ALTERNATE DIALOGUE in closed captions

Aug 20, 2002, 2:31 AM ET19 posts by 12 posters
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ArtCfartsy

The Simpsons has got to be the most entertaining show to watch with closed captioning turned on your TV! They don't miss a thing with the dialogue, sound effects and music. However, I have caught a few instances where the CC has different dialogue than what is heard. Example: In the "Party Posse" episode, when the VJ chick says that bit about "...Brought to you by Stridex... Medicated!" the caption reads something like "That was a back to back video block with Eminem on top of Cake... Yummers!" And on close inspection, her lip synch matches the CC text. I can only assume this was the first draft script before the final editing. Please reply to this post and let me know if you're interested in reading more of these, or if this is just old news and I'm boring you to death. I promise to be more brief in future posts. [email]

Hugh LillyArtCfartsy

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I waould enjoy reading a few more.

Why the apology? /hl

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  • Hugh Lilly (Tue, 20 Aug 2002 09:46:03 GMT):

Indeed. Not needed -- though I do recommend some paragraph breaks, please.

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ArtCfartsyJD44-C84X
Last time I posted here I got a little lengthy describing my favorite Simpsons joke that I didn't catch the first time around. I got 2 responses along the lines of "yeah, yeah... we get it." [email]
Ryan W. MeadJD44-C84X

Some dialogue and things are eventually changed by the time the show goes to air. The closed-captioning is done before post-production.

Jim EllwangerRyan W. Mead

In article , [email] (Ryan W. Mead) wrote:

Concurrent with post-production, actually (since it IS a part of post-production), but it's being done by a different company in another part of town while final audio editing is still going on.

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ArtCfartsyJim Ellwanger
OK... I'll rewatch my tapes and let you know what I find. I remember I saw one other difference in a recent episode... I think it was in the "Simpsons go to Africa" one. [email]
Alan HamiltonJim Ellwanger

On Tue, 20 Aug 2002 23:58:18 GMT, Jim Ellwanger wrote:

In the case of this line, I suspect it was a setup for a "Mmm... M&M on top of cake" line. That got cut for some reason, so they changed the line.

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MoonTzuAlan Hamilton

Glad to see that someone else noticed this. I have seen it happen 3 or 4 times on the Simpsons and twice on Futurama and have wondered what the deal is.

Here is an example of one (unfortunately I don't remember the episode or the name Homer uses I *think* it was Wolfcastle)

Homer picks up the phone and says "Get me Rainier Wolfcastle."

Audio - Lisa: "Dad, I'm on the phone." CC - Operator: "First pay your phone bill."

Personally I like the CC joke better.

Michael EdmonsonArtCfartsy

In article ,

At the conclusion of the "Laddie" episode, the police discover some "medical" marijuana in a man's house. You see an exterior shot of the house as reggae music starts playing (Bob Marley's "Jammin'"), and more police arrive at the house...I think Eddie is carrying a sixpack, and Lou brings a date. You hear Wiggum telling Lou to shut up, because he "loves this song." Around this point the following line appeared in the closed captions but was not spoken:

"Hey, hey, Lou -- don't bogart that, uh, medicine."

As I recall this was excised from the episode when it was re-run.

-Michael

Goopnzaopleopz9Michael Edmonson

This Happens all the time as early as Season 7. Ex: In "King Sized Homer" as Homer discovers he can type "Y" instead of "YES".

Audio: Well, give me a "Y". CC: Well, give me a word.

I also noticed it gets worse and worse each season. As far as I know, I think "Trilogy of Error" seems to have the most mistakes.

TPLaing.Goopnzaopleopz9

Well, "The Parent Rap" also has a large amount of alternate dialogue. And, actually, if you like back in Season 1 (In syndication), there are a large amount of what might be actual captioning errors. For instance, in "The Tell-Tale Head" every time Marge refers to the Sunday School, captioning replaces that with "Church". I think there were also some instances of the Kwik-E-Mart being called the "Quick-E-Mart", or something similar. ------------------------------------- This may or may not be a signature.

ArtCfartsyGoopnzaopleopz9

Found 2 more in the episode where Bart has a play date with Ralph.

When the SImpsons arrive at the Knowledgeum, Bart walks off saying "I'm going to go toss the virtual salad." But the CC reads "I'm going to crawl inside the visible Frenchman!" I can see why they changed THAT one!

And when Bart is reading Homer's police file in Wiggum's closet, the audio is: "Wow! Dad's been in jail 6 times! Aw... Mom's only been twice." But the CC reads, "Aw... and he killed that swan at the zoo."

Makes you think, dunnit? [email]
Ryan W. MeadGoopnzaopleopz9

[email] (Goopnzaopleopz9) wrote in message news:...

That's human error, plain and simple. The closed-captioner misheard "Y" as "word." Errors like this are few and far between, but they do occur. The closed-captioning is only as good as the closed-captioner, as I say.

Benjamin RobinsonArtCfartsy

In alt.tv.simpsons, on the "ALTERNATE DIALOGUE in closed captions" thread, ArtCfartsy wrote:

You're not boring anyone (or at least, you're not boring me), but the "alternate dialog" phenomenon has been going on for some time. If you look through the capsules at <http://www.snpp.com/episodes.html>, quite a few of these discrepancies are noted in the "Goofs" section.

I love it when people post less than 20 lines of text, and then apologize for how "long" their post is.

Benjamin Robinson [email] This message may or may not contain sarcastic content; your burden to decide "Nobody *ever* suspects the butterfly." -- Bart Simpson
ArtCfartsyBenjamin Robinson
Thanks for the link. I just got this TV with CC recently, so the novelty is still pretty new to me. I won't waste time with the little differences, but I'll keep posting the blatant rewrites that I come across. It's kinda' like finding an easter egg on a DVD!
JD44-C84XArtCfartsy
  • ArtCfartsy (Thu, 29 Aug 2002 02:13:21 GMT):

If you have a fairly modern TV, watch the show with SAP on -- "The Simpsons" in Spanish. Now that's a trip.

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Sydney AssbasketJD44-C84X
Does it say, "El Simpsons"?
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  • Sydney Assbasket (Fri, 30 Aug 2002 20:15:20 GMT):

Hmm. I don't think it does anything.

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