When did the genius stop?

Aug 15, 2005, 9:43 PM ET10 posts by 7 postersalt.tv.simpsons
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Godzilla1171alt.tv.simpsons

When do you guys think the Simpsons stopped cranking out great shows? I mean if you are collecting all the DVD's, is there a season in which you would stop buying because there were more average episodes than great ones? Maybe stop at Season 9 because with Season 10 the quality and writing became weaker? Did the laughter stop with Season 10?

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Season 10 the writers thougth it'd be great to give the show to the kids (and give the internet nerds a lot of flack for whining). After season 9 till around season 14, the show was empty slapstick, with a few 'adult' jokes to still call it an adult animated sitcom.

As for the DVDs, I'm done buying them after Season 9. Season 10 and on weren't great for free, so why do I want to spend 30 dollars a season for them?

On 15 Aug 2005 18:43:00 -0700, [email] wrote:

I don't buy them, I download them from binary groups (I have -nearly- the full set).

I used to think the show wasn't as good as it used to be, especially in those clever references to films, news, etc. that I always thought were so clever. But now, looking back at old shows of various seasons, I think the show is as clever as it ever was.

How old is South Park now? Now -there's- a show that's gone downhill!

"blazing laser" <none> wrote in message news:[email]...

The show has always had pop-culture refferences (which is on par with a Jay Leno monolog), but what seperated the earlier shows from the new shows is:

1. Jokes didn't run, unless that was the specific point of the joke (ala the Bob vs the Rakes) 2. The character had more emotional realisim, and unless you get charcacer developement and interection, you wouldn't notice this.

Seanblazing laseralt.tv.simpsons

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I agree with you about The Simpsons; I still watch every single one. Your opinion on South Park, however, I'll have to disagree with.

[email] wrote:

I'll get season 9 (despite containing the horrible "Principal and the Pauper," a harbinger of bad things to come, season 9 is still fairly strong, with a good number of excellent episodes). Season 10 is borderline. Season 11, no.

They still have good writers, and they are still very good at writing gags, even the weak episodes have at least a couple good zingers. But all gags does not a show make. The total abandonment of character for the sake of outrageous situations wore me out awhile ago. I can hardly blame anyone though, it's been 15 seasons after all, so I can see the idea of trying to change the tone/style of the show in an effort to mine more episodes, and I'm sure the latter seasons have their admirers (not all the newer episodes are weak, there are more than a handful I like over the last 5 years). But overall for me, the newer shows are a pale shadow of the old ones. This is nothing that hasn't been said about many other long running shows like M*A*S*H, Seinfeld, or All in the Family, so take it that vein.

I just hate how they forsaken the caring and emotional realism of the characters (as a previous poster pointed out) that was a big part of the show mainly the 1st three seasons. I know its hard to come up with new ideas after 16 years, but at least put a little heart in some of the episodes.

[email] wrote:

It's still there in Season 6. Look at, say, "'Round Springfield" (which I watched today) and the relationship between Bart and Lisa. Despite their typical sibling squabbling, there is still a deep love and trust under the surface. More recent fare, like "On a Clear Day I Can't See My Sister" just chuck that relationship into the garbage for the sake of a strained premise.