newsgroup, and have added my comments in here and there about our latest episode. But I just wanted to make my own comments on it. First of all I'm a Canadian (surprise eh?) :) so yes I was offended by the little amount of time and effort they put into portraying Toronto, one of the most beautiful cities in Canada, but aside from that I have been a Simpsons fan almost from the start, and all my life as far back as I can remember. This episode, aside from being terrible towards Canadians was just poorly done, it was like it was hacked together in the last ten minutes before it had to be done. Some of the jokes were just terrible, and most of the time through the episode i was just sitting there going "ummmmm OK" The only good crack in the entire episode was the one about American currency, did someone who actually had experience in Canada walk by the writers office and throw that one in? But anyways I'm not going to apologize for the Canadians complaining about this, but I know you Americans think we are just being a bunch of whiners about this episode and YES a lot of it is our fault for putting so much hype into it, but give us a break there are A LOT of canadian fans of the simpsons so we were hoping to be thrown a bone on this one, and quite obviously we didn't get it.

Cassidy

Well, you're original, most of them say Worst Episode ever, Epidsode is different, to say the least.

Bazilla

Cassidy wrote:

Well, I agree with that part

Damning with faint praise, aren't we?

I mean how many "cities" are there in Canada that it should be so tough to qualify for a "one of the best" rating?

dave

uuuuuum.... Blow me.

"Dave Paisley" wrote in message news:[email]...

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On Tue, 19 Feb 2002 17:11:59 GMT, Dave Paisley wrote:

There's over a hundred in Ontario alone, IIRC.

TTYL

Get an education dude. You put down a country while knowing nothing about it. Typical.

Here's a link for your tiny brain to look over: http://www.canadainfolink.ca/cities.htm

Oh and the population is in thousands, meaning you have to add 3 zeros to the end. So Toronto is 4 million not 4 thousand.

Dave Paisley wrote in message news:...

I lived in Canada for 4 years and currently reside within a couple of hours drive of the border.

It's a nice place, but it doesn't have a lot of "cities". Some people might think that's a good thing, so get off your high horse.

(Oh, but it's harder to tell at the bottom of the list. There might only be 131 people in Thunder Bay?)

So there are all of 26 "cities" in Canada according to the website. And let's face it, anything with a population less than say, 250,000 is hard to call a city by most countries standards. So that drops off the bottom nine, headed by Saskatoon, leaving 17.

And of those 17, there are places like Windsor, Oshawa and Victoria. And while the latter is a nice enough place, it's hardly a typical bustling city.

So for Toronto to qualify as "one of the best" cities in Canada is hardly, as I noted, much of a feat.

And if anything, it's the most bland, but not without redeeming qualities.

dave

"Dave Paisley" wrote in message news:[email]...

Having lived in two of those bottom 9 you dropped off the list, I would argue that a city cannot merely be defined by population alone. If you had ever seen a city like Saskatoon or Regina, or Fredericton, or Thunder Bay, you would find it difficult to label it merely a "town" just because there are fewer than a quarter of a million people... they have self-contained downtowns with high-rise apartments and offices, performing arts such as symphonies and theater companies, professional sports, etc.

Yours truly, Some bozo

in article k9rc8.9838$[email], Cassidy at [email] wrote on 2/19/02 7:02 AM:

So the scorecard is: 2 minutes ripping on Cubans 10 minutes ripping on Canadians 22 minutes ripping on Aussies 15 minutes on the French ~45 minutes ripping on the Japanese 5000 minutes ripping on Americans

Doesn't seem disproportionate, maybe a little easy on the French, as it's so richly deserved.

Brett

Oh, there's a lot more than just 15 minutes on the French...

Jason Saslow spewed forth in news:[email] on 19 Feb 2002:

At least 20.

in article [email], Greg Bair at [email] wrote on 2/19/02 6:30 PM:

We will show them who looks like ze frog!

Brett

Sorry Bout the spelling it was early in the morning.....but the thing about it is....Americans are not that cut up in the show. It's always ( like anything else that americans make ie movies, songs) about how amazing the States are and how great they are, and blah blah blah. As for how many cities are in Canada, i'm sorry we didn't split our country six ways from sunday. But we still do have a lot of cities. All I'm saying is if your going to protray us protray us more correctly than they did. I'm mean honestly I have been going to the CN Tower all my life (that's 22 years if anyone is interested) and I have NEVER seen a mountie in there in full dress uniform.

You know we are not all a bunch of Cletuses over here

Cassidy

First, I have removed my last name due to certain scoffers who felt obliged to comment on it. That's ok, I only put it in there to make it easier to submit episode capsules.

Well, it's funny to non-canadians, who most likely associate mounties, hockey, freezing natives and "eh" with Canada. I don't expect it to be realistic, because where would the humor be in that? Stereotypes, that's what they were, and they were funny, just like in NYC. Not eveyone in NYC are thiefs, pimps, and garbage dumpers, but its damn funny. Funny!

On 19 Feb 2002 20:23:31 GMT, [email] (Santino) wrote:

Yes they are.

TTYL

in article [email], AcK! at [email] wrote on 2/27/02 7:20 PM:

Then the C.H.U.D.s came at me.

Brett

On Thu, 28 Feb 2002 03:23:06 GMT, Brett Buck wrote:

Damn C.H.U.D.s

TTYL

Pardon my ignorance, but what are C.H.U.D.s?

Cannibalistic Humanoid Underground Dwellers

Some really crappy horror film that i only saw twice (yeah, i know) a long time ago. really sucked. but fun in that bad horror movie kind of way. they lived in the sewer and ate people. don't really remember any details.

Well... they're not quite mops, not quite puppets, but man...[laughs] ...so to answer your question, look here: http://www.imdb.com/Title?0087015

• mirilidium

Oh, I remember this now! Damn, makes the reference even funnier. Thanks.

Cletus is an idiot and American, but that's obviously not a shot at some Americans.

Chief Wiggum is a cop and American, but that's obviously not a shot at American cops.

C. Montgomery Burns is a rich snob and American, but that's obviously not a shot at rich Americans.

Moe rigs together five guns with duct tape and fishing wire and gets applause for shooting someone in the spine, but that's not a shot at the American group called the NRA.

The Republicans get together and decide to ruin the environment, but that's not a shot against American Republicans.

I don't feel the need to go on, but I can't believe you actually said the words, "Americans are not that cut up in the show. It's always... about how amazing the States are...", because that's just ridiculous. Either that or you're watching a different show.

Jason Saslow spewed forth in news:[email] on 19 Feb 2002:

YOU OWE ME A NEW SARCASM DETECTOR, ASSHOLE! :)

On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 02:32:02 GMT, Greg Bair wrote:

LOL!, best reponse to a sarcastic post to date. :)

TTYL

Wrong. All things American are grilled on the show constantly.

Wha? What, where, when?

Fascinatin'.

Umm...nobody here works on the show. But I'll be sure to bring it up with Groening next time I see him.

It's called satire. Try it sometime...it tastes delicious.

"Jeff can see you in tea." wrote in message news:[email]...

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/me watches a toilet flush the correct, American way. "Sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing."

Seriously though, the frequent chanting of USA ticks me, a Canuck, off.:)

Leons Petrazickis import java.lang.disclaimer;

Hey....... Dudes........ Get real! Cassidy is right -- Your portrayal of Toronto was pretty poor. I mean -- most Canadian Simpson fans have probably waited, like, forever to see an episode that they can relate too. And when it finially comes....... IT SUCKS. I'm an English Simpson fan, and have noticed many British references eg. Ringo Starr, The Spinal tap world tour in London, Krusty Goes to Wimbledon; meets the queen, Zombie Shakespear, "THE BIG BOOK OF BRITISH SMILES", the beatles, Krusty's holding company on The Cayman Islands, the ripper, Elton John, Hugh Parkfield...... ECT.

I agree with the fact, that in some ways, these are amusing, but...... They depict England, France, Germany, Austrailia and now Canada, in mocking ways -- like a "joke". Get real Americans...... it may be just an insignificant gag to yourselfs, but to us, it's our pride. We are not just a bunch of stuck-up snobs, and cockney loosers, with bad teeth, you know.

Right, the Simpsons NEVER make fun of America <<sarcasm detector explodes, taking out four city blocks (that would be 8.8 British city blocks, right?)>>

Just do us all a favor and stop watching if you fail to see any bit of humor poked at Americans. If that's truely the case, it's a lost cause and you might as well find something else to do with your time.

Shame on you, Groening. Both of your Canadian viewers really wanted to get a kick outta that one there.

My mistake. Now tally-ho, old chap. I've got to fill me lorry with petrol in time for tea at the Tottenham Hotspur game!

Uh, I better look in the manual...

...This book must be out of date: I don't see "lorry", "petrol" or "Tottenham".

"Jason Saslow" wrote in message news:[email]...

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petrol in

Ah-ha,but just as how the American-English stereotype is a cockney, the English-American stereotype is a cowboy on a horse!:D It's just good ol' fashioned clean fun.

"Philip Paphiti" spewed forth in news:a4ulma$fs5$[email] on 19 Feb 2002:

Let's try this again, it's an AMERICAN series, depends on AMERICAN ad revenues. BBC and whoever could drop the Simpsons and it would go on, but if its ratings drop in the US and FOX cancels it, the show is over. Get it? It's Canada's own fault that they pumped so much into this episode. The show makes way more fun of Americans than they do any other country. when have they ever ripped the beatles? never. Parodied, but never made fun of them. Elton John isn't a British rock star, he's just a rock star to Americans. It wasn't a British ref. Same with Shakespeare. was never a British ref. It's a ref to Shakespeare, nothing more. Same with Ringo. And, this might surprise you, but Spinal Tap was a bunch of American actors! Oh, you forgot the British waitress, "Freshen your drink, governor?".

Stuck up snobs - let's see, Kent Brockman, CMB, CBG, just about every star to appear on the show. Cockney losers - they may not be cockney, but there are plenty of American losers on the show. Bad teeth - every damn character has an overbite! How's that for bad teeth?

drink,

Okay, I guess Canada did Make a big deal out of *virtually* nothing. I've heard the BBC have invested in episodes up to Season 13, but do not intend to buy any futher ones, due to high over-seas trade transaction prices. This therefore means -- We will have to contend with those stupid reapeats, once again! :-( As for FOX...... Man..... I can't believe they cancelled Futurama, and Family Guy! That Sucks.... And who's to say, the Simpsons aren't next on their hitlist? I Recall practically choking upon my Korn FlakesT and contemplating over and over "Once again FOX has cancelled yet another quality show! They can't do that -- it's a crime against nature!!" I can also remember the internet *atrocities* commited by FOX, over the past few years, and witnessing some of the best Simpson Fan Sites collapse in the wrath of their big bad lawyers.............. But this time they've gone waaaaaay to far, man.

Sign the petition, SAVE FUTURAMA: http://www.petitiononline.com/futufu/petition.html

there

Hehehehehe. See ur point -- Dude........ I Guess ur right!

Hey -- Also, you forgot GUS the lovable chimney-sweeper -- "Clean as a whistle, Sharp as a thistle, Best in all westminter, Yeah!"

In article , "LPetrazickis" wrote:

That's the joke. There is no correct direction, yet the military presumably spent a large sum of money to make a toilet flow in the "right" direction.

Let me know when someone cares.

"Cassidy" wrote in message news:5yxc8.8020$[email]...

This has got to be the single dumbest post ever posted here. And that is saying a lot.

Has this person even noticed that The Simpsons is based on a stereotype of the typical American Family? The ENTIRE show is based on poking fun at American things..like watching too much TV, like being lazy at everything, overweight, undisciplined kids..jeez. The list is endless.

Dumbest Post Ever.

I agree.

Something people seem to always fail to understand about The Simpsons is that the show bashes EVERYONE and EVERYTHING.

Thats one of the things that makes the show funny.

Are they supposed to just change that formula because they happen to be setting a small part of one episode in America Junior?

Furious George aka Queso

my sentimonies exactly. no one, and i mean no one, is exempt from the simpsons furious satire and sarcasm. even the simpsons themselves, the cartoon, the writers, the producers, MG himself ("get the hell out of my office"). if anything, the simpsons pokes fun at america the Most. without a doubt.

That's the thing though, and that's what I mean about american's........that's supposed to be the "typical american family" well there are typical families like that all over the world and problems like that exist many places on the planet. I mean honestly everything that comes up in the states in instantly an American Problem! like the world trade center....I had people come up to me or send me messages saying that I had no write to talk about it. Well many different people died when that horrible thing happened. Everything that happens in america to you guys is suddenly an american problem, and you don't seem to realize that yes there is other countries out here.

Cassidy

"chemboy" wrote in message news:WfEc8.7822$Ot2.513304@sccrnsc01...

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First of all, don't let a few jerks tell you what you can and can't talk about. The attacks, though all on Key targets on American soil, affected everyone and everyone has a right to discuss it.

However, while I don't think there's a question that there are other countries out there, the attacks on the WTC, the Pentagon and the crash in Penn was intended to be entirely about America. They didn't attack the British Parliment, they didn't attack the Eiffel Tower. They didn't attack the Molsen Centre.

bin Laden wants ALL Americans out of Saudi Arabia and other Mid-East countries. His demands have nothing to do with Canada; nothing to do with Australia; nothing to do with France; nothing to do with Mexico or any other country, for that matter.

Don't blame Americans for taking those attacks personally. If you want someone to blame for making this entirely about America, blame bin Laden.

Drunk and full of pie, Cassidy wrote:

Wait a minute. Slow down... there's a "New" Mexico?

I take back my assessment of the earlier post as the "Dumbest Post Ever". You have somehow topped yourself. This new post is by far, without a doubt, the Dumbest Post Ever in the Universe!

I don't seem to recall Ossama Bin Laden railing against that Great Satan, Canada.

We do realize there are other countries out there. As soon as there is a great show about a dysfunctional French Family, Le Family Simpsoner, I'll read that message board. Right now The Simpsons is about U.S. dumbasses, not Canadian, not German. I just watched the Bart the Daredevil episode..I'm pretty sure "Truckasaurus" and monster truck pulls were an American invention. Does anybody else want to claim them?

"Cassidy" wrote in message news:ygQc8.10607$[email]...

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http://www.theonion.com/onion3806/that_trip_to_canada.html

"When I finally made it back home, I started to see things through a different lens. I no longer viewed the world as being all the same. Now I see it for what it is: America and a bunch of other places with subtle differences from us."

"Cassidy" added to Project Mayhem with the following:

Donut toast (pinng!) to a fellow Canadian! Just thought I'd let you know that the guy who wrote the script for that particular show *IS* Canadian ((gasp!)) and attended the University of Alberta...at least that's what the propaganda media in Downtown Canada told me.

Marla

i dont know what you are complaining about, have you seen Bart Goes to Australia? now that was bad

On Tue, 19 Feb 2002 14:18:01 -0800, "Cassidy" wrote:

Which should tip you off to the fact that anytime you see a mountie in uniform somewhere like on the Simpsons, it's most likely a joke.

BTW, wasn't he getting of ths bus rather than at the tower.

TTYL

Take off you hoser!

Swinefeld

On Tue, 19 Feb 2002 07:02:02 -0800, "Cassidy" wrote:

We realize that with that aura of newness you project.

That's generally what people do around here.

Uh, no.

Long and Cohen were responsible for moving the finale act to Toronto, but the American writers are generally the ones who bring up Canadian jokes, odd as that sounds.

Um, Americans had no idea about the amount of hype Global put into this ep, and many didn't care either.

Are you apologizing for the ep? Odd...

TTYL