In all seriousness...

Do you think Flanders beat his wife? I mean, he _did_ say he's done everything the Bible says (even the stuff that contradicts the other stuff.)

Hmm.

-Phil

"Phil" wrote in news:b5lvba$ntm$[email]:

Seriousness? Here? Don't make me laugh.

"Phil" wrote in news:b5lvba$ntm$[email]:

While you're at it, show me one place in the Bible that say's it's ok to beat your wife.

"Donut" wrote in message news:[email]...

Its just a typical anti-Christianity troll - nothing to see, move along...

--Ben Kennedy

"Ben Kennedy" wrote in message news:[email]...

I seem to recall there being somthing in there about beating your wife... or perhaps it was your children? Somthing regarding a rod no bigger then a man's thumb?

"Chris Fewer" wrote in news:b5nk5p$9dp$[email]:

Well, the Bible recommends disciplining one's children (Proverbs 23:13 says "Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.") out of love, but that's a far cry from beating one's wife out of hate (Ephesians 5:33: "Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself.")

["Joshua"; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 19:24:02 GMT]

What's the difference? some might ask. Some people can't tell the difference.

J44XM <tinyurl.com/7nzz> wrote in news:[email]:

And the "rod of discipline" mentioned means "a straight and narrow path" literally.

Nowhere in the Bible is physical beating of children or spouses condoned. And, now I'm out of this thread, so please stop replying to things I never said.

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When the phrase "rod of discipline" is used, people tend to construe it to mean "discipline someone with a rod." If they meant "straight and narrow path," it should have been put that way, instead of in a phrasing that could obviously mean physical beating.

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[email] (Sydney Assbasket ) wrote in news:[email]:

Well, physical punishment of children is sometimes needed; in olden times a rod was used, now a spanking is usually preferred. In either case, the Bible is clearly in favor of disciplining one's children (and, of course, discipline as "training that corrects, molds, or perfects" [Merriam- Webster] need not involve something physical; it is highly dependent on the individual child).

[email] (Sydney Assbasket ) wrote in news:[email]:

You must remember that the Bible is a Middle Eastern book in origin, and that literal translations will sometimes not carry the same idea in English that it did in the original language, in this case either Hebrew or Aramaic. In fact, read the English of Shakespeare's day and compare it to ours.

Have you ever read a literal translation of Japanese into English? Very strange sounding.

There are paraphrased Bibles but I don't use them. A translator has a heavy responsibility to convey the original meaning as closely as possible without adding his own interpretation, which is exactly what paraphrasing is.

Which translation has "rod of discipline"? King James? I read part of an English etymology book once, and it has some pretty interesting stuff. Chaucer's work is like a different language.

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"Chris Fewer" wrote in news:b5nk5p$9dp$[email]:

Here's what I found after a bit of research:

A marriage handbook written in the 15th century of our Common Era advised husbands who had seen their wives commit an offense "to first bully and terrify her," then "take up a stick and beat her soundly."

In England, 19th-century legislators tried to reduce the suffering of women by determining legally how large the stick could be. They devised what was known as the rule of thumb law, which allowed a man to beat his wife with a stick "no larger around than his thumb."

"Joshua" wrote in message news:[email]...

Interestingly enough, this was the original "rule of thumb."

-Phil

"Phil" wrote in message news:b5nofc$goe$[email]...

Here's a lengthy discussion on the topic.

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Rool of thumb? should be mar like rool o tha rist. . . canna do much damage with a thumb now can ya? -Boondock Saints

"Joshua" wrote in message news:[email]...

My mistake, I thought that was in the bible... seem to remember some religious nut/wife beater using it a (failed) precedent at one time.

"Ben Kennedy" wrote in message news:[email]...

Oops, yeah... I meant to say "beat his kids." Sorry about the confusion, there, Ben!

-Phil

Donut wrote in message news:...

The Bible says a lot of things. I'm sure it's in there somewhere. Just ask Rev. Lovejoy.

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[email] (Fritz Foetzl) wrote in news:[email]:

Nope, the Bible does NOT condone or encourage wife beating. End of discussion.

Joshua wrote in news:[email]:

I did a Google search for

bible beat wife koran

and there are a lot of pages that state that the Koran does condone and encourage wife beating.

Jim

Jim wrote in news:sGJfa.203755$L1.34566@sccrnsc02:

Well, the Koran might but the Bible doesn't. Muslims have all kinds of 'crazy' beliefs. ;-)

Fritz Foetzl wrote:

OH YEAH!!!

"Thou shalt not steal," pshhh, like I'm gonna not steal.

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