Notes for FABF19 (Sleeping with the Enemy)

S16E03 Sleeping with the EnemyliveNov 21, 2004, 9:11 PM ET1 hours after the credits16 posts by 12 posters
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Matt Garvey

I'll be quick with this one...tonight's episode was a surprising success. (The end. See, that was quick!) But seriously, though, I wasn't entirely sure how it would turn out; I should have looked at the head writer (Jon Vitti) beforehand, though, because that would have put me in the right mindset. With a few exceptions where things were a little exaggerated (e.g. Marge's reaction to the kids), I found the plots rather smooth and believable. I didn't foresee Nelson's dad returning (have we seen him since 9F12? any other continuity goofs?), but in the Simpson universe, his story was not entirely implausible (this is a use of litotes), and in fact the whole episode had undertones of sweetness that was not thrust at us. I suppose it could be seen as sensational/a ratings grabber (the shocking twist of Mr. Muntz's disappearance), but it didn't strike me that way. Also in its favor, the episode was funny more or less throughout, though there were a couple dumb points (notably Ralph's furniture duck-duck-goose; he's not _that_ stupid... I smell a rake scene/syndication cut!). A-

DYN: ...there were more than 64 spaces in Lisa's hopscotch setup? (I didn't count the number of _squares_ though...) ...the state capitals test seemed to be one single-sided page, yet it only went to Iowa alphabetically? (And KY was apparently there too...) ...Homer doesn't include grandchildren in his plan for Marge's life as a motherly type? ...this is the first time we _see_ Mrs. Muntz (I think)? ...someone really dropped the ball on delivering that Labor Day cake? ...Patty was apparently the first born? (Though perhaps each magazine simultaneously ran an "other twin" feature...)

Previous episode references 9F02: Lisa concerned about her image (plus, Homer tells her she's cute [though not as a bug's ear this time]) 4F24: Lisa imagining a fat older Lisa with dorky husband (Milhouse here, Ralph there) 8F11: Bart's crappy party and its guests (at least they didn't pull out the radio mic for an ill-staged gag) 4F01: Nelson still seems to care for Lisa EABF16: Nelson pines for his dad

Other reference Family Guy (A Picture is Worth 1000 Bucks, 2ACX07): a girl so thin she's 2-dimensional

Meta-reference corner I'm not sure just when it was first mentioned, or if it was strictly intentional (my guess is yes), but I've read in a number of interviews that indeed the hair and ear in Homer's profile was originally Matt Groening's initials. If only Homer knew... Incidentally, Homer's explanation of the roundness of the Simpson form looked like a "how to draw" guide popular for cartoons, except that one would expect more rough spheroids (with equators/meridians) for the arms, head, etc.

Goofs (really nitpicky this time) -Milhouse first met Bart in kindergarten, not first grade, according to 3G02. Memory being what it is, this could be intentional. -Nelson knows Marge; that wasn't even a necessary contrivance to make the plot work. -Similarly, Marge definitely knows that it's Itchy and _Scratchy_.

Personal comments -Edna's forgetting to roll up the state map (Bart must have awesome eyesight) reminded me of an experience of my own from 8th grade. We were going over the prepositions, and our teacher was going to give us a quiz where we were to list more or less all of them (we had a list of 48). Before class began, I wrote them out on the side blackboard as kind of a last-minute study guide for anyone who wanted it, but they were never erased. I didn't comment on it before or during the quiz, partly having faith in the honor system, but partly to see just what would happen. Pretty much everyone got 100% on the quiz, though I do think a number of the students did it honestly from memory; after she noticed, our teacher was not happy and had us retake it. She also figured out that I had written them up there, and for _some_ reason I got all the blame, even though the blackboard was in plain sight. Oh well. That's my story. -Also, interesting job with the credits; even though the extra part ended before it usually would have to (i.e. the also-starrings and guest voices are shown before the split), Fox ran the whole thing full screen. Good sign? I guess we'll see!

George W. BushMatt Garvey

I'll keep it nice and short and say this was a good episode. Lots of funny moments and we got to see some character development with Nelson which was cool. HAW! HAW!

I call upon all nations to do everything they can to stop these terrorist killers. Thank you. Now, watch this drive! "Matt Garvey" wrote in message
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"George W. Bush" <Giant Douche With A Side Of Turd Sandwich> wrote in message news:[email]...

funny

God bless Jon Vitti -- I wish he'd write more episodes. The two stories were nicely balanced and felt organic, unlike some of the very contrived episodes we've seen over the past few seasons. I did feel like the resolution was a bit rushed, though -- I guess that's what happens when you don't set up the main plot (Nelson moves in) until the second act.

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Ted S.Matt Garvey

Somebody claiming to be Matt Garvey wrote in news:[email]:

I thought Lisa said there were *68* spaces, although I'm going from memory.

Ted <fedya at bestweb dot net> Barney: Hey, Homer, you're late for English. Homer: Who needs English? I'm never going to England. <http://www.snpp.com/episodes/7F12.html>
Benjamin RobinsonTed S.

In alt.tv.simpsons, on the "Re: Notes for FABF19 (Sleeping with the Enemy)" thread, Ted S. wrote:

I'm pretty sure I heard Lisa say, "68" as well.

Yeah, and just a week after I said Fox only bothered to do this if something special was going on under the end credits.

I don't think America is waiting with bated breath to find out who the second assistant intern for the background director is, but it was nice to see the regular full-screen credits. I was surprised at how much I enjoyed *not* being subjected to a breathless promo for whatever else happened to be on Fox's schedule that week. Let's hope Fox decides to make this a permanent thing.

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Matt GarveyTed S.

"Ted S." wrote:

Your memory is better than mine (even short-term, apparently, since i wrote it down about 2 seconds later)... though I think her mouth said "four" if that's worth anything. I also looked - no numbers were skipped, but the camera panned incorrectly at some of the loops.

Ted S.Matt Garvey

Somebody claiming to be Matt Garvey wrote in news:[email]:

Do the animators really draw the mouths correctly for lip-reading?

Ted <fedya at bestweb dot net> Barney: Hey, Homer, you're late for English. Homer: Who needs English? I'm never going to England. <http://www.snpp.com/episodes/7F12.html>
Steve BrownTed S.

"Ted S." wrote in message news:...

You betcha.

Mark WilsonMatt Garvey

"Matt Garvey" wrote in message news:[email]...

loops.

Has somebody alerted Xino Kiner? *grinning*

Matt GarveyMark Wilson

Mark Wilson wrote:

Just wait a couple of years, so it's exactly halfway between the airdate and the DVD release.

Xino KinerMatt Garvey

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Very funny, but at least it will be brought up again instead of FORGOTTEN forever.

Mark WilsonXino Kiner

"Xino Kiner" wrote in message news:[email]...

FORGOTTEN

Smithers, who is this ignoramus?

FunkyMark Wilson

"Mark Wilson" wrote in message news:6gvpd.48447$[email]...

Its Xino, one of the Trolls from alt.tv.simpsons

Alan HamiltonMatt Garvey

On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 21:11:01 -0500, Matt Garvey wrote:

9F12: Nelson's dad takes him to Hooters, where his mom works AABF07: Nelson's mother is heard, but not seen ("We're out of Skoal!"). Her voice sounded different, too. FABF07: His mom is too fat to work at Hooters. (Yo yo diet, maybe?)

He also looks around the house in amazement, even though he was in the Simpsons house before (4F01).

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888eight888Matt Garvey

Matt Garvey wrote in message news:...

Nelson singing by the window with the candle: Rock opera "Tommy" by The Who. I think the candle was there as in the "light bulb" in Tommy.

...I actually thought some of the emotive singing shifted Nelson a bit off of character.

[Overall, a good episode.]...

NathanMatt Garvey

Matt Garvey wrote in message news:...

Nah, she showed up last season. I forget which episode it was, though.

In "Principal Charming," Selma says that Patty was the first-born.

Back around the ninth or tenth season, a few episodes originally aired with Groening showing how to draw various characters over the credits. He did indeed admit that his initials were included in Homer's profile.

Those corrective lenses that he wore in "The Last Temptation of Homer" must have worked really well.

What about the kids in the back of the class, though? Mrs. Krabappel says that EVERYBODY got a 100. Maybe the map has really big lettering.

Nathan